Anyone sell string samples that sound this good?

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  2. Mark & Mary Ann Weiss Guest

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    "Doc" <> wrote in message
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    > Is there a string sample library that would let you create big, airy
    > strings like this? Preferably unlooped and in .wav format since I use
    > Soundfonts. Or something already in the Soundfont format.
    >
    > http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/string_example/nice_strings.mp3
    >
    >
    > Thanks



    I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O with
    the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic 'sawing'
    of many strings, nothing difficult here.


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  3. Doc Guest

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    On Feb 14, 11:29 pm, "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss"
    <> wrote:
    > "Doc" <> wrote in message
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    > news:...
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    > > Is there a string sample library that would let you create big, airy
    > > strings like this? Preferably unlooped and in .wav format since I use
    > > Soundfonts. Or something already in the Soundfont format.

    >
    > >http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/string_example/nice_strings.mp3

    >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O with
    > the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    > articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic 'sawing'
    > of many strings, nothing difficult here.


    Can you post an example? In case it wasn't clear, the sample I posted
    is a recording of live strings in a Nashville studio.
  4. Mark & Mary Ann Weiss Guest

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    > > I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O
    with
    > > the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    > > articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic

    'sawing'
    > > of many strings, nothing difficult here.

    >
    > Can you post an example? In case it wasn't clear, the sample I posted
    > is a recording of live strings in a Nashville studio.
    >


    Sure. Here's one example of a full orchestral piece that I arranged on the
    Kurzweil.

    http://www.dv-clips.com/MusicDemo08.ram

    Here's an arrangement I did of the end of a classical piece. This uses ROM
    strings, but sampled organ sounds:

    http://www.dv-clips.com/[KurzweilK2600RSPC2R-O]Saint-saensOrganSymphonyNr3[m
    oltoallegro].m3u



    And, although more dominant on woodwinds, a demo from Kurzweil's own
    website:

    ftp://ftp.kurzweilmusicsystems.com/pub/Kurzweil/Audio_Demos/MP3/Orchestral_R
    OM/Chase.mp3



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  5. Afoklala Guest

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    Op 14 Feb 2007 22:44:03 -0800 schreef Doc:

    > On Feb 14, 11:29 pm, "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss"
    > <> wrote:
    >> "Doc" <> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:...
    >>
    >>> Is there a string sample library that would let you create big, airy
    >>> strings like this? Preferably unlooped and in .wav format since I use
    >>> Soundfonts. Or something already in the Soundfont format.

    >>
    >>>http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/string_example/nice_strings.mp3

    >>
    >>> Thanks

    >>
    >> I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O with
    >> the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    >> articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic 'sawing'
    >> of many strings, nothing difficult here.

    >
    > Can you post an example? In case it wasn't clear, the sample I posted
    > is a recording of live strings in a Nashville studio.


    AFAIK, no sample bank can beat live strings (yet). But several come close.
    Have you tried www.hammersound.net? It has loads of soundfonts, many of
    them excellent - although, as I said, no sample can beat the real thing.
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    On 15 Feb, 09:20, Afoklala <> wrote:
    > Op 14 Feb 2007 22:44:03 -0800 schreef Doc:
    > > On Feb 14, 11:29 pm, "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss"
    > > <> wrote:
    > >> "Doc" <> wrote in message

    >
    > >>news:...

    >
    > >>> Is there a string sample library that would let you create big, airy
    > >>> strings like this? Preferably unlooped and in .wav format since I use
    > >>> Soundfonts. Or something already in the Soundfont format.

    >
    > >>>http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/string_example/nice_strings.mp3

    >
    > >>> Thanks

    >
    > >> I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O with
    > >> the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    > >> articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic 'sawing'
    > >> of many strings, nothing difficult here.

    >
    > > Can you post an example? In case it wasn't clear, the sample I posted
    > > is a recording of live strings in a Nashville studio.

    >
    > AFAIK, no sample bank can beat live strings (yet). But several come close.
    > Have you triedwww.hammersound.net?It has loads of soundfonts, many of
    > them excellent - although, as I said, no sample can beat the real thing.


    There's also a mixed sampled/synthesis approach that, judging from the
    samples, show real promise:

    http://synful.com/

    Ciao
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    On Feb 14, 11:29 pm, "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss"
    <> wrote:
    > "Doc" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:...
    >
    > > Is there a string sample library that would let you create big, airy
    > > strings like this? Preferably unlooped and in .wav format since I use
    > > Soundfonts. Or something already in the Soundfont format.

