A couple of quality 9/11 truth songs/videos are being released at the same time. One is by Martin Noakes entitled "911 Building 7" and is featured on a number of 9/11 documantaries including 911 ripple effect... see Press Release for further details. The other is by Tim Jones who lives in Canada who has produced a superb track entitled: New World Order (Featuring Speak & Spell) ... Click on link for further details. Please support our efforts to bring the truth to the people. Many thanks for your time Martin Noakes
I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, what's more, its wholely inappropriate for alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. It has f*** all to do with 9/11. Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change the world like that. I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what you are talking about...........LL On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:29:38 +0100, "Martin Noakes" <> wrote: >A couple of quality 9/11 truth songs/videos are being released at the same time. One is by Martin Noakes entitled "911 Building 7" and is featured on a number of 9/11 documantaries including 911 ripple effect... see Press Release for further details. > >The other is by Tim Jones who lives in Canada who has produced a superb track entitled: New World Order (Featuring Speak & Spell) ... Click on link for further details. > >Please support our efforts to bring the truth to the people. > >Many thanks for your time > >Martin Noakes
"LL" <> wrote in message news:... >I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they > are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, > what's more, its wholely inappropriate for > alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. > It has f*** all to do with 9/11. > > Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may > have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who > spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their > cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. > > Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing > polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be > doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the > right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea > what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out > but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change > the world like that. > > I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they > were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was > tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin > Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the > history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to > death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what > you are talking about...........LL > > > Well LL, I for one disagree with you. I think the Op is on the very tip of the story. i believe the conspiracy dates back thousands of years and has been foretold down through the ages. I read the papers, watch the news, think back on recent history and look up to the heavens with expectation. Remembering what I have been taught all of my life about the books of Daniel and Revelation. And yes it is also true that during the times I was taught to watch for it would become increasingly unpopular to bring GOD into the discussion. But truth is T.R.U.T.H. right?
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:35:07 -0500, "Six String Stu" <> wrote: > >"LL" <> wrote in message >news:... >>I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they >> are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, >> what's more, its wholely inappropriate for >> alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. >> It has f*** all to do with 9/11. >> >> Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may >> have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who >> spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their >> cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. >> >> Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing >> polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be >> doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the >> right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea >> what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out >> but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change >> the world like that. >> >> I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they >> were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was >> tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin >> Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the >> history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to >> death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what >> you are talking about...........LL >> >> >> >Well LL, I for one disagree with you. I think the Op is on the very tip of >the story. i believe the conspiracy dates back thousands of years and has >been foretold down through the ages. >I read the papers, watch the news, think back on recent history and look up >to the heavens with expectation. Remembering what I have been taught all of >my life about the books of Daniel and Revelation. >And yes it is also true that during the times I was taught to watch for it >would become increasingly unpopular to bring GOD into the discussion. >But truth is T.R.U.T.H. right? Uh... No, it's not. Everything you know is wrong. If you're willing to accept that... maybe truth will alight on your shoulder for a brief second. Ap
> Everything you know is wrong. > > If you're willing to accept that... maybe truth will alight on your > shoulder for a brief second. but even then how can you be sure you will recognise it ? objective is a myth. daz xxx
