Dual booting question

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  1. Steve Ardcorr Guest

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    Hello all
    Just bought a new i7 system and needing to run both 32 and 64bit windows
    so will be dual booting. It comes with a 640gig drive so would have plenty
    of
    room to partition and install both on the same drive but was considering the
    merits
    of using 2 physical drives (what ere they?) Ok, if one drive fails I still
    have the other
    but aside from that what else is there.
    The other question would be, if using two drives do you have to go in to
    bios every
    time and select which drive to boot from or does something like, "system
    Commander"
    wake up before the bios stage. Otherwise wouldn't it just keep booting to
    the
    same drive that your bios tells it to.

    Steve
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    The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    <> grabbed the controls of
    the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    > The other question would be, if using two drives do you have to go in
    > to bios every
    > time and select which drive to boot from or does something like,
    > "system Commander"
    > wake up before the bios stage. Otherwise wouldn't it just keep booting
    > to the
    > same drive that your bios tells it to.
    >


    Most newer mobos will let you hit a key (F8 on Asus) that will ask what
    drive you want to boot from for this session. I use it all the time to
    boot from a flash drive with Linux on it.

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    Thanks GB
    My memory is like the proverbial sieve. My flat mate told
    me this a few weeks back. So am I right in thinking this would
    be the only option? A boot program won't pick up the other drive
    before the bios does? Sounds about right to me.
    I know it'll take a while to train my self to press F8 and I'll keep
    forgetting but I guess that's the way it has to be :)

    Steve


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    > The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    > <> grabbed the controls of
    > the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> The other question would be, if using two drives do you have to go in
    >> to bios every
    >> time and select which drive to boot from or does something like,
    >> "system Commander"
    >> wake up before the bios stage. Otherwise wouldn't it just keep booting
    >> to the
    >> same drive that your bios tells it to.
    >>

    >
    > Most newer mobos will let you hit a key (F8 on Asus) that will ask what
    > drive you want to boot from for this session. I use it all the time to
    > boot from a flash drive with Linux on it.
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    The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr" <purtington@Use-Author-Supplied-
    Address.invalid> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and
    pressed these buttons...

    > My memory is like the proverbial sieve. My flat mate told
    > me this a few weeks back. So am I right in thinking this would
    > be the only option? A boot program won't pick up the other drive
    > before the bios does? Sounds about right to me.
    > I know it'll take a while to train my self to press F8 and I'll keep
    > forgetting but I guess that's the way it has to be :)


    If you install as dual boot, Windows itself will give you a boot menu to
    select which OS to boot to. Whether it is legal to install both the 32 and
    64 bit versions from one copy of Windows is debatable though. With
    Windows7 some of the way things used to work have changed.

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  5. Steve Ardcorr Guest

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    but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    bad configuration I guess.

    No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes with
    my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may use both but
    I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing it so I can hold
    on to
    my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    Steve


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    > The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr" <purtington@Use-Author-Supplied-
    > Address.invalid> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and
    > pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> My memory is like the proverbial sieve. My flat mate told
    >> me this a few weeks back. So am I right in thinking this would
    >> be the only option? A boot program won't pick up the other drive
    >> before the bios does? Sounds about right to me.
    >> I know it'll take a while to train my self to press F8 and I'll keep
    >> forgetting but I guess that's the way it has to be :)

    >
    > If you install as dual boot, Windows itself will give you a boot menu to
    > select which OS to boot to. Whether it is legal to install both the 32
    > and
    > 64 bit versions from one copy of Windows is debatable though. With
    > Windows7 some of the way things used to work have changed.
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    The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    <> grabbed the controls of
    the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    > but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    > I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    > 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    > bad configuration I guess.
    >
    > No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    > with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    > use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    > it so I can hold on to
    > my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.


    The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    activating might get bitchy.

