"exit without saving changes?"

Discussion in 'alt.steinberg.cubase' started by padcrusher@rock.com, Feb 20, 2009.

  1. Guest

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    I have up until quite recently been using cubase on my old ST, it
    still works fine, but as I get older my eyes don't fare as well, and I
    want to include audio, so I've now moved to cubase SX 2.2. I'm struck
    by how many good things have been dropped, and how many bad things
    have been added, or are still there. I can't believe that entering
    control data such as sustain is just as clunky and unusable as it
    always was, and am baffled by the inability to press the <esc> key
    while in the key editor to close it without saving any changes made.
    Is there really no "non-volatile" way to exit an edit window now?
    If there is and I've missed it, could someone please put me strait.

    TIA

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  2. Bas Guest

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    On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:53:42 -0800 (PST), wrote:

    >I have up until quite recently been using cubase on my old ST, it
    >still works fine, but as I get older my eyes don't fare as well, and I
    >want to include audio, so I've now moved to cubase SX 2.2. I'm struck
    >by how many good things have been dropped, and how many bad things
    >have been added, or are still there. I can't believe that entering
    >control data such as sustain is just as clunky and unusable as it
    >always was, and am baffled by the inability to press the <esc> key
    >while in the key editor to close it without saving any changes made.
    >Is there really no "non-volatile" way to exit an edit window now?
    >If there is and I've missed it, could someone please put me strait.
    >
    >TIA
    >
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    There's always ctrl-z if you're unhappy with edits.
    I for one am glad I don't get another 'are you sure?' window every
    time I do something.
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    a écrit :
    > I can't believe that entering
    > control data such as sustain is just as clunky and unusable as it
    > always was,


    I'm currently using SX1 and and think the same thing.
    Hope it's a bit more easy in cubase 4 or 5.
    For instance, there could be a box that one could tick in order to link
    a sustain controller (both the "on" and the "off" signal at the same
    time) to the notes one is erasing. For instance: once I erased all the
    notes over a sustain pedal, cubase would automatically erase the sustain
    controller too that was linked to the notes. ;)

    >and am baffled by the inability to press the <esc> key
    > while in the key editor to close it without saving any changes made.
    > Is there really no "non-volatile" way to exit an edit window now?
    > If there is and I've missed it, could someone please put me strait.


    For I accidentally use this key when I want to erease a note I just
    selected, I think I recall that you just have to hit "enter". The
    editor is closed and contains all the modifications you just made.

    If you want, in the preferences, you can link any key or key
    combination to any cubase funcition. It might be useful for you.


    Huey
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    Hueyduck a écrit :

    >> and am baffled by the inability to press the <esc> key
    >> while in the key editor to close it without saving any changes made.
    >> Is there really no "non-volatile" way to exit an edit window now?
    >> If there is and I've missed it, could someone please put me strait.

    >
    > For I accidentally use this key when I want to erease a note I just
    > selected, I think I recall that you just have to hit "enter". The
    > editor is closed and contains all the modifications you just made.
    >
    > If you want, in the preferences, you can link any key or key
    > combination to any cubase funcition. It might be useful for you.


    I just realised I certainly misunderstood your question. "enter" is
    obvisouly when you want to quit the editor while saving the changes.

    Now that I understood you question correctly:
    I also wondered why the "esc" had disappeared between cubase 3.5 (not
    SX3) and SX1
    I just said to myself that I didn't need it so much now that we have
    unlimited undo.

    I might be wrong , but I instinctively understood that when you are
    inside an container, the "undo list" is limited to the changes you made
    inside this container. This is like the "esc" trick, but you can limit
    it to any level of modification you made.

    Huey
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    I appreciate that the almost infinite levels of undo could be used to
    go back to where I was before I entered the editor, but if I've been
    fiddling around for 10 or 15 minutes and then decide it's not what I
    want, a simple tap of the <Esc> key would be a hell of a lot simpler
    than wading through reams of undo events to decide where I was up to.

    > I for one am glad I don't get another 'are you sure?' window every
    > time I do something.


    You never did, it used to work like this: You press the <enter> key
    and the editor exits saving your changes, no dialogue box. Or, you
    press the <Esc> key, and then it asks if you're sure you want to exit
    without saving changes. This 1 click to go back to where you were
    before you entered the editor is obviously a lot simpler then trawling
    through the undo list.
  6. Bas Guest

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    On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:03:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

    >I appreciate that the almost infinite levels of undo could be used to
    >go back to where I was before I entered the editor, but if I've been
    >fiddling around for 10 or 15 minutes and then decide it's not what I
    >want, a simple tap of the <Esc> key would be a hell of a lot simpler
    >than wading through reams of undo events to decide where I was up to.
    >
    >> I for one am glad I don't get another 'are you sure?' window every
    >> time I do something.

    >
    >You never did, it used to work like this: You press the <enter> key
    >and the editor exits saving your changes, no dialogue box. Or, you
    >press the <Esc> key, and then it asks if you're sure you want to exit
    >without saving changes. This 1 click to go back to where you were
    >before you entered the editor is obviously a lot simpler then trawling
    >through the undo list.
    >
    >
    >

    I understand.
    I guess it's just what you're used to, and what kind of music you make
    :)
    I used to work on Cubase on the Atari 1040 ST, then quit for a while,
    then came Nuendo, SX3 and now Studio 5
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