    >
    > >http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/string_example/nice_strings.mp3

    >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > I get sound like that every day out of my Kurzweil K2600RS and PC2R/O with
    > the internal ROM samples. I was expecting to hear very complex
    > articulations, but the sample linked above is very simple and basic 'sawing'
    > of many strings, nothing difficult here.



    I listened to the samples, yours and from the Kurzweil site. I
    appreciate your taking the time and I applaud your fine orchestration
    skills. While they sound decent, I can't say any of these examples
    really sound a lot like the big, warm, airy strings in the sample I
    posted.
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    "Emiliano Grilli" <> wrote in message
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    > There's also a mixed sampled/synthesis approach that, judging from the
    > samples, show real promise:
    >
    > http://synful.com/


    He beat me to it.
  9. Mark & Mary Ann Weiss Guest

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    > I listened to the samples, yours and from the Kurzweil site. I
    > appreciate your taking the time and I applaud your fine orchestration
    > skills. While they sound decent, I can't say any of these examples
    > really sound a lot like the big, warm, airy strings in the sample I
    > posted.
    >
    >


    That was an old arrangement from 3 years ago and I thought it was a bit
    lacking too. I re-mixed it a bit, got rid of some pitch bends and put in
    real trills where trills were called for, and changed the choice of string
    section ROM samples. I think this version sounds better:

    http://www.dv-clips.com/[KurzweilK2600RSPC2R-O]Nausicaa's_Theme.m3u


    The Saint-saens' Organ Symphony is an unfinished work and actually is
    missing whole sections of strings. When I finish that up, I'll post a new
    version on my web site that should sound much better.

    They actually sound best when I'm playing them from the keyboard and getting
    the 'feedback' of how the strings respond to adjust my playing. But since I
    can't play more than one string section at a time, it's time-consuming to
    compose something for the sake of this discussion. :)


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    On Feb 14, 2:58 pm, "Doc" <> wrote:
    > Soundfonts.


    Nuff said

    Soundfonts stink

    I hate emulations, soundfonts, and sample playback MIDI synths.

    I request that readers please read this message from began to end
    until they fully understand it. It is entirely relevant to this
    thread.

    On the Creative website -- forums.creative.com -- I am known as
    "CMS220"

    In the above link, is where I take revenge against the following:

    1. Creative Technology for no longer making or upgrading Creative
    Music Synth [220]

    2. Customers who like -- or don't mind -- sample playback MIDI synths,
    emulations, and soundfonts

    3. Customers who dislike -- or don't care for - Creative Music Synth
    [220]

    On the Creative Technology site, I first asked my questions politely
    but no one answered me. I then got frustrated and vented all my anger.
    Now those jerks know how I feel.

    I lost control of my temper and used very bad words. As a result, any
    computer with my home IP address cannot access the Creative forums.
    Also, if I login under the name "CMS220" in any part of the world, the
    Creative site will automatically ban access to its forums from that
    network. They've banned access to the forums from three places already
    because I logged in under CMS220. They've got some auto-ban type of
    feature, it seems.

    It started off like this. I asked in the Creative Technology
    http://forums.creative.com as politely as I could. I waited a couple
    of weeks. No response. I asked again as politely as I could, waited
    another few weeks. Again no answers. I tried on the third and last
    time as politely as I could. AGAIN, no answers!!!

    I then got impatient and aggressive. I started venting my anger in
    those forums. I used bad words. As a result, they've permanently
    banned my IP and I can no longer access their forums. What a buncha
    jerks. Yes, I did get carried away with the foul language but hey, can
    ya blame me?

    So I can no longer sign-in under CMS220. I got a new username "SB16-
    ISA-FM" and logged in from another network outside my house. I started
    venting my anger again using colorful language. One of the Creative
    Technology companymen then sent me a warning note, in which he/she/it
    threatened to contact my ISP and shut-down my internet connection.
    What those fools don't realize is that I can log in under any name
    from any network that I am given access to. It doesn't have to be from
    my house.

    Maybe if Creative Technology weren't made up of such jerks, then I
    wouldn't have started spamming their forums in the 1st place. So its
    not my fault.

    I would like a real Creative Music Synth [220]. Doesn't have to be in
    a sound card. It could be a keyboard, a MIDI box or in any other
    form.

    Sadly, its not gonna happen because the mechanism by which Creative
    Music Synth [220] is kept classified as top-secret by Creative
    Technology Ltd. CMS220 is no longer made yet the sick @$$ company
    still keeps the working of CMS220 a secret.

    Creative Technology is a stubborn piece of crap. F--k those stingy
    secretive bastards.

    I hate sick sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts.

    I just wish the audio communities would revert back to real, non-
    emulated SB16 FM synthesis and upgrade from there.