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  7. John Braner Guest

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    On 23/09/2010 20:18, Glennbo wrote:
    > The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    > <> grabbed the controls of
    > the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >> bad configuration I guess.
    >>
    >> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >> it so I can hold on to
    >> my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    >
    > The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    > the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    > I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    > bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    > it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    > activating might get bitchy.
    >


    Another option is to use a boot manager - like this one
    http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm

    This way you "hide" one partition (or disk) when the other one is booted, so the two (or more)
    versions can't screw each other up. You basically set it up, and then you get a menu when your PC
    boots and pick which partition (or disk) you want to beet from. Have a look at the web site. If the
    thought of using a boot manager freaks you out - just ignore this post ;-)


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    "John Braner" <> wrote in message
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    > On 23/09/2010 20:18, Glennbo wrote:
    >> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >> <> grabbed the controls of
    >> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>
    >>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>
    >>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >>> it so I can hold on to
    >>> my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    >>
    >> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    >> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    >> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    >> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    >> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    >> activating might get bitchy.
    >>

    >
    > Another option is to use a boot manager - like this one
    > http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
    >
    > This way you "hide" one partition (or disk) when the other one is booted,
    > so the two (or more) versions can't screw each other up. You basically set
    > it up, and then you get a menu when your PC boots and pick which partition
    > (or disk) you want to beet from. Have a look at the web site. If the
    > thought of using a boot manager freaks you out - just ignore this post ;-)
    >
    >
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    Hey, that's the same way I did it when I wanted to try out Win95 on my old
    dos6/win3.1 computer. I used Partition Magic. I ran it that way for about a
    year.
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    Glennbo <> écrivait
    news:Xns9DFC917206D33BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62:

    > The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    > <> grabbed the controls of
    > the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >> bad configuration I guess.
    >>
    >> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >> it so I can hold on to my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    >
    > The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    > the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    > I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    > bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    > it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    > activating might get bitchy.
    >


    My OEM version of Win7 Pro only have the 64 bits installation DVD.

    My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's illegal
    to have both installed with the same key, one key=one installation.

    You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove your
    current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.
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    The killer robot Dominique <> grabbed the controls of the
    spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    > My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's
    > illegal to have both installed with the same key, one key=one
    > installation.
    >
    > You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove
    > your current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.


    That's what I figured the license allowed. I don't have any need for 64
    bit at this time, so I only am using the 32 bit version on the two machines
    I have running Windows 7.

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  11. Steve Ardcorr Guest

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    That's weird, I used to have xp pro dual booted
    with the same key and both activated. I had to call
    Microsoft a few times as I'd ran out of authorizations.
    They said dual booting was fine as long as it was just on the one
    machine.like there's any other way to dual boot :))
    Steve


    "Dominique" <> wrote in message
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    > Glennbo <> écrivait
    > news:Xns9DFC917206D33BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62:
    >
    >> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >> <> grabbed the controls of
    >> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>
    >>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>
    >>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >>> it so I can hold on to my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    >>
    >> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    >> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    >> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    >> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    >> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    >> activating might get bitchy.
    >>

    >
    > My OEM version of Win7 Pro only have the 64 bits installation DVD.
    >
    > My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's
    > illegal
    > to have both installed with the same key, one key=one installation.
    >
    > You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove your
    > current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.
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    I didn't try it, it might work since it's the same hardware but FWIW it
    is a violation of the EULA. The key allows you to install one instance of
    either x86 or x64.


    "Steve Ardcorr" <> écrivait
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    > That's weird, I used to have xp pro dual booted
    > with the same key and both activated. I had to call
    > Microsoft a few times as I'd ran out of authorizations.
    > They said dual booting was fine as long as it was just on the one
    > machine.like there's any other way to dual boot :))
    > Steve
    >
    >
    > "Dominique" <> wrote in message
    > news:XnF9DFD7928A556Edoumdomainnet@69.16.185.252...
    >> Glennbo <> écrivait
    >> news:Xns9DFC917206D33BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62:
    >>
    >>> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >>> <> grabbed the controls

    of
    >>> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>>
    >>>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>>
    >>>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that

    comes
    >>>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only

    doing
    >>>> it so I can hold on to my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.
    >>>
    >>> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with

    both
    >>> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version,

    so
    >>> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the

    64
    >>> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect

    that
    >>> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive,

    but
    >>> activating might get bitchy.
    >>>

    >>
    >> My OEM version of Win7 Pro only have the 64 bits installation DVD.
    >>
    >> My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's
    >> illegal
    >> to have both installed with the same key, one key=one installation.
    >>
    >> You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove

    your
    >> current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.