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:35:07 -0500, "Six String Stu" <> wrote: > >"LL" <> wrote in message >news:... >>I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they >> are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, >> what's more, its wholely inappropriate for >> alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. >> It has f*** all to do with 9/11. >> >> Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may >> have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who >> spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their >> cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. >> >> Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing >> polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be >> doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the >> right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea >> what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out >> but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change >> the world like that. >> >> I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they >> were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was >> tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin >> Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the >> history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to >> death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what >> you are talking about...........LL >> >> >> >Well LL, I for one disagree with you. I think the Op is on the very tip of >the story. i believe the conspiracy dates back thousands of years and has >been foretold down through the ages. >I read the papers, watch the news, think back on recent history and look up >to the heavens with expectation. Remembering what I have been taught all of >my life about the books of Daniel and Revelation. >And yes it is also true that during the times I was taught to watch for it >would become increasingly unpopular to bring GOD into the discussion. >But truth is T.R.U.T.H. right? > Ha.....if God didn't exist then man would have invented him anyway. I suspect that we did....and look what happened as a result.....LL
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:48:35 GMT, (Aphelion) wrote: >On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:35:07 -0500, "Six String Stu" ><> wrote: > >> >>"LL" <> wrote in message >>news:... >>>I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they >>> are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, >>> what's more, its wholely inappropriate for >>> alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. >>> It has f*** all to do with 9/11. >>> >>> Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may >>> have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who >>> spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their >>> cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. >>> >>> Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing >>> polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be >>> doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the >>> right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea >>> what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out >>> but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change >>> the world like that. >>> >>> I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they >>> were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was >>> tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin >>> Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the >>> history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to >>> death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what >>> you are talking about...........LL >>> >>> >>> >>Well LL, I for one disagree with you. I think the Op is on the very tip of >>the story. i believe the conspiracy dates back thousands of years and has >>been foretold down through the ages. >>I read the papers, watch the news, think back on recent history and look up >>to the heavens with expectation. Remembering what I have been taught all of >>my life about the books of Daniel and Revelation. >>And yes it is also true that during the times I was taught to watch for it >>would become increasingly unpopular to bring GOD into the discussion. >>But truth is T.R.U.T.H. right? > >Uh... No, it's not. > >Everything you know is wrong. > >If you're willing to accept that... maybe truth will alight on your >shoulder for a brief second. > > > >Ap Well said Ap....I don't know whether or not you agree with my outburst last night ...I'd had a couple of glasses of wine and I got a bit fired up!! These conspiracy theories do bore me though. Maybe the guy is right...its very dificult to get to the truth with stuff like this but, in any event, he won't win any friends by coming on here and sticking it down our throats. Nor will the last poster with his religious rantings..........LL
"LL" <> wrote in message news:... >I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they > are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, > what's more, its wholely inappropriate for > alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. > It has f*** all to do with 9/11. > > Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may > have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who > spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their > cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. > > Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing > polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be > doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the > right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea > what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out > but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change > the world like that. > > I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they > were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was > tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin > Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the > history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to > death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what > you are talking about...........LL > Maybe Noakes uses Cubase in his home studio. These "Building 7/controlled demolition" conspiracy cultists are a perfect examples of those who busy themselves with needlessly convoluted confabulation BECAUSE the plain ordinary truth of the matter is way too SCARY... and because it suits their AGENDA. This conspiracy theory plays into long-standing right wing paranoid scenarios and dovetails neatly into nasty little anti-Semitic kook kult krap. 3 kids (grown men - I watched them grow up from 10 year olds) from my NYC apartment building died in the WTC attacks. 2 firemen and a carpenter. I'm pretty realistic... and STILL very pissed... about what happened. Bet this clown Noakes doesn't know anyone who died. What does this have to do with Cubase or any other bit of musical tech? Tools are neutral. It's just... interesting.