    FM emulation [or any audio emulation for that matter] is sample
    playback. Sample playback synth = human kakaa

    SB Live stinks like human kakaa. It has no real music synthesis. Its
    all kakaa-like emulation.

    SB16 PCI has the disadvantages of SB16 ISA [e.g. limitation to 16-bit
    resolution] without the advantages [e.g. *real* FM synthesis]. All
    SB16 PCIs should be burned in oxyacetylene flames.

    AFAIK, some PCI cards contain something called 'Yamaha FM synth'. I
    hate it though because it is emulation. The Avance sound card has
    'Avance FM synth', but its also a real stinker as it isn't a real
    synth. The evil PCI loves to inflict pain on other types of slot --
    ISA being the unfortunate victim. PCI cards don't contain real FM
    synths.

    Anything kind of 'OPL' a PCI would have, would be emulation. The only
    'OPL' any PCI cards have is OPL emulation. Emulation stinks like human
    diarrhea kakaa foam. I don't understand why a PCI card cannot contain
    a real FM synth like Creative Music Synth [220]. Is there a technical
    barrier to this?

    I can easily tell the difference between the freshness, brightness,
    warmth, and liveliness of a *real* synth from the stale, cacophonous
    -- or rather KAKAA-FOAMous -- fart of emulation.

    Creative Music Synth [220] = SB16 ISA's FM synth = my favorite MIDI
    synth.

    I don't care for other MIDI synths.

    Creative Music Synth [220] is:

    1. Real

    and

    2. Digital

    and

    3. Hardware

    and

    4. Real-time

    All other FM synths are okay. Wavetables are also good. But I don't
    care for them.

    Here are my ratings for *soundcard* MIDI synths in the order from best
    to worst:
    1. Creative Music Synth [220]
    2. All digital hardware FM synths other than Creative Music Synth
    [220]
    3. Wavetables, non-FM digital synths, analog [non-digital] synths
    4. Sample playback synths

    Sample playback synths are the worst.

    Sample playback synths STEEEENKS!!!!

    Sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts are the worst
    audio equipment ever. They are stinky, tickly, itchy, creepy,
    irritating, farty, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying.

    I like the audio quality of Creative Music Synth [220]. It sounds so
    warm, fresh, bright, rejuvenating, lively and effervescent.

    The only thing about Creative Technology that I like is their Creative
    Music Synth [220]. Other than that, they are a piece of kakaa.

    Creative Technology is one f--king piece of crap that provides sh--ty
    customer service. Their tech support is so limited.

    Creative Technology used to be such a great company 13 years ago. Now
    there are nothing but stinky-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-humans.

    I've asked them about Creative Music Synth [220] -- through a variety
    of means, including but not limited to phone, fax, and their online
    tech support -- only to be totally-ignored. I asked them about this
    for the past 5 years. Never got a decent answer. In addition, most of
    their online tech support is pre-written garbage.

    Creative Technology also uses such f--ked up sickening disgusting
    sample playback synths in their PCI cards.

    I wish that a gang of persons who support Creative Music Synth [220]
    would attack Creative Technology and force them to make hardware
    versions of Creative Music Synth [220] -- in PCI cards that are
    compatible with PCI slots and Windows XP -- upgraded from 16-bit to 32-
    bit and from 44.1 KHz to 192 KHz. And from there, keep on upgrading!
    When XP and PCI are obsolete then Creative Technology should be forced
    to make even newer hardware versions of CMS220 -- with even wider bit-
    resolutions and higher sample-rates -- that are compatible with the
    newer hardwares and softwares that will exist in that future time.

    If Creative Technology refuses, I hope the CMS220-advocating gang ties
    up the people who make up that company and torturously forces them to
    repeatedly listen to sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
    soundfonts until those Creative personnel are annoyed with burning
    headaches and are deathly desperate for an escape. Only then will the
    people of Creative Technology do the right thing -- make upgraded
    versions of Creative Music Synth [220].

    A rich spoiled-rotten company like Creative deserves to be heinously
    hijacked and forced to do their duties.

    The least Creative Technology Ltd could do is put a *real* 32-bit, 192
    kHz, version of Creative Music Synth [220] in a PCI card. But
    noooooooooooooooooooooo! They are too f--king lazy.

    Its not just Creative Technology that's responsible. Its also the
    fault of self-destructive customers who don't mind paying $$$$$$$$$$$$$
    $$$$$$ for those crappy sample playback synths. F--k those customers
    as well. Masochistic perverts! I don't care if those customers destroy
    themselves. Though, I sure as f--k don't want them destroying me! Such
    customers should eat their own stinky diarrhea kakaa foam. If you feed
    a scum, then you're just as filthy as that scum and I sincerely hope
    you suffer just as much.