    >
    >
    >
  13. Gerry Peters Guest

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    On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:56:45 +0100, John Braner <>
    wrote:

    >On 23/09/2010 20:18, Glennbo wrote:
    >> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >> <> grabbed the controls of
    >> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>
    >>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>
    >>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >>> it so I can hold on to
    >>> my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.

    >>
    >> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    >> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    >> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    >> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    >> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    >> activating might get bitchy.
    >>

    >
    >Another option is to use a boot manager - like this one
    >http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
    >
    >This way you "hide" one partition (or disk) when the other one is booted, so the two (or more)
    >versions can't screw each other up. You basically set it up, and then you get a menu when your PC
    >boots and pick which partition (or disk) you want to beet from. Have a look at the web site. If the
    >thought of using a boot manager freaks you out - just ignore this post ;-)


    WIth Win 98 it was very easy to have a dual boot system by just
    partitioning a HD and have the dual boots on different partitions of
    the same HD. With XP this was not possible without a real headache. I
    tried Bootit for quite a few months ad nfinally decided there were far
    few problems by just using 2 different HD's for the dual boot and just
    go to the bios and tell it which HD to boot from.

    I wonder if they fixed this with Win 7? With XP the problem was that
    it was built from NT, which required boot.ini, etc in the C root
    directory. As cheap as HD's are today, I don't think I'd even attempt
    to boot from different partitions.

    I've tried all sorts of boot managers. They can cause all sorts of
    unexpected problems. The most sure fire way to use a dual boot is to
    go to the bios each time and tell it which HD to boot from.
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  14. John Braner Guest

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    On 24/09/2010 23:44, Dominique wrote:
    > I didn't try it, it might work since it's the same hardware but FWIW it
    > is a violation of the EULA. The key allows you to install one instance of
    > either x86 or x64.
    >
    >
    > "Steve Ardcorr"<> écrivait
    > news:i7ilkb$7q6$:
    >
    >> That's weird, I used to have xp pro dual booted
    >> with the same key and both activated. I had to call
    >> Microsoft a few times as I'd ran out of authorizations.
    >> They said dual booting was fine as long as it was just on the one
    >> machine.like there's any other way to dual boot :))
    >> Steve
    >>
    >>
    >> "Dominique"<> wrote in message
    >> news:XnF9DFD7928A556Edoumdomainnet@69.16.185.252...
    >>> Glennbo<> écrivait
    >>> news:Xns9DFC917206D33BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62:
    >>>
    >>>> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >>>> <> grabbed the controls

    > of
    >>>> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>>>
    >>>>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>>>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>>>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>>>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that

    > comes
    >>>>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>>>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only

    > doing
    >>>>> it so I can hold on to my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with

    > both
    >>>> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version,

    > so
    >>>> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the

    > 64
    >>>> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect

    > that
    >>>> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive,

    > but
    >>>> activating might get bitchy.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> My OEM version of Win7 Pro only have the 64 bits installation DVD.
    >>>
    >>> My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's
    >>> illegal
    >>> to have both installed with the same key, one key=one installation.
    >>>
    >>> You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove

    > your
    >>> current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.

    >>
    >>
    >>

    >


    That's a really grey area though. If you instsall onto twp different partitions on your HD, then
    it's clear you can only ever run one at a time - it really is "one" installation. I've had XP
    installed multiple times like this (on the same computer) and now Win 7 - and I've never had a
    problem. When it activates - it *is* the same computer.

