Late yesterday afternoon I got around to installing SONAR 8.5 on my newly upgraded 64-bit Windows 7 Professional system. When you install SONAR 8.5 (at least on a 64-bit system -- I don't recall if this was true on 32-bit XP), it gives you the choice of installing the 32-bit or 64-bit version. I kind of wish it had let me install both so I could try them side by side to compare in the event of problems. I went with the 64-bit version since going to 64-bit SONAR was my big reason for going to 64-bit Windows in the first place. If that ends up being a big problem once I get around to trying more things out, I guess I can always revisit the choice. I should note that I have no clue if there is actually the possibility of installing both side-by-side. The directory name used and file name used for the 64-bit version has nothing in it to suggest a 64-bit version, but maybe just specifying a different directory name would be good enough to install the other version alongside it. Or maybe not. ;-) I did the custom installation so I could choose paths and which plug-ins I want and don't want. I mostly choose all the plug-ins, but there are some that aren't on by default that I want to have there and some that are on by default that I don't want. Guitar Rig 3 LE is the main example of the latter (since I have the full Guitar Rig 3 plug-in). There are a few of the old Cakewalk plug-ins that are good examples of the former. One thing I noted in selecting plug-ins was there are a number that say 32-bit only, but some of those were not automatically turned off for installation in the 64-bit SONAR installation. For example, the DSP-FX-based Fx-series plug-ins like FxReverb fit that description. This is only applicable to DX and DXi plug-ins as BitBridge should take care of any 32-bit VST and VSTi plug-ins. I was disappointed that DreamStation is on the 32-bit only list, though I have plenty of options these days for the sort of thing it does decently. It's kind of a bummer to not have the Fx plug-ins, too, though I honestly haven't used them in some time now. (It will be a bigger bummer to not be able to use the full DSP-FX suite, as there are still one or two plug-ins there I use occasionally, and one I'd been using in most of my projects.) I also noted stuff like QuickTime import support was enabled by default, even though it says 32-bit only, so I disabled that kind of stuff, too. This is the first time I've installed SONAR on a "fresh system" (i.e. in the sense of having no user data to migrate) in ages, so I have to think about what all my preference stuff was so I can set that back up. In general, the installation went fine, then I had to tweak a few things to get to a starting point, such as changing the default of WDM audio card support to ASIO for my device's better drivers, resetting my audio and folder preferences, etc. I also applied the 8.5.1 patch to get things up to date. I could not get the MP3 encoder authorization program to work. It told me it couldn't find the shared utilities directory, so SONAR must not be installed properly. Well, it was installed and it works, so I don't know what gives with that. Something to revisit later... I loaded Beatscape next since that is on a separate DVD. I made a mistake in telling it what VST directory to use (I'd changed the default so I can get the Cakewalk plug-ins where I put the other ones, rather than having two separate VST root directories), so I had to move that manually later when I noticed it wasn't showing up in the plug-in list. Got that done and working. Side note: Just playing with Beatscape a few minutes "to verify its installation" reminded me how much fun that can be to play with. Still don't know if/when I'll ever use it in a real song, though. Next up was Dimension Pro. I'd hoped there would be a way to just reinstall the software without reinstalling the samples, since they were already on my hard disk, but, if so, I didn't find it. So I decided to have the samples go to a different directory since I was going through that anyway, then I can clean up the original ones later. I was pleasantly surprised to see that it is Dimension 1.2 that is shipping with SONAR 8.5's package with the media, and it offered me the choice of installing the 64-bit or 32-bit version. I went with 64-bit. After going through that installation and the ones for extra libraries for that (both from the 4th SONAR 8.5 DVD and some I have elsewhere), I was ready to try things out. It took a long time to rebuild its database/screen, but that eventually came up for the DX version. The VST version wasn't in the menu at all. I checked, and it was in the right location, so I don't know why it wasn't there. So I decided I'd do my usual trick of moving it out of the way, running SONAR again to refresh things, then moving it back and running SONAR again to refresh things and get it in there. That also didn't do it, but then I remember the tech note on making 64-bit Dimension Pro work, and it specified doing some things as admin, so I tried again, running SONAR as Administrator, and that got it in the menu. Somewhere in the course of doing something, though -- and I may have my order of events wrong above since it is from memory -- something got messed up. At one point the VST version came up and loaded the patch list, but now it won't load the VST version at all. Also, I hadn't tried last night to actually load a patch, just to bring up the directory, and this morning, when I tried loading patches, they were giving error messages about not finding their samples. I think that in the course of moving the Dimension Pro VST directory around I accidentally moved another Dimension Pro