Hi, my band selected me to be our soundengenier, So I did my best, but I am not really satisfied. A guy at de.rec.musik.machen recommended your newsgroup to me. He told me that this will be a good place to ask for some hints. Ok I am an absolut beginner. You can find the demo-songs at www.meprivate.de/audio Maybe somebody has a little time to listen to one or two songs. I would be really grateful for your support. Greets, Dominik.
All of the elements are obviously there. For starters, I would drop the drums a little back in the mixes and ease off on the compression. The overall mix could also use a little ambience and stereo spread; it's a little too dry and sterile. I would experiment with some type of subtle room reverb on a bus. And if you haven't already, listen to "First Band on the Moon" by the Cardigans. That type of sound/mix would definitely suit your band. "nick" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > my band selected me to be our soundengenier, So I did my best, but I > am not really satisfied. A guy at de.rec.musik.machen recommended your > newsgroup to me. He told me that this will be a good place to ask for > some hints. > > Ok I am an absolut beginner. > > You can find the demo-songs at www.meprivate.de/audio > > Maybe somebody has a little time to listen to one or two songs. > I would be really grateful for your support. > > Greets, Dominik.
Dominik, First let me say that I think you have some excellent material to start with. The songs and performances are very good, however I think advances can be made in the mix. It is very difficult to give advice over email but one source of the problem, as noted in an earlier post, is in the spread (or in this case the lack of spatial arrangement.) Try to "see" your soundstage as a 3D model with horizontal (panning), Vertical (frequency) and Depth (level/ambience). There is no easy way to get better at this other than to listen and watch others and try to emulate until you get a feel for it. Learn to use eq to carve out some space. There is an excellent book on the basics of mixing by David Gibson entitled "The Art of Mixing." It is horribly expensive for a paperback and everyone who I have recommended it to has come back and told me that they already knew all that stuff. But their mixes became incredibly better.....hmmm. Good luck, Dan "nick" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > my band selected me to be our soundengenier, So I did my best, but I > am not really satisfied. A guy at de.rec.musik.machen recommended your > newsgroup to me. He told me that this will be a good place to ask for > some hints. > > Ok I am an absolut beginner. > > You can find the demo-songs at www.meprivate.de/audio > > Maybe somebody has a little time to listen to one or two songs. > I would be really grateful for your support. > > Greets, Dominik.
"StepD" <> so articulated news:4LJMb.37797$sv6.110437@attbi_s52: > The > overall mix could also use a little ambience and stereo spread; it's a > little too dry and sterile. I would experiment with some type of > subtle room reverb on a bus. And here's a great tutorial on how to do this. Credit: Hans Van Even. I would link you to the site, but it's not working right. --Dave my suggestion would be to use at least three AUX's A first one with a delay (that matches the rhythm of your song), second one a Room Reverb, and third one a Hall Reverb (time and preset Hall, Plate, etc depends on the song you use). This is ofcoarse my own way of working, and maybe it's not the best way, but at least it worked out to be good for my work. Be sure you set all effets at 100% wet in the AUX's, each track will send the needed bleeding into each AUX. I also like to send a little part of the AUX1 delay signal into the third hall reverb, and a little part of the AUX2 room reverb into the AUX3 third hall reverb. You can also put a little chorus after the reverb in AUX3 ... Now why so much tools ? The Room, can be usefull, especially on very dry signals (like drum samples, etc) to give them that studio room feel, and the longer reverb (Hall, Plate, etc) add more space into the instruments. The delay is there to add some beatifull tails to solo instruments or voices, or even to make the sustain of those and other instruments longer. The right combination of those will really make some parts live and give them a tastfull sustain you can't make with just a Reverb, but remember it has to be in the rhythm of the song. As for the send % I send to all these AUX, it all depends of the instruments. For example, on Bass parts, or bass drums, I will use just a little bit of room reverb, but chances are small i'll add hall sounds etc, you will loose all your definition. On guitars solos or voices however, I'll use more. I use very little delay signal on the solo or voices, just enough to get that sustain kind of effect. There is a good way to see you use too much Reverb or effect. In most cases if you hear the effects in the mix, chances are they are already too loud, too much in the foreground. I suggest you start sending a very little % of reverb on each track (40%-20% send on the tracks depending on the instruments you use), until you can hear the reverb, and then cut of some % so the focus isn't on the effects but still on the instruments. It's difficult to explain in a mail how to use a Reverb, and I'm always learning each day, but i hope this info helps a little bit best, Hans
