Can you recommend a keyboard for me?

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  1. Guest Guest

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    Hello all,

    I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like a
    hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does any
    kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    budget is less than $500.

    can you give me any recommendations?

    thanks,

    will
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  2. John R. Strohm Guest

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    <> wrote in message
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    > Hello all,
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like

    a
    > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does

    any
    > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > budget is less than $500.
    >
    > can you give me any recommendations?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > will


    Will, you need to talk to the guy who posted right before you.

    DX7 keyboard, manual ,viking flight case, ram cart, windows dx editor
    program
    all set to go $150.00
    call john 326-2732 or email reply

    The Yamaha DX7 is velocity-sensitive on attack but not release. I like the
    piano sounds, and you can do some wonderful things with a little bit of
    chorus on an external delay. You will be staring down a serious learning
    curve, as the DX7 voice architecture is completely different from the
    conventional subtractive synthesis engine everyone else builds.
  3. ---GT--- Guest

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    On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:41:54 GMT, <> wrote:

    >Hello all,
    >
    >I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    >closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like a
    >hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does any
    >kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    >budget is less than $500.
    >

    I would suggest a secondhand Yamaha S-80 or Alesis QS-8
  4. HS Guest

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    I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    $500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for a
    used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    synths are hard to come by these days.

    <> wrote in message
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    > Hello all,
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like

    a
    > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does

    any
    > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > budget is less than $500.
    >
    > can you give me any recommendations?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > will
    >
    >
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  5. JohnD Guest

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    will
    i have a used kurzweil with 88 keys, wonderful organ string and piano sounds
    with upgraded sound banks stand etc u can have for 500, i tried to email you
    but the reply address comes back as not known
    email me if u are interested

    john

    "HS" <> wrote in message
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    > I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    > composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    > $500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    > Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    > sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for a
    > used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    > synths are hard to come by these days.
    >
    > <> wrote in message
    > news:CEjRa.79804$...
    > > Hello all,
    > >
    > > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs

    like
    > a
    > > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does

    > any
    > > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but

    my
    > > budget is less than $500.
    > >
    > > can you give me any recommendations?
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > >
    > > will
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    >
  6. Guest Guest

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    what model is it?

    thanks,

    will

    "JohnD" <> wrote in message
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    > will
    > i have a used kurzweil with 88 keys, wonderful organ string and piano

    sounds
    > with upgraded sound banks stand etc u can have for 500, i tried to email

    you
    > but the reply address comes back as not known
    > email me if u are interested
    >
    > john
    >
    > "HS" <> wrote in message
    > news:6wyRa.3$...
    > > I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    > > composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    > > $500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    > > Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    > > sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for

    a
    > > used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    > > synths are hard to come by these days.
    > >
    > > <> wrote in message
    > > news:CEjRa.79804$...
    > > > Hello all,
    > > >
    > > > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys

    (the
    > > > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs

    > like
    > > a
    > > > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it

    does
    > > any
    > > > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but

    > my
    > > > budget is less than $500.
    > > >
    > > > can you give me any recommendations?
    > > >
    > > > thanks,
    > > >
    > > > will
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  7. Jon Guest

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    Those are over $1,000 used

    HS wrote:

    > I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    > composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    > $500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    > Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    > sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for a
    > used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    > synths are hard to come by these days.
    >
    > <> wrote in message
    > news:CEjRa.79804$...
    > > Hello all,
    > >
    > > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like

    > a
    > > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does

    > any
    > > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > > budget is less than $500.
    > >
    > > can you give me any recommendations?
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > >
    > > will
    > >
    > >
  8. ---GT--- Guest

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    On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:36:47 -0600, "HS" <> wrote:

    >I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    >composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    >$500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    >Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    >sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for a
    >used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    >synths are hard to come by these days.
    >

    Those Ensoniqs are great products, but very unreliable. I saw many
    previews from people saying that they've got their third replacement
    keyboard and their second replacement motherboard. It doesn't sound
    like an instrument I would like to use when gigging. It takes a big
    car to carry 3 spare ones around.
  9. pTooner Guest

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    wrote:

    > Hello all,
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like a
    > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does any
    > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > budget is less than $500.
    >
    > can you give me any recommendations?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > will
    >
    >

    I don't believe you will find what you want for less than $500, but the
    best bet will be an Alesis QS8. You might also try the QS7 which is the
    same but with synth type keys instead of Piano type. Korg had one for a
    short time called, I believe N1 or N5, I forget which was the piano key
    model, but they weren't very expensive and didn't stay on the market
    long so they might be available used for around $500. I don't know of
    any synth with decent organ sounds, if I did I'd buy it. With your
    budget, you might look at some of the home use Yamahas at K mart and
    such. They have some impressive 76 key machines for home use although
    they have the spring type synth keys. Oh, if piano is important to you,
    you'll have to buy either Yamaha or Roland.