    I feel like torching the chips of sample playback synths with
    oxyacetylene flames to distort their audio output.

    Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite MIDI synth.

    Its those sample playback synths that are crap.

    Sadly most MIDI magazines advertise the kakaa-stinky sample playback
    as a good thing often referring to them as 'wavetables'. These sick
    marketers call sample playback synthesis 'realistic sounding'.

    Sample playbacks synths are nothing more than the sound of a stinky
    fart emitted from a human colon.

    I've been looking hard for true FM synths. No luck. Most PCI cards
    have OPL emulation. I hate FM emulation. FM emulation -- much like any
    sample playback synthesis -- is to the ear what human kakaa is to the
    nose.

    I want *real* FM synthesis not some stinky trashy out-of-a-human-
    behind emulation.

    Those stinky-f==king marketers who refer to sample playback synthesis
    as 'wavetables' deserve to be thrown into the sewer and made to eat
    their own crap.

    There is a world of different between sample playback synthesis and
    wavetable synthesis.

    If you still believe the marketer-induced myth that wavetable
    synthesis and sample playback synthesis are the same thing, then
    please educate yourself with the hardcore scientific facts presented
    on the following link:

    http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Wavetable-101.pdf

    Wavetable synthesis is so much better than any kakaa-spitting sample
    playback synth but not nearly as heavenly as *true* FM synthesis. Of
    all the *true* FM synths, Creative Music Synth [220] is my favorite.

    If a synth is *not*:

    1. *Real*

    AND

    2. *Digital*

    AND

    3. *Real-time*

    AND

    4. *Hardware*

    then it,
    STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Here is what I would like to do. I would like to make some replicable
    electronic nanobots that will search for sample playback MIDI synths,
    emulations, and soundfonts in any part of the world and attach to the
    digital chips of sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
    soundfonts. These nanobots should contain magnetic receivers that will
    extract any random environmental magnetic audio signals 2 kHz and 50
    kHz [excluding spikes, square-waves, white noise, brown noise, pink
    noise and bass sounds]. The nanobots then amplify those signals to the
    point where they would significantly interfere with -- and cause
    inductive crosstalk in -- the audio signals in the digital electronic
    chips of the sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and soundfonts.
    This will cause sample playback MIDI synths, emulations, and
    soundfonts to be full of annoying - and perhaps even frightening --
    auditory disruptions from environmental magnetic interference.

    That way all companies will be forced to make *real* synths and the
    listeners will be forced to adapt to the excellent audio quality of
    *real* synths. For those who miss their stinky human kakaa foam of
    sample playback synths, well, f--k them!

    I try playing Creative Music Synth [220], through my so called
    'karaoke voice canceller' -- which inverts the phase of one stereo
    channel [right or left] and then combines it the other channel --
    which results in anything identical in both the left and right
    channels being removed. I get a mono of what was different in the left
    and right channels.

    When I play Creative Music Synth [220] audio through the voice-
    canceller, it sounds more treble, sharper, brighter, warmer, and
    crisper than when I don't use the voice canceller.

    Any understanding, cooperation, and assistance is greatly
    appreciated.


    Thanks,

    Radium
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    Radium wrote:

    > Nuff said
    >


    Cross dressing removed.
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    "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" wrote in message

    >I found an interesting classical performance on YouTube, done on a Kurzweil
    > PC1E. Pretty impressive for a single performer, in realtime:
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MpI0zokIaM



    Hi Mark and Mary,

    At the beginning of the video the keyboard front says PC1se but the keyboard
    used in the performance looks identical to my K2500 and not at all like the
    PC1se. Wats up wid dat? My Kurzweil K2500 was the first one to hit the U.S.
    when they came out. I had been waiting for over a year and pulled some
    strings to get it (no pun intended).

    Of course, I am reminded not to buy anything first because I returned the
    first one,...dead on arrival and the second one Kurzweil was nice enough to
    send someone out to my studio twice to fix it free. He replaced the floppy
    drive and then the motherboard with a 386 processor I think. I am using this
    keyboard now only as a controller for Gigastudio.

    By the way,... I liked your performance last week especially your updated
    version.
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    More Classical on a K2600

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlRcK3cJ4A&mode=related&search=

    Well not that classical!
    Max Arwood

    "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss" <> wrote in message
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    >I found an interesting classical performance on YouTube, done on a Kurzweil
    > PC1E. Pretty impressive for a single performer, in realtime:
    >
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MpI0zokIaM
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    >
    > Take care,
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    >
    > Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
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    "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message
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    > More Classical on a K2600
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdlRcK3cJ4A&mode=related&search=
    > Well not that classical!
    > Max Arwood


    "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message
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    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgZhiYff7nM&mode=related&search=



    Hi Max,

    Hope this posts finds you well!