directory. While I thought I did a Windows Explorer-level Undo enough times to get back to where things were, it may be that I did not, or that I messed something up as I'm not even sure how I moved the wrong directory in the first place. Bottom line is I don't have Dimension Pro actually functioning at the moment, and I'll have to troubleshoot that when I get a chance. The DX version does load and shows its patch list, but the VST version doesn't even load. This morning I used SONAR 8.5 to practice some new songs for the worship band I play in at a local church. The routine there is to use a SONAR project I have preconfigured with the most common instrument types I use and a blank audio track. I drag an MP3 reference file of the song to the blank audio track, set the focus on the instrument track with the instrument sound I want to use for the song, then let the song play and play along. Because I haven't installed my non-Cakewalk instruments yet, I used the 64-bit version of TruePianos and a lame-assed organ sound from Roland GrooveSynth (I was originally going to see if Dimension Pro had something for me there, but got the sample errors I mentioned above). Lately I'd been setting latency for that practicing at 5-7 ms because, with Outlook sitting in the background and running whatever else was going on with my system drivers-wise and all, I'd get some crackling in something at lower latencies. However, today I decided to go straight for 2 ms, which is the lowest my card goes. It worked like a charm, even when I was playing along with Windows Media Player with a complex visualization playing at one point due to another problem I encountered (see below). Of course, there isn't as much going on with my system now as on the XP system, so that may be contributing, and I was using different instruments (e.g. TruePianos versus Garritan Steinway, GrooveSynth versus B4II) or maybe Win7 x64 really does have some performance benefits? I'll be watching this more as I get my system back to its more normal state. The only other problem I had in the course of this is that, when I dragged the MP3 file from one of the 5 songs I worked on from Explorer to the audio track, it gave me an Out of Memory error message. I was most certainly not out of memory, and I even tried stopping and restarting SONAR to make sure there wasn't just some funky internal state. I tried the file repeatedly, as well, to make sure there wasn't just some fluke, and other songs I dragged over afterward worked fine, too, so there is obviously something specific to the one MP3 file. That is when I just gave up on figuring it out for now and played it in Windows Media Player. (All the files worked fine there, so I knew the MP3 file was okay at that level.) I'll have to look at that further once I have some other applications installed, for example trying to read it into Sound Forge to see if that will handle it, looking at any specific attributes of the file to try and narrow down why it's not working. The problems with Dimension Pro also reminded me that I haven't loaded all the other synths yet to see if they actually work on the new installation, locate their patches, and so on. I did actually try most of the audio plug-ins when going through to test things, and they were fine. I was pleasantly surprised to see that most of the Cakewalk plug-ins that were on my previous system from my 9 iterations of SONAR and one of ProAudio were still there, even some of the older ones. The notable fallouts were the above-mentioned Fx-series, the surround version of Lexicon Pantheon (not sure when that was last included), the above-mentioned Dreamstation synth, and the FX3 Soundstage plug-in. I was kind of bummed in principle on the Soundstage thing in that I always thought that was a very promising plug-in, but, in reality, I hadn't used it in ages anyway because I never much liked the sound of it for ambience purposes. (It was never really part of SONAR anyway, so I didn't really expect it would be there. I think I got it as part of Cakewalk Pro Suite, which was an enhanced version of ProAudio 9. However, with the 64-bit stuff, and that being a 32-bit DX plug-in, it might have been nice if there were a 64-bit version available. It's really too bad Cakewalk never did anything further with that, because the idea of being able to localize things visually is really cool, and a lot of work goes into trying to do that aurally with other tools.) Oh yeah, and the other notable thing that isn't there (and wouldn't be from just installing SONAR 8.5) is the Timeworks plug-ins that were in SONAR 2 XL, namely CompressorX and Equalizer. Those were ones that made it worth going back to the SONAR 2 disc to get them, but their being 32-bit DX means they won't work on 64-bit SONAR, so there is no point now. Bummer. There are a few others in a similar category of one-time inclusions, like Tassman, LiveSynth Pro, VSampler, and probably one or two others I'm forgetting -- oh yeah, Revalver. But CompressorX and the Timeworks Equalizer were really the only ones I was still using with any regularity. (I think I also have the VST version of DR-008, but I haven't used that in awhile, so may not even reinstall it.) I've got a few more office-oriented applications I want to get out of the way before I focus on more plug-ins. I just needed enough of SONAR working to do my practicing this morning. But I should be getting back to installing my high priority plug-ins in the fairly near future, probably starting later tonight or tomorrow. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