    Gerry
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    "pTooner" <> wrote in message
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    > wrote:
    >
    > > Hello all,
    > >
    > > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs

    like a
    > > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does

    any
    > > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but

    my
    > > budget is less than $500.
    > >
    > > can you give me any recommendations?
    > >
    > > thanks,
    > >
    > > will
    > >
    > >

    > I don't believe you will find what you want for less than $500, but the
    > best bet will be an Alesis QS8. You might also try the QS7 which is the
    > same but with synth type keys instead of Piano type. Korg had one for a
    > short time called, I believe N1 or N5, I forget which was the piano key
    > model, but they weren't very expensive and didn't stay on the market
    > long so they might be available used for around $500. I don't know of
    > any synth with decent organ sounds, if I did I'd buy it. With your
    > budget, you might look at some of the home use Yamahas at K mart and
    > such. They have some impressive 76 key machines for home use although
    > they have the spring type synth keys. Oh, if piano is important to you,
    > you'll have to buy either Yamaha or Roland.
    >
    > Gerry


    I second that . . . I've got a QS8, it's built sturdy, should take its fair
    share of "oops" without problem. But it weighs around 55 lbs, not a
    featherweight. Other than that, it's got some pretty fair organs and lots
    of interesting synth sounds, but I'm not real happy with the pianos.
    Roland pianos are better . . . but I guess ya can't have everything in one
    box, eh?
    If you wanna set a trend, you might consider a retro organ, like a spinet
    or console Baldwin, Wurlitzer, Lowrey, or Conn (personally dislike the sound
    of the Thomas organs--way too thin sounding; Conn is best for reeds, Baldwin
    for tibia/flutes). You could be the first with a kickass liturgical
    classical organ in your band . . . lots of good deals on e-bay. Just a
    thought . . .
    --Tock
  11. David Morley Guest

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    In article <CEjRa.79804$>,
    <> wrote:

    > Hello all,
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like a
    > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does any
    > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > budget is less than $500.
    >
    > can you give me any recommendations?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > will
    >
    >


    Kurzweil 1200 or pro76 should be well under $500 and has a great piano
    and strings Organs are fine too.
  12. spookyjon Guest

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    On 17/7/2003 6:46 PM, in article , "Jon"
    <> wrote:

    > Those are over $1,000 used
    >


    Step 1: Go to every thrift store you can reach.

    Step 2: Dredge them for keyboards.

    Step 3: Fun.

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  13. Richard Rodenhiser Guest

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    Ensoniq's have a dreadful reliability problem, compunded with horrible parts
    replacement logistics (ie. you'll wait forever to get the parts you'll
    almost certainly need).

    When they work, however, they do sound good.

    "---GT---" <> wrote in message news:3f19b6d8.2796025@news...
    > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 08:36:47 -0600, "HS" <> wrote:
    >
    > >I also recommend a used Ensoniq MR-76. Weighted keys, good
    > >composition/songwriting keyboard. If you can get a used one for around
    > >$500, consider yourself very lucky. Eventually, you can add a "Perfect
    > >Piano" module designed by William Coakley, and you'll have great piano
    > >sounds (arguably the best piano patches for synths). Also look out for a
    > >used Ensoniq ZR-76 (Perfect Piano built-in) for a little more $$. These
    > >synths are hard to come by these days.
    > >

    > Those Ensoniqs are great products, but very unreliable. I saw many
    > previews from people saying that they've got their third replacement
    > keyboard and their second replacement motherboard. It doesn't sound
    > like an instrument I would like to use when gigging. It takes a big
    > car to carry 3 spare ones around.
    >
  14. H.John Henry Guest

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    Go to a music store that sells Casio, and try the WT1630 or WT 1800.
    They are the same instrument, except that the WT1800 has a disk drive.
    I have one, cost $365 new, and the sound is very good, with lots of what
    you're asking for, bells and whistles galore. Also look on eBay, where
    they are selling for around $250-300. They have 73 keys, close enough?
    One disadvantage: the lowest note is an E. Being a piano player, I
    rather prefer that the lowest note is a C, which it is on the Casio
    WT1350, which is the keyboard I had before this one. Matter of choice.
    Hank

    wrote:
    > Hello all,
    >
    > I'm in the hunt for a keyboard with full size touch sensitive keys (the
    > closer to 88 the better). I need good piano sounds as well as organs like a
    > hammond b3, and then also tons of synth sounds. i don't care if it does any
    > kind of recording or sequencing. i'm fully open to used keyboards but my
    > budget is less than $500.
    >
    > can you give me any recommendations?
    >
    > thanks,
    >
    > will
    >
    >
  15. Guest Guest

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    In article <98nUa.22268$>,
    Richard Rodenhiser <> wrote:
    >Ensoniq's have a dreadful reliability problem


    I haven't been in the field that much, but nevertheless Ensoniq has
    the distinction of being the only piece of gear that has ever failed
    me on stage.

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  16. Guest Guest

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    In article <CEjRa.79804$>,
    <> wrote:
    >Hello all,


    >can you give me any recommendations?


    For $500, you can probably get an Alesis QS8. For a bit more, you can
    probably get a QS8.1... That ".1" represents a somewhat better sounding
    instrument and some miscellaneous improvements, but it's not like the
    QS8 was a dog by any means.

    Another option in your budget range might be to just get a nice controller,
    the objective being to have good action and flexibility, and invest in a
    synth module. Maybe start with a Roland **80 -- won't have good pianos,
    but still a great synth. Even the 880 can be had for $50-100, and
    really isn't bad... If you like it, you'll start saving for that 5080 :)....
    A bit more, and you find the EMU proteus, which should keep you busy for a while.

    For organs, I've always appreciated the tonewheel patches and the leslie
    effect on Alesis QS's. It might not be the best organ sound, but I
    think it's the best in the price range.

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