    Jordan Rudess......great performance.

    He did the training video that came with my Kurzweil K2500 over 11 years
    ago.

    I like his current look. Bald is beautiful!!! ()

    Oh, and I am also jealous of Poly's synth collection and he can play.
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    On Feb 24, 9:15 pm, "Here In Oregon" <> wrote:

    > Oh, and I am also jealous of Poly's synth collection and he can play.


    Speaking of polysynth pads. Creative Music Synth [220] gives the best
    polysynth pad sounds.

    Soundfonts, OTOH, stink like the thick-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-
    who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-milk-chocolate-and-rotten-
    lentils

    F--- that s---

    F--- soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.

    Soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths = stinky-thick-
    diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-
    milk-chocolate-and-rotten-lentils
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    Hello,... earth to Radium.

    I was talking about Polymod a humanoid and his collection of the finest
    analog synths that I have seen to date for one person. He is also a fine
    musician.



    "Radium" <> wrote in message
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    > On Feb 24, 9:15 pm, "Here In Oregon" <> wrote:
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    >> Oh, and I am also jealous of Poly's synth collection and he can play.

    >
    > Speaking of polysynth pads. Creative Music Synth [220] gives the best
    > polysynth pad sounds.
    >
    > Soundfonts, OTOH, stink like the thick-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-
    > who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-milk-chocolate-and-rotten-
    > lentils
    >
    > F--- that s---
    >
    > F--- soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.
    >
    > Soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths = stinky-thick-
    > diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-
    > milk-chocolate-and-rotten-lentils
    >
  18. Michael Guest

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    Were you *born* that stupid?

    I mean... were you a perfect moron when your dad came in your mom's ass, or
    has achieving such astonishing success taken you a lifetime of dedication,
    training and practice?


    Radium wrote:

    > On Feb 24, 9:15 pm, "Here In Oregon" <> wrote:
    >
    >> Oh, and I am also jealous of Poly's synth collection and he can play.

    >
    > Speaking of polysynth pads. Creative Music Synth [220] gives the best
    > polysynth pad sounds.
    >
    > Soundfonts, OTOH, stink like the thick-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-
    > who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-milk-chocolate-and-rotten-
    > lentils
    >
    > F--- that s---
    >
    > F--- soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.
    >
    > Soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths = stinky-thick-
    > diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-
    > milk-chocolate-and-rotten-lentils
  19. Jack Guest

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    On 2/25/07 2:18 AM, in article
    , "Radium"
    <> wrote:

    > On Feb 24, 9:15 pm, "Here In Oregon" <> wrote:
    >
    >> Oh, and I am also jealous of Poly's synth collection and he can play.

    >
    > Speaking of polysynth pads. Creative Music Synth [220] gives the best
    > polysynth pad sounds.
    >
    > Soundfonts, OTOH, stink like the thick-diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-
    > who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-milk-chocolate-and-rotten-
    > lentils
    >
    > F--- that s---
    >
    > F--- soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths.
    >
    > Soundfonts, emulations, and sample playback MIDI synths = stinky-thick-
    > diarrhea-kakaa-foam-of-human-who-eats-stale-cheddar-cheese-and-sticky-
    > milk-chocolate-and-rotten-lentils
    >

    Radium:
    I've read some of your posts about the CMS software and how you put down
    sample collections, and how they use samples from cheap instruments, yadda
    yadda yadda. Got new for you, if you'd spend a fraction of whatever brain
    cells you have left, investigate the East/West Quantum Leap Orchestral
    sample collections over at the soundsonline website. High quality symphony
    orchestra recorded at a high quality hall (IIRC it's Seattle Symphony at
    Benaroya Hall). Definitely not cheap instruments, hall, or people involved.
    I have the Gold Pro XP collection (the middle of the three collections) and
    must it has some damn fine material. Granted, you have to do some work and
    know your orchestration, but if you want to REALLY make good music, it beats
    anything hands down. They have some awesome demos available for download -
    get them and listen. THEN, you will have a basis for saying what you say.
    --
    de N2MPU Jack
    Modeling the NYC/NYNH&H in HO and CP Rail/D&H in N
    Proud NRA Life Member
  20. Radium Guest

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    On Feb 26, 8:51 am, Jack <> wrote:
    > Radium:
    > I've read some of your posts about the CMS software


    CMS is not software. CMS is a hardware digital FM synth.

    F--- software synths.
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