OT: New toy for the living room

In anticipation of the move, I realized that the old TV wasnt going to work
for the new smaller living room. I figured I'd get something to put on the
wall and found this in my travels :

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...tId=prod901238

Even the SD stuff that SageTV is recording looks awesome, the HD recordings
are amazing, but the blu ray stuff is almost 3d! I had to test it with
Avatar and ended up watching half the movie again I wasnt too thrilled
after hearing about Glennbo's (and others on the web) experience with
Vizio's tv's, but Sams has a great extended warrantee so if it pukes like
those, at least I'll be covered.

Nice find! And 40 member reviews all give it 5 diamonds... can't be too
awful bad, can it? Either that or the warranty replacement service is
spectacular :-)
--
Sue Morton


"Bob Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:rNCdnTHI0-(E-Mail Removed)...
> In anticipation of the move, I realized that the old TV wasnt going to
> work for the new smaller living room. I figured I'd get something to
> put on the wall and found this in my travels :
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...tId=prod901238
>
> Even the SD stuff that SageTV is recording looks awesome, the HD
> recordings are amazing, but the blu ray stuff is almost 3d! I had to
> test it with Avatar and ended up watching half the movie again I
> wasnt too thrilled after hearing about Glennbo's (and others on the
> web) experience with Vizio's tv's, but Sams has a great extended
> warrantee so if it pukes like those, at least I'll be covered.
>
>
>
>

Well, I can see why they all gave it 5 diamonds! We just watched a few
hours on it and I cant say how much was enjoying the shows and movie or how
much was just sitting in wonderment I really hope that I dont have to use
the warranty!


"Sue Morton" <867-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:i1trco$vdm$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Nice find! And 40 member reviews all give it 5 diamonds... can't be too
> awful bad, can it? Either that or the warranty replacement service is
> spectacular :-)
> --
> Sue Morton

In news:rNCdnTHI0-(E-Mail Removed) the killer robot
"Bob Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

> In anticipation of the move, I realized that the old TV wasnt going to
> work for the new smaller living room. I figured I'd get something to
> put on the wall and found this in my travels :
>
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/pr...tId=prod901238
>
> Even the SD stuff that SageTV is recording looks awesome, the HD
> recordings are amazing, but the blu ray stuff is almost 3d! I had to
> test it with Avatar and ended up watching half the movie again I
> wasnt too thrilled after hearing about Glennbo's (and others on the
> web) experience with Vizio's tv's, but Sams has a great extended
> warrantee so if it pukes like those, at least I'll be covered.

Pretty cool! Hopefully Vizio has gotten it together with the electronics
that drive the screen. That's what blew on mine, and a bunch of other
people's sets that were all manufactured around the same time.

So what's the deal with LED TVs? Are they just using LEDs in place of
the flourescent backlight, and if so does that mean you could potentially
have one single LED go out, causing it to look like a dead pixel?

--
Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email
________ __
/ ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____
/ / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \
/ /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ /
\____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo
Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits
Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms

> Pretty cool! Hopefully Vizio has gotten it together with the electronics
> that drive the screen. That's what blew on mine, and a bunch of other
> people's sets that were all manufactured around the same time.

Yeah, I took your problem to heart when I heard it and became leary of Vizio
after your experience. If Sam's didnt offer such a good warranty I never
would havce got it. I got the 1 year from Vizio, 3 year from Sam's, and
since I'm a plus member they gave me another year. I figure if I get 5
years out of it before anything goes wrong I'll be happy.

> So what's the deal with LED TVs? Are they just using LEDs in place of
> the flourescent backlight, and if so does that mean you could potentially
> have one single LED go out, causing it to look like a dead pixel?

Yeah, that's basically it. As for the question of a dead pixel, couldnt
answer that. At least if it happens within the next 5 years I'm covered
I normally rip my blu-ray's to the WHS and play them through the SageTV
hd-200, but I'm getting alot of stuttering. I'm sure it's something I'm
doing but with the move <hopefully> happening next month, so my main focus
is getting this place organized so that I can get the stuff moved, then this
place in shape to sell over the winter. Going from over 2k sq feet to 1k
after 20 years of "collecting", there is alot of picking and choosing! I
figured I'd just get a blu-ray player to hook up to it until after I get
settled and have time to play with it, so I went to best buy to check them
out. I got sidetracked while watching the LCD-LED's side by side to the
regular LCD's, was like night and day. I guess it helps that I'm going
from a rear projection TV that maxed out at 59hz to a 240hz LED

The killer robot "Bob Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> grabbed the controls of
the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

>> So what's the deal with LED TVs? Are they just using LEDs in place
>> of the flourescent backlight, and if so does that mean you could
>> potentially have one single LED go out, causing it to look like a
>> dead pixel?
>
> Yeah, that's basically it. As for the question of a dead pixel,
> couldnt answer that. At least if it happens within the next 5 years
> I'm covered I normally rip my blu-ray's to the WHS and play them
> through the SageTV hd-200, but I'm getting alot of stuttering. I'm
> sure it's something I'm doing but with the move <hopefully> happening
> next month, so my main focus is getting this place organized so that I
> can get the stuff moved, then this place in shape to sell over the
> winter. Going from over 2k sq feet to 1k after 20 years of
> "collecting", there is alot of picking and choosing! I figured I'd
> just get a blu-ray player to hook up to it until after I get settled
> and have time to play with it, so I went to best buy to check them
> out. I got sidetracked while watching the LCD-LED's side by side to
> the regular LCD's, was like night and day. I guess it helps that I'm
> going from a rear projection TV that maxed out at 59hz to a 240hz LED
>

So if you have a BluRay drive in the computer, can you not just share it on
the network, and then access it directly with something that knows how to
play a BluRay, like PowerDVD? Also, isn't the only difference between 1080
broadcast HDTV and BluRay the fact that broadcast 1080 is interlaced, and
BluRay is progressive? I mean, the actual resolution is identical, but one
draws the odd lines then the even lines, where the other draws the lines in
sequential order. I would suspect that if your set has a fast refresh
rate, then you wouldn't be able to tell much if any difference, but on
slower refresh rates it would be more noticable.

