Casio WK-3000 vs. Roland EXR-5 - for accompaniment/backing music

Discussion in 'rec.music.synth' started by spanky, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. spanky Guest

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    I am a solo performer, and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and
    uncomplicated solution to create some decent sounding accompaniment music
    for my instrumental guitar gigs. I am just doing cocktail and background
    music for weddings, cafes or restaurants. The home computer studio idea is
    appealing to me, but from what I have understood thus far, it involvies a
    certain amount of gear like MIDI/Audio interfaces, software like Cubase,
    software based sound modules for GOOD sounds (ie.Sampletank, VST
    intruments), etc. This can be somewhat expensive to achieve for a
    beginner's budget, and a part time gig. Not to mention, complicated when it
    comes to things like working in Cubase.

    I have considered instead to purchase a good entry level keyboard with good
    sounds and smartmedia/floppy drive. A couple I have had my eyes on are the
    Casio WK-3000 (http://www.zzounds.com/item--CASWK3000AD) and the Roland
    EXR-5 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLEXR5). Believe it or not, that Casio
    model is being touted as an excellent buy by many reviews I read.

    What do you guys think? Opinions/ideas welcome. Thanks in advance.
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  2. Lincoln Yeoh Guest

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    On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:58:38 -0400, "spanky" <> wrote:

    >I am a solo performer, and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and
    >uncomplicated solution to create some decent sounding accompaniment music
    >for my instrumental guitar gigs. I am just doing cocktail and background
    >music for weddings, cafes or restaurants. The home computer studio idea is


    >
    >I have considered instead to purchase a good entry level keyboard with good
    >sounds and smartmedia/floppy drive. A couple I have had my eyes on are the
    >Casio WK-3000 (http://www.zzounds.com/item--CASWK3000AD) and the Roland
    >EXR-5 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLEXR5). Believe it or not, that Casio
    >model is being touted as an excellent buy by many reviews I read.
    >
    >What do you guys think? Opinions/ideas welcome. Thanks in advance.
    >


    I'd pick the WK3500 over the WK3000, because it has a mod-wheel (vs
    mod-button), independent lineouts (not just headphone out). The WK3500
    also has a floppy drive, but that's not that useful.

    I haven't tried the Roland. The roland has 64 note polyphony whilst
    the Casio has 32. The Roland has 61 keys, the casio has 76 keys. As
    far as I know, neither have aftertouch. Since I have a PC, and may one
    day use the PC as _the_ synth, having 76 keys can be more important!
    61 keys just isn't enough for my usage - feels really cramped.

    Despite some people calling the WK-3500 a toy, it's pretty good for
    the price. It has a DSP which "saves" lots of otherwise
    mediocre/boring instruments - it really makes a big difference. But
    you can only use one DSP effect at a time ( I think you can choose to
    have a DSP effect on one layer/split and zero DSP effect on another
    layer/split).

    Not sure if the Roland has a configurable DSP. Don't see effects or
    DSP mentioned anywhere in the specs. So it may not have one. Maybe you
    should test the Korg X5D too if it's within your budget - can have two
    effects at a time.

    On the WK3500 you can actually upload new sounds/samples not just new
    parameters for existing sounds. That said, Casio's PC software isn't
    very good and seems to be stagnant (they should open source it or
    something if they aren't going to improve it). I've converted and
    uploaded my own wave samples and they just don't sound that good - not
    sure what the native sampling rate is or whatever it is. Whereas the
    sounds downloaded from Casio's site sound fine when I upload them, so
    it could be a problem with the software (and/or the sampling rate?).

    BTW why the EXR-5 instead of the EXR-3?

    Try it first- sometimes you just hate the sounds.
  3. Mike H Guest

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    > I am a solo performer, and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and
    > uncomplicated solution to create some decent sounding accompaniment music
    > for my instrumental guitar gigs. I am just doing cocktail and background
    > music for weddings, cafes or restaurants. The home computer studio idea is
    > appealing to me, but from what I have understood thus far, it involvies a
    > certain amount of gear like MIDI/Audio interfaces, software like Cubase,
    > software based sound modules for GOOD sounds (ie.Sampletank, VST
    > intruments), etc. This can be somewhat expensive to achieve for a
    > beginner's budget, and a part time gig. Not to mention, complicated when it
    > comes to things like working in Cubase.
    >
    > I have considered instead to purchase a good entry level keyboard with good
    > sounds and smartmedia/floppy drive. A couple I have had my eyes on are the
    > Casio WK-3000 (http://www.zzounds.com/item--CASWK3000AD) and the Roland
    > EXR-5 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLEXR5). Believe it or not, that Casio
    > model is being touted as an excellent buy by many reviews I read.
    >
    > What do you guys think? Opinions/ideas welcome. Thanks in advance.


    Well I'm a bit biased, but I still think you should consider the software solution.
    You'll be able to create *much* more pro sounding tracks for less or the same
    amount of money.

    My suggestion is to check out Reason by Propellerhead Software,
    Home Studio by Cakewalk or Orion Pro by Synapse-audio. Or why don't you
    check out the Magix software, such as Magix Music Maker.

    Use a controller such as the cheapest Fatar keyboard and use a cheap MIDI
    interface from M-Audio / Midiman.

    M. Hillborg
    MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    http://www.mhc.se
  4. Ralf Gauglitz Guest

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    Hi,

    maybe you consider having a look at the old RA-90 series w/o keyboard.
    This device did a pretty good job for me and some collegues. In my
    studio and on stage as well. You might find them pretty cheap. I paid
    about $1200 in '91. You may have a look at the KORG series as well !
    Best thing I need (that's MY subjective opinion) go and try to get
    yourself a '02 Yamaha PSR 9000 (studio version is best). This keyboard
    is pretty cool and does a real good job !

    Cheers
    Ralf

    Mike H wrote:
    >>I am a solo performer, and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and
    >>uncomplicated solution to create some decent sounding accompaniment music
    >>for my instrumental guitar gigs. I am just doing cocktail and background
    >>music for weddings, cafes or restaurants. The home computer studio idea is
    >>appealing to me, but from what I have understood thus far, it involvies a
    >>certain amount of gear like MIDI/Audio interfaces, software like Cubase,
    >>software based sound modules for GOOD sounds (ie.Sampletank, VST
    >>intruments), etc. This can be somewhat expensive to achieve for a
    >>beginner's budget, and a part time gig. Not to mention, complicated when it
    >>comes to things like working in Cubase.
    >>
    >>I have considered instead to purchase a good entry level keyboard with good
    >>sounds and smartmedia/floppy drive. A couple I have had my eyes on are the
    >>Casio WK-3000 (http://www.zzounds.com/item--CASWK3000AD) and the Roland
    >>EXR-5 http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLEXR5). Believe it or not, that Casio
    >>model is being touted as an excellent buy by many reviews I read.
    >>
    >>What do you guys think? Opinions/ideas welcome. Thanks in advance.

    >
    >
    > Well I'm a bit biased, but I still think you should consider the software solution.
    > You'll be able to create *much* more pro sounding tracks for less or the same
    > amount of money.
    >
    > My suggestion is to check out Reason by Propellerhead Software,
    > Home Studio by Cakewalk or Orion Pro by Synapse-audio. Or why don't you
    > check out the Magix software, such as Magix Music Maker.
    >
    > Use a controller such as the cheapest Fatar keyboard and use a cheap MIDI
    > interface from M-Audio / Midiman.
    >
    > M. Hillborg
    > MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    > http://www.mhc.se
    >
    >
    >
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