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  15. John Braner Guest

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    On 24/09/2010 00:31, sambodidley wrote:
    > "John Braner"<> wrote in message
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    >> On 23/09/2010 20:18, Glennbo wrote:
    >>> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >>> <> grabbed the controls of
    >>> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>>
    >>>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>>
    >>>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >>>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >>>> it so I can hold on to
    >>>> my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.
    >>>
    >>> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    >>> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version, so
    >>> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    >>> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect that
    >>> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    >>> activating might get bitchy.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Another option is to use a boot manager - like this one
    >> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
    >>
    >> This way you "hide" one partition (or disk) when the other one is booted,
    >> so the two (or more) versions can't screw each other up. You basically set
    >> it up, and then you get a menu when your PC boots and pick which partition
    >> (or disk) you want to beet from. Have a look at the web site. If the
    >> thought of using a boot manager freaks you out - just ignore this post ;-)
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> ===========
    >> John Braner

    >
    > Hey, that's the same way I did it when I wanted to try out Win95 on my old
    > dos6/win3.1 computer. I used Partition Magic. I ran it that way for about a
    > year.
    >
    >


    Hi Sambo,
    That's what I used - Partition Magic's "Boot Magic" (I think it was called). It worked great. Then I
    switched to Acronis OSS (Operating system selector) because Boot Magic couldn't be installed (the
    actual boot manager files) on NTFS partitions. OSS is quirky, but I had it working. I eeven had it
    working for Win 7 when it wasn't supported. Now there is a new version of OSS (with Disk Director
    11) and it's *worse*! You can't run it from a boot CD (when there is a problem/emergency) so it's
    useless.

    So I got rid of OSS and switched to BootitNG. It's working fine for me. I'm not doing anything fancy
    with it - but it was easy to set up and just works.

    I think it's important when you dual boot that you completely hide one partion from the other. ie
    when you boot Windows 1 - hide Windows 2, and vice versa...

    --
    ===========
    John Braner


    http://cdbaby.com/cd/JohnBraner
    http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
  16. sambodidley Guest

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    "John Braner" <> wrote in message
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    > On 24/09/2010 00:31, sambodidley wrote:
    >> "John Braner"<> wrote in message
    >> news:i7gbdo$o0e$-september.org...
    >>> On 23/09/2010 20:18, Glennbo wrote:
    >>>> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >>>> <> grabbed the controls
    >>>> of
    >>>> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>>>
    >>>>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>>>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>>>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>>>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that comes
    >>>>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>>>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only doing
    >>>>> it so I can hold on to
    >>>>> my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.
    >>>>
    >>>> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with both
    >>>> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version,
    >>>> so
    >>>> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the 64
    >>>> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect
    >>>> that
    >>>> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive, but
    >>>> activating might get bitchy.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Another option is to use a boot manager - like this one
    >>> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
    >>>
    >>> This way you "hide" one partition (or disk) when the other one is
    >>> booted,
    >>> so the two (or more) versions can't screw each other up. You basically
    >>> set
    >>> it up, and then you get a menu when your PC boots and pick which
    >>> partition
    >>> (or disk) you want to beet from. Have a look at the web site. If the
    >>> thought of using a boot manager freaks you out - just ignore this post
    >>> ;-)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> ===========
    >>> John Braner

    >>
    >> Hey, that's the same way I did it when I wanted to try out Win95 on my
    >> old
    >> dos6/win3.1 computer. I used Partition Magic. I ran it that way for
    >> about a
    >> year.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Hi Sambo,
    > That's what I used - Partition Magic's "Boot Magic" (I think it was
    > called). It worked great. Then I switched to Acronis OSS (Operating system
    > selector) because Boot Magic couldn't be installed (the actual boot
    > manager files) on NTFS partitions. OSS is quirky, but I had it working. I
    > eeven had it working for Win 7 when it wasn't supported. Now there is a
    > new version of OSS (with Disk Director 11) and it's *worse*! You can't run
    > it from a boot CD (when there is a problem/emergency) so it's useless.
    >
    > So I got rid of OSS and switched to BootitNG. It's working fine for me.
    > I'm not doing anything fancy with it - but it was easy to set up and just
    > works.
    >
    > I think it's important when you dual boot that you completely hide one
    > partion from the other. ie when you boot Windows 1 - hide Windows 2, and
    > vice versa...
    >
    > --
    > ===========
    > John Braner