--
Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email
________ __
/ ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____
/ / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \
/ /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ /
\____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo
Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits
Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms

> So if you have a BluRay drive in the computer, can you not just share it
> on
> the network, and then access it directly with something that knows how to
> play a BluRay, like PowerDVD?

Good catch Glennbo! I was thinking that exact same thing last night after
sending the email. SageTV may allow me to just add the drive as one of it's
shared media folders. I boxed up all of the blu-ray's already, so I was
thinking about going and renting one this weekend to see if it works. I can
play the blu-ray's right inside of SageTV so I wont have to use PowerDVD.
If I have it ripped to the server, it shows up in the Video's section so you
just push play.

>Also, isn't the only difference between 1080
> broadcast HDTV and BluRay the fact that broadcast 1080 is interlaced, and
> BluRay is progressive? I mean, the actual resolution is identical, but
> one
> draws the odd lines then the even lines, where the other draws the lines
> in
> sequential order. I would suspect that if your set has a fast refresh
> rate, then you wouldn't be able to tell much if any difference, but on
> slower refresh rates it would be more noticable.

I dont know the specifics, but I definitely see a major difference between
the blu-ray and broadcast TV. Then again in HDTV's defense, I'm comparing
a rerun of two and a half men to Avatar I'll put it through it's paces
once it's all set up in the new house and I can relax and watch some stuff,
not to mention there is almost nothing on to watch until the fall season
starts. I may have to switch to comcast if the tree's get in the way of the
satellite <there are a TON of tree's in the new area>, and I cant get a
staight answer out of anyone about QAM. The best one I got was order it and
try it, and cancel it if it doesnt work. They really locked down a bunch of
channels out here.

In news:(E-Mail Removed) m the killer robot
"Bob Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

>> So if you have a BluRay drive in the computer, can you not just share
>> it on the network, and then access it directly with something that knows
>> how to play a BluRay, like PowerDVD?
>
> Good catch Glennbo! I was thinking that exact same thing last night
> after sending the email. SageTV may allow me to just add the drive as
> one of it's shared media folders. I boxed up all of the blu-ray's
> already, so I was thinking about going and renting one this weekend to
> see if it works. I can play the blu-ray's right inside of SageTV so I
> wont have to use PowerDVD. If I have it ripped to the server, it shows
> up in the Video's section so you just push play.

I would think that if the LAN bandwidth is fast enough to accomodate it
that you should be able to have a "central" BluRay player, and use your
clients to access it directly.

--
Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email
________ __
/ ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____
/ / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \
/ /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ /
\____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo
Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits
Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms

Hey Bob,

Go into SageTV setup, one of the submenus (I forget which one just now,
not at my SageTV server) has the config for the DVD drives.
--
Sue Morton


"Bob Donald" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
>> So if you have a BluRay drive in the computer, can you not just share
>> it on
>> the network, and then access it directly with something that knows
>> how to
>> play a BluRay, like PowerDVD?
>
> Good catch Glennbo! I was thinking that exact same thing last night
> after sending the email. SageTV may allow me to just add the drive as
> one of it's shared media folders. I boxed up all of the blu-ray's
> already, so I was thinking about going and renting one this weekend to
> see if it works. I can play the blu-ray's right inside of SageTV so I
> wont have to use PowerDVD. If I have it ripped to the server, it shows
> up in the Video's section so you just push play.
>
>>Also, isn't the only difference between 1080
>> broadcast HDTV and BluRay the fact that broadcast 1080 is interlaced,
>> and
>> BluRay is progressive? I mean, the actual resolution is identical,
>> but one
>> draws the odd lines then the even lines, where the other draws the
>> lines in
>> sequential order. I would suspect that if your set has a fast
>> refresh
>> rate, then you wouldn't be able to tell much if any difference, but
>> on
>> slower refresh rates it would be more noticable.
>
> I dont know the specifics, but I definitely see a major difference
> between the blu-ray and broadcast TV. Then again in HDTV's defense,
> I'm comparing a rerun of two and a half men to Avatar I'll put it
> through it's paces once it's all set up in the new house and I can
> relax and watch some stuff, not to mention there is almost nothing on
> to watch until the fall season starts. I may have to switch to
> comcast if the tree's get in the way of the satellite <there are a TON
> of tree's in the new area>, and I cant get a staight answer out of
> anyone about QAM. The best one I got was order it and try it, and
> cancel it if it doesnt work. They really locked down a bunch of
> channels out here.
>

The killer robot "Sue Morton" <867-(E-Mail Removed)> grabbed the
controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

> Go into SageTV setup, one of the submenus (I forget which one just now,
> not at my SageTV server) has the config for the DVD drives.

Beyond TV doesn't do DVDs, but I've used Power DVD for eons because I
bought the version that can decode DTS audio. About the only thing I ever
play on my DVD players is music DVDs, and many of them are encoded in DTS.

Inserting a DVD into any of my BTV clients will fire up Power DVD, and
begin playing the disk, but using my Firefly remote, I can also ake Power
DVD load images of DVD on HD, or navigate to DVDs on other machines,
provided they are shared.

--
Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email
________ __
/ ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____
/ / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \
/ /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ /
\____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo
Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits
Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms