Hi, Does anyone know of a audio delay plugin with a delay time that can be set to "variable and random"? All I have is delays with a fixed delay setting. I want to make it sound like someone has tried to sing along with themselves. I guess that would vary the delay time between -100 and +100 ms. Any suggestion appreciated. Jos. -- Ardis Park Music www.ardispark.nl
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:23:13 +0100, Jos Geluk <> wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone know of a audio delay plugin with a delay time that can be >set to "variable and random"? All I have is delays with a fixed delay >setting. I want to make it sound like someone has tried to sing along >with themselves. I guess that would vary the delay time between -100 and >+100 ms. > >Any suggestion appreciated. > Unless you were looking for random phase effects, the new delay time would need to be triggered at the start of each note and then remain constant throughout the note. And I'm afraid "random wrongness" doesn't equate to "human feel". The best way to do this remains the old way - record the singer twice. CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
Jos Geluk a écrit : > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a audio delay plugin with a delay time that can be > set to "variable and random"? All I have is delays with a fixed delay > setting. I want to make it sound like someone has tried to sing along > with themselves. I guess that would vary the delay time between -100 and > +100 ms. > > Any suggestion appreciated. Laurence is right when saying that the best (the cheapest too) way is to sing twice But I can tell you that Melodyne does what you want very well. There is a function that introduces random modification of pitch and/or placement of the notes that are sung. It produces something that cannot be told from a second take, really. As melodyne seems to function like the pitsh correction fucntion of cubase 5, have you looked in this direction (eg a derivative use of the pitsch correction of cubase 5). I cannot help you with this last suggestion since I haven't bothered installing cubase 5 yet. Huey
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:17:22 +0100, Hueyduck <> wrote: >Laurence is right when saying that the best (the cheapest too) way is to >sing twice >But I can tell you that Melodyne does what you want very well. >There is a function that introduces random modification of pitch and/or >placement of the notes that are sung. > >It produces something that cannot be told from a second take, really. > >As melodyne seems to function like the pitsh correction fucntion of >cubase 5, have you looked in this direction (eg a derivative use of the >pitsch correction of cubase 5). I cannot help you with this last >suggestion since I haven't bothered installing cubase 5 yet. Fair enough. But be careful you don't end up with an emulation of a singer double-tracking BADLY CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
Op 22-1-2010 13:29, Laurence Payne schreef: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:17:22 +0100, Hueyduck<> > wrote: > >> Laurence is right when saying that the best (the cheapest too) way is to >> sing twice >> But I can tell you that Melodyne does what you want very well. >> There is a function that introduces random modification of pitch and/or >> placement of the notes that are sung. >> >> It produces something that cannot be told from a second take, really. >> >> As melodyne seems to function like the pitsh correction fucntion of >> cubase 5, have you looked in this direction (eg a derivative use of the >> pitsch correction of cubase 5). I cannot help you with this last >> suggestion since I haven't bothered installing cubase 5 yet. > > Fair enough. But be careful you don't end up with an emulation of a > singer double-tracking BADLY Thank you both! And my apologies: I should have made clear that a certain artificiality is what I'm after, not "human feel" or something that could be done better by singing twice. I have been thinking of investing in Melodyne anyway, and not because my singers can't keep a tune Have a nice weekend, Jos. -- Ardis Park Music www.ardispark.nl
"Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message news:... > On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:23:13 +0100, Jos Geluk <> > wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>Does anyone know of a audio delay plugin with a delay time that can be >>set to "variable and random"? All I have is delays with a fixed delay >>setting. I want to make it sound like someone has tried to sing along >>with themselves. I guess that would vary the delay time between -100 and >>+100 ms. >> >>Any suggestion appreciated. >> > > Unless you were looking for random phase effects, the new delay time > would need to be triggered at the start of each note and then remain > constant throughout the note. And I'm afraid "random wrongness" > doesn't equate to "human feel". The best way to do this remains the > old way - record the singer twice. There is a free plug-in called adt by vacuumsound that may be along those lines: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/3549.html I've used it a couple times, it's stable in CubStud4, but I don't track vocals. I have played with a design for a delay in which the delay time and the feedback levels were modulated by a random LFO. Boy, if you ever want things to get real out-of-control real fast, that's a delay for you.