    `Yes, that's the way Bootmaster worked IFRC. When it booted you could
    select which partition you wanted to run and the other one was hidden. I
    had a lot of old dos apps on the old partition that I wasn't quite ready to
    give up to go to Win95. I even had Cakewalk Pro 4 for dos on it. I have
    never used a boot manager again since I ditched that old 486. Now I just
    buy another computer. I have 4 now in my lan and 3 stored in the closet.
    I have Acronis Disc Director 11 but seldom use it. I used it a couple
    of times to remove some restore partitions that I didn't need after I got a
    good image backup made.
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    "John Braner" <> wrote in message
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    > On 24/09/2010 23:44, Dominique wrote:
    >> I didn't try it, it might work since it's the same hardware but FWIW it
    >> is a violation of the EULA. The key allows you to install one instance of
    >> either x86 or x64.
    >>
    >>
    >> "Steve Ardcorr"<> écrivait
    >> news:i7ilkb$7q6$:
    >>
    >>> That's weird, I used to have xp pro dual booted
    >>> with the same key and both activated. I had to call
    >>> Microsoft a few times as I'd ran out of authorizations.
    >>> They said dual booting was fine as long as it was just on the one
    >>> machine.like there's any other way to dual boot :))
    >>> Steve
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Dominique"<> wrote in message
    >>> news:XnF9DFD7928A556Edoumdomainnet@69.16.185.252...
    >>>> Glennbo<> écrivait
    >>>> news:Xns9DFC917206D33BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62:
    >>>>
    >>>>> The killer robot "Steve Ardcorr"
    >>>>> <> grabbed the controls

    >> of
    >>>>> the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> but wont that only happen if both os's are on the one drive?
    >>>>>> I tried this on my machine with xp on a sata drive and windows
    >>>>>> 7 on another "IDE" drive but that could have been caused by
    >>>>>> bad configuration I guess.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> No worries about the 32 bit. I'm not even sure the oem disk that

    >> comes
    >>>>>> with my new daw has both versions? If it does, and it's legal I may
    >>>>>> use both but I'd be fine with just an xp 32bit install. I'm only

    >> doing
    >>>>>> it so I can hold on to my yamaha sw1000xg for a little longer.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The Windows 7 Professional that I run here in my office came with

    >> both
    >>>>> the 32 bit and 64 bit versions. I only installed the 32 bit version,

    >> so
    >>>>> I don't know what it would do if I tried to additionally install the

    >> 64
    >>>>> bit version on the same machine but on another partition. I suspect

    >> that
    >>>>> it would leave the install on C: alone since it's on another drive,

    >> but
    >>>>> activating might get bitchy.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> My OEM version of Win7 Pro only have the 64 bits installation DVD.
    >>>>
    >>>> My Upgrade pack has both 32 and 64 bits DVD but I'm quite sure it's
    >>>> illegal
    >>>> to have both installed with the same key, one key=one installation.
    >>>>
    >>>> You may switch from 32 to 64 or from 64 to 32 but you have to remove

    >> your
    >>>> current installation. Might require a phone call to MS.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    > That's a really grey area though. If you instsall onto twp different
    > partitions on your HD, then it's clear you can only ever run one at a
    > time - it really is "one" installation. I've had XP installed multiple
    > times like this (on the same computer) and now Win 7 - and I've never had
    > a problem. When it activates - it *is* the same computer.
    >
    > --
    > ===========
    > John Braner
    >


    But I don't think I can do that with my update version of win7, though.
    It had to be installed from Vista and I could only do that once. I'm not
    complaining, though, because it only cost me $49 pre-order. I just ordered
    a new i7 computer with win7 64 so I'll be covered on that.
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