In news: the killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > When you install SONAR 8.5 (at least on a 64-bit system -- I don't > recall if this was true on 32-bit XP), it gives you the choice of > installing the 32-bit or 64-bit version. I kind of wish it had let me > install both so I could try them side by side to compare in the event > of problems. I went with the 64-bit version since going to 64-bit > SONAR was my big reason for going to 64-bit Windows in the first > place. I'm sure you can install the 32 bit version, and not blow away the 64 bit version. Surely they live in different folders and can coexist. To do otherwise would be extremely stoopid, and while they may luv beetz & loopz, I don't think Cake is that stoopid. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Glennbo wrote: > In news: the killer robot > "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the controls of the > spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> When you install SONAR 8.5 (at least on a 64-bit system -- I don't >> recall if this was true on 32-bit XP), it gives you the choice of >> installing the 32-bit or 64-bit version. I kind of wish it had let me >> install both so I could try them side by side to compare in the event >> of problems. I went with the 64-bit version since going to 64-bit >> SONAR was my big reason for going to 64-bit Windows in the first >> place. > > I'm sure you can install the 32 bit version, and not blow away the 64 bit > version. Surely they live in different folders and can coexist. To do > otherwise would be extremely stoopid, and while they may luv beetz & loopz, > I don't think Cake is that stoopid. > Yes you can. All 32 bit apps intall in a program files x86 folder. The only pain is installing the various Vsts. They also have separate folders. Plus Cakes VST scanner sucks compared to Reaper and FL.
kitekrazy wrote: > Glennbo wrote: >> In news: the killer robot >> "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the controls of the >> spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>> When you install SONAR 8.5 (at least on a 64-bit system -- I don't >>> recall if this was true on 32-bit XP), it gives you the choice of >>> installing the 32-bit or 64-bit version. I kind of wish it had let me >>> install both so I could try them side by side to compare in the event >>> of problems. I went with the 64-bit version since going to 64-bit >>> SONAR was my big reason for going to 64-bit Windows in the first >>> place. >> >> I'm sure you can install the 32 bit version, and not blow away the 64 >> bit version. Surely they live in different folders and can coexist. >> To do otherwise would be extremely stoopid, and while they may luv >> beetz & loopz, I don't think Cake is that stoopid. >> > > Yes you can. All 32 bit apps intall in a program files x86 folder. > The only pain is installing the various Vsts. They also have separate > folders. Plus Cakes VST scanner sucks compared to Reaper and FL. > BTW, stay away from trying to install Dimension Pro as 64 bit. I've had nothing but problems.
"kitekrazy" <> wrote in message news:hcb38a$u37$-september.org... > kitekrazy wrote: >> Yes you can. All 32 bit apps intall in a program files x86 folder. >> The only pain is installing the various Vsts. They also have separate >> folders. Plus Cakes VST scanner sucks compared to Reaper and FL. > > BTW, stay away from trying to install Dimension Pro as 64 bit. I've had > nothing but problems. Thanks for the info. I'll revisit the 32-bit SONAR at some point in the future if I end up having issues I suspect may be 64-bit specific or need to have the 32-bit version around for some specific needs. As for Dimension Pro, what sort of issues are you having? I'm wondering if they are the same sort of things I've been seeing with the VST version not loading at all at the moment and the DX version not being able to find its samples. I *think* those issues are probably due to user errors on my part as I did do some kind of strange folder move thing that I still don't understand how I did in the first place (best I can guess is I was confusing the software folder with a folder of the same name under the VST structure, perhaps due to not being used to the different look of Windows Explorer in Win7) and thought I'd reversed it (but maybe fell short of one Undo command or something). In general, I've started a list of issues to revisit when time permits, and figuring out what's going on with Dimension Pro is one of those (most of the others aren't related to SONAR at all). For now, though, much more pressing is getting my other apps and plug-ins back in shape, and I've got a boatload of plug-ins, even just among the ones I use frequently, no less all the rest. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
"Rick Paul" <> wrote in message news:... > Late yesterday afternoon I got around to installing SONAR 8.5 on my newly > upgraded 64-bit Windows 7 Professional system. > > When you install SONAR 8.5 (at least on a 64-bit system -- I don't recall if > this was true on 32-bit XP), it gives you the choice of installing the > 32-bit or 64-bit version. I kind of wish it had let me install both so I > could try them side by side to compare in the event of problems. I went > with the 64-bit version since going to 64-bit SONAR was my big reason for > going to 64-bit Windows in the first place. If that ends up being a big > problem once I get around to trying more things out, I guess I can always > revisit the choice. I should note that I have no clue if there is actually > the possibility of installing both side-by-side. The directory name used > and file name used for the 64-bit version has nothing in it to suggest a > 64-bit version, but maybe just specifying a different directory name