Soddi, You're correct, I don't know anyone that died... but I know William Rodriguez http://www.william911.com/ who survived, and was the last man out of the twin towers, he supports the song totally... See testimonials www.911building7.co.uk , I have also met and heard first hand testimony from one of the contractors who was involved in powering down the computer systems the week before 9/11 Scott Forbes; he features at 4 mins in the security link (which the port autorities now deny). I also know personally a survivor of the 7/7 bombings in London Daniel Obachike http://www.the4thbomb.com/ who was on the lower deck of the Tavistock square bombing. A few facts (sources provided) about 9/11. http://www.wanttoknow.info/911coverup10pg I also know that the EPA told people that the air was safe to breath (in order to re-open wallstreet!) and the consequence of that is thousands of first responders are now terminally ill: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_giuliani_lies.htm Add to that the security of both the Twin towers and the airports the planes took off from shared the same security company securacom http://video.aol.com/video-detail/9...r-downs-in-the-wtc-just-before-911/2733976414 It's an international requirement that ANY crash has a crash investigation, so on 9/11 there should have been 4 air crash investigations.. There were none! There was an air crash investigation in to all previous hi-jackings etc!! Even if you believe the official version of events it's still a crime scene and none of the protocol was carried out to establish the reason the buildings collapsed. After all if the fire melted the steel then there's very good reason to be concerened about the safety of any similar structure. especially as WTC 7 collapsed (which is the main thread of my song) without being hit by a plane and suffering only minimal damage. Here's a link to a firets responder who witnessed a countdown to the demolition of building 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STbD9XMCOho Shot by a friend of mine. Why is this so important? Because were are now in an unwinnable and more importantly unprovable war on terror. Faceless enemies, could be you, could be me, and our civil liberties have erroded to the point where they no longer protect us! If you want to believe Bush, Bliar & co. be my guest, but; once a liar always a liar and none bigger than the affore mentioned. Martin Noakes P.S I am a Cubase 4 user, and regardless of what some people may think believe that songwriting is a valid and historical way of spreading a message. Because we are currently waging war on two countries as a direct result of 9/11 and there's plans to attack Iran & others imminently. See the PNAC document (rebuilding americas defences) http://www.newamericancentury.org/defensenationalsecurity.htm The response to 9/11 was pre-scripted a year before 9/11 in this document. Here's one statement: "SODDI" <> wrote in message news:... > > "LL" <> wrote in message > news:... >>I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they >> are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, >> what's more, its wholely inappropriate for >> alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. >> It has f*** all to do with 9/11. >> >> Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may >> have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who >> spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their >> cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. >> >> Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing >> polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be >> doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the >> right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea >> what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out >> but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change >> the world like that. >> >> I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they >> were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was >> tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin >> Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the >> history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to >> death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what >> you are talking about...........LL >> > > Maybe Noakes uses Cubase in his home studio. > > These "Building 7/controlled demolition" conspiracy cultists are a perfect > examples of those who busy themselves with needlessly convoluted > confabulation BECAUSE the plain ordinary truth of the matter is way too > SCARY... and because it suits their AGENDA. > > This conspiracy theory plays into long-standing right wing paranoid > scenarios and dovetails neatly into nasty little anti-Semitic kook kult > krap. > > 3 kids (grown men - I watched them grow up from 10 year olds) from my NYC > apartment building died in the WTC attacks. 2 firemen and a carpenter. I'm > pretty realistic... and STILL very pissed... about what happened. > > Bet this clown Noakes doesn't know anyone who died. > > What does this have to do with Cubase or any other bit of musical tech? > Tools are neutral. > > It's just... interesting. >
(top-poasting deserves top-poasting in return) See... links to kook konspiracy kulture where misinterpretations, allegations, half-truths, outright lies and factoids meld into FACT! by the magic of the GRAND UNIFIED KOOK THEORY. Wait 'til this kook konspiracy klown tells us the old canard that all Jews were warned to stay away from the WTC that day and that Israelis were dancing on the roofs in Hoboken while watching the buildings go down. FACTS! (not) These nuts are trying to be POLITE anti-Semites. Hey, maybe even Prussian Blue uses Cubase. Meanwhile, this IS a Cubase software discussion group, it's real NICE that Noakes used Cubase to get his VITAL message out there, but I wouldn't listen to that right-wing kook konspiracy krap on a dare. PLONK! We gots to axe WHO IS RUNNING REAKOR 5.1 In Cubase 4! "Martin Noakes" <> wrote KOOK http://www.william911.com/ MAJOR LEAGUE KOOK www.911building7.co.uk NOT 9/11 http://www.the4thbomb.com/ KOOK http://www.wanttoknow.info/911coverup10pg ACTUTALLY SHAMEFUL TRUTH, NOT ATTACK-RELATED http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_giuliani_lies.htm KOOK http://video.aol.com/video-detail/9...r-downs-in-the-wtc-just-before-911/2733976414 > "SODDI" <> wrote in message > news:... >> >> "LL" <> wrote in message >> news:... >>>I was annoyed by last time around...ok the songs are what they >>> are...but its political. Its all very much a matter of opinion and, >>> what's more, its wholely inappropriate for >>> alternative.steinberg.cubase which is a music software orientated ng. >>> It has f*** all to do with 9/11. >>> >>> Ok..you keep on provoking discussion so lets go...Your theories may >>> have some foundation...but you could also be totally wrong. People who >>> spout off in this way usually achieve absolutely nothing for their >>> cause and often end up making total idiots of themselves. Wise up. >>> >>> Back in the early 70's I used to listen to rock bands singing >>> polution/solution lyrics and telling us what our politicians