Cubase files in Pro Tools

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  1. SlutBeGone Studios Guest

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    Hi people. Can anyone tell me the best (quickest and easiest) way to export
    sessions done in Cubase SX3 to a format Pro Tools can easily import? I love
    recording with Cubase but my mastering engineer insists on mixing in Pro
    Tools (Jerk!).

    Matt
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  2. Cyberserf Guest

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    On Feb 16, 8:58 am, "SlutBeGone Studios" <>
    wrote:
    > Hi people. Can anyone tell me the best (quickest and easiest) way to export
    > sessions done in Cubase SX3 to a format Pro Tools can easily import? I love
    > recording with Cubase but my mastering engineer insists on mixing in Pro
    > Tools (Jerk!).
    >
    > Matt


    Save each track so that they are the same length (bounce selections
    that are cut up and make sure the start of each track is the
    same...all tracks start at the same spot). Next, export each of your
    tracks individually (or if you want to combine some into stems), with
    appropriate names (solo the track...export to 24bit wave if possible).
    In PT, import each of the resultant wave files to its own track. Since
    all tracks start at the same spot, they will be lined up when
    imported. Or you can use a translation utility that can read your
    Cubase SX files and transform them into PT files....big $$.

    HTH, CS
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    Re: Cubase files in Pro Tools (OMF in cubase 5?)

    Cyberserf a écrit :
    > Or you can use a translation utility that can read your
    > Cubase SX files and transform them into PT files....big $$.
    >


    Really? Is that even a thing?
    I know about Digitranslator, but it could only be used if Cubase was
    able to export OMF, am I right?

    Btw, I'm going to receive Cubase 5 in a few days. Is OMF export
    (import?) available in this version?

    Huey
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    Re: Cubase files in Pro Tools (OMF in cubase 5?)

    On Feb 16, 10:41 am, Hueyduck <> wrote:
    > Cyberserf a écrit :
    >
    > >  Or you can use a translation utility that can read your
    > > Cubase SX files and transform them into PT files....big $$.

    >
    > Really? Is that even a thing?
    > I know about Digitranslator, but it could only be used if Cubase was
    > able to export OMF, am I right?
    >
    > Btw, I'm going to receive Cubase 5 in a few days.  Is OMF export
    > (import?) available in this version?
    >
    > Huey


    Yes, Cubase can save to OMF, but there are issues if you have
    interleaved stereo files (PT only likes mono (or split stereo). In
    addition, other things can make PT choke such as multiple bit depths
    in a single session). Finally, as indicated, the Digi translator is
    not cheap. In my opinion, it is best to "print to track" any effects
    (saving the wet signal) and such that you want exported by bouncing it
    down and then go old school (individual tracks or stems with a common
    start point). Keep in mind that PT works best at 24bit depths. Here's
    a couple of threads that may be of help,

    http://audioengineering.tribe.net/thread/9c7428b1-16ee-4630-a554-d4431886027b

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr06/articles/cubasetech_0406.htm

    Regards, CS
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  5. Hueyduck Guest

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    Re: Cubase files in Pro Tools (OMF in cubase 5?)

    Cyberserf a écrit :
    > On Feb 16, 10:41 am, Hueyduck <> wrote:
    >> Cyberserf a écrit :
    >>
    >>> Or you can use a translation utility that can read your
    >>> Cubase SX files and transform them into PT files....big $$.

    >> Really? Is that even a thing?
    >> I know about Digitranslator, but it could only be used if Cubase was
    >> able to export OMF, am I right?
    >>
    >> Btw, I'm going to receive Cubase 5 in a few days. Is OMF export
    >> (import?) available in this version?
    >>
    >> Huey

    >
    > Yes, Cubase can save to OMF, but there are issues if you have
    > interleaved stereo files (PT only likes mono (or split stereo). In
    > addition, other things can make PT choke such as multiple bit depths
    > in a single session).


    Thanks for your input.
    I've been bouncing me stems for nearly 10 years, now.
    But OMF would be very useful sometimes, just to be able to prepare
    simple sessions in cubase and then open it in Protools.

    ANd if you ask me, when one knows why OMF was created in the beginning,
    a software that exports uncompatible OMF only deserves to be called a
    "software that can't export OMF at all".
    It's a bit strange to take the time and do things if it's to do useless
    things, don't you think?

    On the other hand, it might be ProTools fault, but from what I read,
    it's not.

    Huey
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    Re: Cubase files in Pro Tools (OMF in cubase 5?)

    On Feb 16, 12:40 pm, Hueyduck <> wrote:
    > Cyberserf a écrit :
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Feb 16, 10:41 am, Hueyduck <> wrote:
    > >> Cyberserf a écrit :

    >
    > >>>  Or you can use a translation utility that can read your
    > >>> Cubase SX files and transform them into PT files....big $$.
    > >> Really? Is that even a thing?
    > >> I know about Digitranslator, but it could only be used if Cubase was
    > >> able to export OMF, am I right?

    >
    > >> Btw, I'm going to receive Cubase 5 in a few days.  Is OMF export
    > >> (import?) available in this version?

    >
    > >> Huey

    >
    > > Yes, Cubase can save to OMF, but there are issues if you have
    > > interleaved stereo files (PT only likes mono (or split stereo). In
    > > addition, other things can make PT choke such as multiple bit depths
    > > in a single session).

    >
    > Thanks for your input.
    > I've been bouncing me stems for nearly 10 years, now.
    > But OMF would be very useful sometimes, just to be able to prepare
    > simple sessions in cubase and then open it in Protools.
    >
    > ANd if you ask me, when one knows why OMF was created in the beginning,
    >   a software that exports uncompatible OMF only deserves to be called a
    > "software that can't export OMF at all".
    > It's a bit strange to take the time and do things if it's to do useless
    > things, don't you think?
    >
    > On the other hand, it might be ProTools fault, but from what I read,
    > it's not.
    >
    > Huey


    It may not be a PT issue, but Cubase is not the only offender (Cubase
    to Logic is much easier, but Logic to PT can be a pain...don't even
    get me started on Sonar or Final Cut). The real issue seems to be that
    PT does not handle all of the AVID Open Media Framework standards...it
    only chooses to handle those that it supports. Thus, interleave stereo
    and heterogeneous bit depths are not supported in PT (though they are
    part of the standards). The error handling for these unsupported
    "formats", leaves something to be desired. Keep in mind, OMF is not
    just for audio (indeed, AVID stores Audio in AIFF files and video in
    OMFI). In any event, if you look at any other application that
    supports OMF (CS4, DP, Final Cut Nuendo)...PT has problems with each
    an everyone of their OMF files (to one extent or another). Finally,
    running a Cubase OMF to AVID does not typically produce errors...and
    PT does seem to behave better with AVID OMF saves...so perhaps the
    extra import\export step is beneficial.

    -CS
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