would > be good enough to install the other version alongside it. Or maybe not. ;-) > > I did the custom installation so I could choose paths and which plug-ins I > want and don't want. I mostly choose all the plug-ins, but there are some > that aren't on by default that I want to have there and some that are on by > default that I don't want. Guitar Rig 3 LE is the main example of the > latter (since I have the full Guitar Rig 3 plug-in). There are a few of the > old Cakewalk plug-ins that are good examples of the former. > > One thing I noted in selecting plug-ins was there are a number that say > 32-bit only, but some of those were not automatically turned off for > installation in the 64-bit SONAR installation. For example, the > DSP-FX-based Fx-series plug-ins like FxReverb fit that description. This is > only applicable to DX and DXi plug-ins as BitBridge should take care of any > 32-bit VST and VSTi plug-ins. I was disappointed that DreamStation is on > the 32-bit only list, though I have plenty of options these days for the > sort of thing it does decently. It's kind of a bummer to not have the Fx > plug-ins, too, though I honestly haven't used them in some time now. (It > will be a bigger bummer to not be able to use the full DSP-FX suite, as > there are still one or two plug-ins there I use occasionally, and one I'd > been using in most of my projects.) I also noted stuff like QuickTime > import support was enabled by default, even though it says 32-bit only, so I > disabled that kind of stuff, too. > > This is the first time I've installed SONAR on a "fresh system" (i.e. in the > sense of having no user data to migrate) in ages, so I have to think about > what all my preference stuff was so I can set that back up. In general, the > installation went fine, then I had to tweak a few things to get to a > starting point, such as changing the default of WDM audio card support to > ASIO for my device's better drivers, resetting my audio and folder > preferences, etc. I also applied the 8.5.1 patch to get things up to date. > > I could not get the MP3 encoder authorization program to work. It told me > it couldn't find the shared utilities directory, so SONAR must not be > installed properly. Well, it was installed and it works, so I don't know > what gives with that. Something to revisit later... > > I loaded Beatscape next since that is on a separate DVD. I made a mistake > in telling it what VST directory to use (I'd changed the default so I can > get the Cakewalk plug-ins where I put the other ones, rather than having two > separate VST root directories), so I had to move that manually later when I > noticed it wasn't showing up in the plug-in list. Got that done and > working. Side note: Just playing with Beatscape a few minutes "to verify > its installation" reminded me how much fun that can be to play with. Still > don't know if/when I'll ever use it in a real song, though. > > Next up was Dimension Pro. I'd hoped there would be a way to just reinstall > the software without reinstalling the samples, since they were already on my > hard disk, but, if so, I didn't find it. So I decided to have the samples > go to a different directory since I was going through that anyway, then I > can clean up the original ones later. I was pleasantly surprised to see > that it is Dimension 1.2 that is shipping with SONAR 8.5's package with the > media, and it offered me the choice of installing the 64-bit or 32-bit > version. I went with 64-bit. After going through that installation and the > ones for extra libraries for that (both from the 4th SONAR 8.5 DVD and some > I have elsewhere), I was ready to try things out. It took a long time to > rebuild its database/screen, but that eventually came up for the DX version. > The VST version wasn't in the menu at all. I checked, and it was in the > right location, so I don't know why it wasn't there. So I decided I'd do my > usual trick of moving it out of the way, running SONAR again to refresh > things, then moving it back and running SONAR again to refresh things and > get it in there. That also didn't do it, but then I remember the tech note > on making 64-bit Dimension Pro work, and it specified doing some things as > admin, so I tried again, running SONAR as Administrator, and that got it in > the menu. Somewhere in the course of doing something, though -- and I may > have my order of events wrong above since it is from memory -- something got > messed up. At one point the VST version came up and loaded the patch list, > but now it won't load the VST version at all. Also, I hadn't tried last > night to actually load a patch, just to bring up the directory, and this > morning, when I tried loading patches, they were giving error messages about > not finding their samples. I think that in the course of moving the > Dimension Pro VST directory around I accidentally moved another Dimension > Pro directory. While I thought I did a Windows Explorer-level Undo enough > times to get back to where things were, it may be that I did not, or that I > messed something up as I'm not even sure how I moved the wrong directory in > the first place. Bottom line is I don't have Dimension Pro actually > functioning at the moment, and I'll have to troubleshoot that when I get a > chance. The DX version does load and shows its patch list, but the VST > version doesn't even load. > > This morning I used SONAR 8.5 to practice some new songs for the worship > band I play in at a local church. The routine there is to use a SONAR > project I have preconfigured with the most common instrument types I use and > a blank audio track. I drag an MP3 reference file of the song to the blank > audio track, set the focus on the instrument track with the instrument sound > I want to use for the song, then let the song play and play along. Because > I haven't installed my non-Cakewalk instruments yet, I used the 64-bit > version of TruePianos and a lame-assed organ sound from Roland GrooveSynth > (I was originally going to see if Dimension Pro had something for me there, > but got the sample errors I mentioned above). > > Lately I'd been setting latency for that practicing at 5-7 ms because, with > Outlook sitting in the background and running whatever else was going on > with my system drivers-wise and all, I'd get some crackling in something at > lower latencies. However, today I decided to go straight for 2 ms, which is > the lowest my card goes. It worked like a charm, even when I was playing > along with Windows Media Player with a complex visualization playing at one > point due to another problem I encountered (see below). Of course, there > isn't as much going on with my system now as on the XP system, so that may > be contributing, and I was using different instruments (e.g. TruePianos > versus Garritan Steinway, GrooveSynth versus B4II) or maybe Win7 x64 really > does have some performance benefits? I'll be watching this more as I get my > system back to its more normal state. > > The only other problem I had in the course of this is that, when I dragged > the MP3 file from one of the 5 songs I worked on from Explorer to the audio > track, it gave me an Out of Memory error message. I was most certainly not > out of memory, and I even tried stopping and restarting SONAR to make sure > there wasn't just some funky internal state. I tried the file repeatedly, > as well, to make sure there wasn't just some fluke, and other songs I > dragged over afterward worked fine, too, so there is obviously something > specific to the one MP3 file. That is when I just gave up on figuring it > out for now and played it in Windows Media Player. (All the files worked > fine there, so I knew the MP3 file was okay at that level.) I'll have to > look at that further once I have some other applications installed, for > example trying to read it into Sound Forge to see if that will handle it, > looking at any specific attributes of the file to try and narrow down why > it's not working. > > The problems with Dimension Pro also reminded me that I haven't loaded all > the other synths yet to see if they actually work on the new installation, > locate their patches, and so on. I did actually try most of the audio > plug-ins when going through to test things, and they were fine. I was > pleasantly surprised to see that most of the Cakewalk plug-ins that were on > my previous system from my 9 iterations of SONAR and one of ProAudio were > still there, even some of the older ones. The notable fallouts were the > above-mentioned Fx-series, the surround version of Lexicon Pantheon (not > sure when that was last included), the above-mentioned Dreamstation synth, > and the FX3 Soundstage plug-in. I was kind of bummed in principle on the > Soundstage thing in that I always thought that was a very promising plug-in, > but, in reality, I hadn't used it in ages anyway because I never much liked > the sound of it for ambience purposes. (It was never really part of SONAR > anyway, so I didn't really expect it would be there. I think I got it as > part of Cakewalk Pro Suite, which was an enhanced version of ProAudio 9. > However, with the 64-bit stuff, and that being a 32-bit DX plug-in, it might > have been nice if there were a 64-bit version available. It's really too > bad Cakewalk never did anything further with that, because the idea of being > able to localize things visually is really cool, and a lot of work goes into > trying to do that aurally with other tools.) > > Oh yeah, and the other notable thing that isn't there (and wouldn't be from > just installing SONAR 8.5) is the Timeworks plug-ins that were in SONAR 2 > XL, namely CompressorX and Equalizer. Those were ones that made it worth > going back to the SONAR 2 disc to get them, but their being 32-bit DX means > they won't work on 64-bit SONAR, so there is no point now. Bummer. There > are a few others in a similar category of one-time inclusions, like Tassman, > LiveSynth Pro, VSampler, and probably one or two others I'm forgetting -- oh > yeah, Revalver. But CompressorX and the Timeworks Equalizer were really the > only ones I was still using with any regularity. (I think I also have the > VST version of DR-008, but I haven't used that in awhile, so may not even > reinstall it.) > > I've got a few more office-oriented applications I want to get out of the > way before I focus on more plug-ins. I just needed enough of SONAR working > to do my practicing this morning. But I should be getting back to > installing my high priority plug-ins in the fairly near future, probably > starting later tonight or tomorrow. Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing window and just sit at a piano . Poly
"polymod" <> wrote in message news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$... > Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing window > and just sit at a piano . LOL. I do that every day. It's funny how an instrument we've been playing for decades can still be the favorite over all the new-fangled toys. Wouldn't want to record my piano, though, so the toys win out when it comes to that side of things. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
In news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$ the killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing > window and just sit at a piano Ok, but no off the cuff jamming! You have to read pages and pages of sheet music to offset Rick's pages and pages of post! -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