should be >>> doing about Vietnam etc. Like you, their hearts were very much in the >>> right place and they had the 'evidence'.. but they had no real idea >>> what they were talking about. I give you full credit for speaking out >>> but you are just as ill-informed as they were. You aint gonna change >>> the world like that. >>> >>> I'm supspicious about Diana and Dodi's death..do you know who they >>> were? Do you have any concept of a world beyond the US of A? 9/11 was >>> tragic. I absolutely love NYC..I hated what happened to the Twin >>> Towers and I mourn those who died. It was, however, a pin-prick in the >>> history of human suffering. Get over it, and stop boring us all to >>> death with this meaningless drivel You havn't got a f***ing clue what >>> you are talking about...........LL >>> >> >> Maybe Noakes uses Cubase in his home studio. >> >> These "Building 7/controlled demolition" conspiracy cultists are a >> perfect >> examples of those who busy themselves with needlessly convoluted >> confabulation BECAUSE the plain ordinary truth of the matter is way too >> SCARY... and because it suits their AGENDA. >> >> This conspiracy theory plays into long-standing right wing paranoid >> scenarios and dovetails neatly into nasty little anti-Semitic kook kult >> krap. >> >> 3 kids (grown men - I watched them grow up from 10 year olds) from my NYC >> apartment building died in the WTC attacks. 2 firemen and a carpenter. >> I'm >> pretty realistic... and STILL very pissed... about what happened. >> >> Bet this clown Noakes doesn't know anyone who died. >> >> What does this have to do with Cubase or any other bit of musical tech? >> Tools are neutral. >> >> It's just... interesting. >> > > >
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:14:40 +0100, "Martin Noakes" <> wrote: >Soddi, > >You're correct, I don't know anyone that died... but I know William >Rodriguez http://www.william911.com/ who survived, and was the last man out >of the twin towers, he supports the song totally... See testimonials >www.911building7.co.uk , I have also met and heard first hand testimony from >one of the contractors who was involved in powering down the computer >systems the week before 9/11 Scott Forbes; he features at 4 mins in the >security link (which the port autorities now deny). > >I also know personally a survivor of the 7/7 bombings in London Daniel >Obachike http://www.the4thbomb.com/ who was on the lower deck of the >Tavistock square bombing. > >A few facts (sources provided) about 9/11. >http://www.wanttoknow.info/911coverup10pg > >I also know that the EPA told people that the air was safe to breath (in >order to re-open wallstreet!) and the consequence of that is thousands of >first responders are now terminally ill: >http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/031007_giuliani_lies.htm > >Add to that the security of both the Twin towers and the airports the planes >took off from shared the same security company securacom >http://video.aol.com/video-detail/9...r-downs-in-the-wtc-just-before-911/2733976414 > >It's an international requirement that ANY crash has a crash investigation, >so on 9/11 there should have been 4 air crash investigations.. There were >none! There was an air crash investigation in to all previous hi-jackings >etc!! > >Even if you believe the official version of events it's still a crime scene >and none of the protocol was carried out to establish the reason the >buildings collapsed. After all if the fire melted the steel then there's >very good reason to be concerened about the safety of any similar structure. >especially as WTC 7 collapsed (which is the main thread of my song) without >being hit by a plane and suffering only minimal damage. > >Here's a link to a firets responder who witnessed a countdown to the >demolition of building 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STbD9XMCOho Shot by >a friend of mine. > >Why is this so important? Because were are now in an unwinnable and more >importantly unprovable war on terror. Faceless enemies, could be you, could >be me, and our civil liberties have erroded to the point where they no >longer protect us! > >If you want to believe Bush, Bliar & co. be my guest, but; once a liar >always a liar and none bigger than the affore mentioned. > >Martin Noakes > >P.S I am a Cubase 4 user, and regardless of what some people may think >believe that songwriting is a valid and historical way of spreading a >message. > > >Because we are currently waging war on two countries as a direct result of >9/11 and there's plans to attack Iran & others imminently. See the PNAC >document (rebuilding americas defences) >http://www.newamericancentury.org/defensenationalsecurity.htm The response >to 9/11 was pre-scripted a year before 9/11 in this document. Here's one >statement: > Ok you have your 'evidence'...or you've convinced yourself that you have. You may be right...but that is by no means certain. But where is all this going? You can't change what happened and, for all your spouting off and your sad songs, you have no influence whatever...no more than me or any other guys looking in on this. You aint gonna bring anyone back. You won't influence the decisions of your lousy president...or the Uk's current Prime Minister (not Mr Blair anymore thank god)) There's alot of dubious goings on throughout the world and there always will be. I don't like it any more than you do...but I have a life to live and I'm not going to spend it fighting hopeless causes. We pass this way but once..life is a lottery and, if we are lucky and we have the chance, we should enjoy it to the full while we are here. Do yourself a favour Martin and drop it. Or at least take it somewhere else..................LL
"Martin Noakes" <> wrote in message news:... > Soddi, > You're correct, I don't know anyone that died... but I know William > Rodriguez http://www.william911.com/ who survived, and was the last man out > of the twin towers, he supports the song totally... See testimonials > www.911building7.co.uk , I have also met and heard first hand testimony from > one of the contractors who was involved in powering down the computer > systems the week before 9/11 Scott Forbes; he features at 4 mins in the > security link (which the port autorities now deny). rodriguez just comes over as an opportunist imho, "last man out" - fine he had a brush with death in one of the most infamous acts of terrorism, some people would merely be glad to be alive and get on with their lives. what doe he sell, peddle, offer? oh look, there's a "store" at his web site. surprise surprise, hey we all got to make a buck . . . . LOL! what's he up to no, running as a prospective political candidate? --