In news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$ the killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing > window and just sit at a piano . Ok, but no off the cuff jamming! You have to read pages and pages of sheet music to offset Rick's pages and pages of post! -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
> > I could not get the MP3 encoder authorization program to work. It told me > it couldn't find the shared utilities directory, so SONAR must not be > installed properly. Well, it was installed and it works, so I don't know > what gives with that. Something to revisit later... Hi Rick- I went through that with Vista 64 and Sonar8 x64 and trying to get the mp3 encoder to work. I contacted Cakewalk through their online support and they sent me a link for a download that fixes the authorization problem. No problems after that MICHAEL FANNING, http://www.soundclick.com/michaelfanning
"Rick Paul" <> wrote in message news:... > "polymod" <> wrote in message > news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$... > > Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing window > > and just sit at a piano . > > LOL. I do that every day. It's funny how an instrument we've been playing > for decades can still be the favorite over all the new-fangled toys. Wouldn't > want to record my piano, though, so the toys win out when it comes to that > side of things. Well, if I had it my way, I'd run a couple of mics to my living room and record nothing but acoustic piano tracks for the rest of my life. But I got some test recordings to do in Reaper first<VBG> Poly
"polymod" <> wrote in message news:4ae9de53$0$4993$... > "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message > news:... >> "polymod" <> wrote in message >> news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$... >> > Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing > window >> > and just sit at a piano . >> >> LOL. I do that every day. It's funny how an instrument we've been > playing >> for decades can still be the favorite over all the new-fangled toys. > Wouldn't >> want to record my piano, though, so the toys win out when it comes to >> that >> side of things. > > Well, if I had it my way, I'd run a couple of mics to my living room and > record nothing but acoustic piano tracks for the rest of my life. Your piano and living room are obviously better sounding than mine. I did try recording my piano once (not in my living room, because it was back a quarter of a century ago when I lived in a condo in San Jose), and stuff like pedal squeaks, bench squeaks, the generally non-optimal sound of a spinet piano, etc., not to mention the "ambience" of a small bedroom, just didn't deliver the same experience on a recording as it felt in the room while playing. Of course, that was also back when I only had an 8-track reel-to-reel recorder, and the mics had a lot of self-noise, too. Still, I'll take my Garritan Steinway for recording over my 1940-something Story & Clark spinet any day. But I'll play the old spinet over any electronic piano recreation any day, too. There's just something about a massive hunk of mahogany, real strings, and ebony and ivory. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
I thought Outhouse Express was the only thing that sent double posts.<g> "Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9CB38A2D979B7BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.213... > In news:4ae9be7b$0$4983$ the killer robot "polymod" > <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> Cripes, this post makes me want to throw everything out the ****ing >> window and just sit at a piano . > > Ok, but no off the cuff jamming! You have to read pages and pages > of sheet music to offset Rick's pages and pages of post! > > -- > Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email > ________ __ > / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ > / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ > / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / > \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo > Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits > Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
In news:d848d$4aea0b02$62143331$ the killer robot "sambodidley" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > I thought Outhouse Express was the only thing that sent double posts.<g> Check the post times. Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) *I* sent the second one because the first one didn't show up for over thirty minutes, so I sent the second one 23 minutes later, which also didn't show up till over thirty minutes later. This dup post was the result of a server hiccup, that made me think the first one was not going to post. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Glennbo wrote: > In news:d848d$4aea0b02$62143331$ the killer robot > "sambodidley" <> grabbed the controls of the > spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> I thought Outhouse Express was the only thing that sent double posts.<g> > > Check the post times. > > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) > > *I* sent the second one because the first one didn't show up for over > thirty minutes, so I sent the second one 23 minutes later, which also > didn't show up till over thirty minutes later. This dup post was the > result of a server hiccup, that made me think the first one was not going > to post. > sure, pal. xnews has *nothing* to do with it ... sure ... you'd like to think so!!!
In news:hcd3g5$liq$-september.org the killer robot BobF <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>> I thought Outhouse Express was the only thing that sent double >>> posts.<g> >> >> Check the post times. >> >> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:12:06 +0000 (UTC) >> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:35:07 +0000 (UTC) >> >> *I* sent the second one because the first one didn't show up for over >> thirty minutes, so I sent the second one 23 minutes later, which also >> didn't show up till over thirty minutes later. This dup post was the >> result of a server hiccup, that made me think the first one was not >> going to post. >> > > sure, pal. xnews has *nothing* to do with it ... sure ... you'd like > to think so!!! Xnews can do no wron+++ATH+++ >>>NO CARRIER<<< -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Hey BobF what do you expect from the guy who isn't who he says he is? -- Sue Morton Glennbo wrote: > BobF wroet: >> sure, pal. xnews has *nothing* to do with it ... sure ... you'd like >> to think so!!! > > Xnews can do no wron+++ATH+++ >>>NO CARRIER<<<
Sue Morton wrote: > Hey BobF what do you expect from the guy who isn't who he says he is? Those darned expectations keep getting in the way
In news:hcd59a$bav$-september.org the killer robot "Sue Morton" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>> sure, pal. xnews has *nothing* to do with it ... sure ... you'd like >>> to think so!!! >> >> Xnews can do no wron+++ATH+++ >>>NO CARRIER<<< > Hey BobF what do you expect from the guy who isn't who he says he is? It's like that Star Trek episode where Kirk says "everything Spock says is a lie". Then Spock says "I'm lying" and all the robots begin to short out. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Rick Paul wrote: > "kitekrazy" <> wrote in message > news:hcb38a$u37$-september.org... >> kitekrazy wrote: >>> Yes you can. All 32 bit apps intall in a program files x86 folder. >>> The only pain is installing the various Vsts. They also have separate >>> folders. Plus Cakes VST scanner sucks compared to Reaper and FL. >> BTW, stay away from trying to install Dimension Pro as 64 bit. I've had >> nothing but problems. > > Thanks for the info. I'll revisit the 32-bit SONAR at some point in the > future if I end up having issues I suspect may be 64-bit specific or need to > have the 32-bit version around for some specific needs. > > As for Dimension Pro, what sort of issues are you having? I'm wondering if > they are the same sort of things I've been seeing with the VST version not > loading at all at the moment and the DX version not being able to find its > samples. I *think* those issues are probably due to user errors on my part > as I did do some kind of strange folder move thing that I still don't > understand how I did in the first place (best I can guess is I was confusing > the software folder with a folder of the same name under the VST structure, > perhaps due to not being used to the different look of Windows Explorer in > Win7) and thought I'd reversed it (but maybe fell short of one Undo command > or something). > > In general, I've started a list of issues to revisit when time permits, and > figuring out what's going on with Dimension Pro is one of those (most of the > others aren't related to SONAR at all). For now, though, much more pressing > is getting my other apps and plug-ins back in shape, and I've got a boatload > of plug-ins, even just among the ones I use frequently, no less all the > rest. > > Rick > First off Cake needs to create a seperate 64 bit install for it. Their way of updating it is really half assed. The updater still installs the DP files in 32 bit Sonar. That's the wrong way to do it. Personally I hate installers for plugins. They should just have a zip file. Plus their installers need to be redone since the 64 bit VSTs get installed in the same directory as the 32 bit. NI and Garritan put them separately. Pretty half assed for a company that has been making 64 bit apps for awhile. I just have to be careful which DP I select in Sonar. One causes it to crash needing a reboot.
