I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio tracks. My target objective is creation of stereo recordings for CD, in which a specific vocal part (DXi synth track, or audio source track) is panned full left, and the remainder of tracks are panned full right. For example, if a project is SATB plus accompaniment, I will create four output recordings: a) Soprano is panned left and all other tracks right, b) Alto is the one panned left, while Soprano and all other tracks are panned right, c) Tenor panned left and others right, d) Bass panned left and others right. If there are solos that will be additional recordings for the soloists. My other objective is to keep the original tracks (specifically MIDI) feeding the end product (e.g. no bounce) so if I want to make any changes to the midi data I don't have to change anything else. I have been able to make this fairly easy to achieve, but it is repetitive. I have busses for solo (panned left), left (panned left), right (panned right), accomp (panned right), and main (panned center, all other busses come here). There are various plugs attached to each of these busses. To create an output stereo recording, I'll change the part's DXi or audio track to point to either "solo" or "left" buss as appropriate, point the rest to "right" buss (accomp always pointed to "accomp" buss), and export the audio. Then swap the part that points to the "left" buss, others going to "right", and repeat. Four times for SATB (more if there are solos). Then repeat the entire process for each song the choir is doing. :-( Since I have to go through the above steps once, it is of course not an issue as long as I only have to do it once. But usually I want to change something global to all recordings (plugs on busses, change a MIDI track, etc.) and then the above steps must all be repeated for the song. Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful for this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by approaching this problem in a completely different way. Sorry for (typical) long post. And thanks as always for ideas, -- Sue Morton
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:59:16 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: > I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community > Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio tracks. > Sue - You aren't being ignored. I'm thinking this one through to see if I can come up with some good ideas for you.
In news:U_nbf.13625$ the killer robot "Sue Morton" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful > for this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. > > I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by > approaching this problem in a completely different way. Are the tracks always laid out the same? I've taken whole songs and dumped them into another song's emptied skeleton before, to get things routed and assigned the way they were in the other song. IIRC, I loaded up the song I wanted to move to a different layout, selected all and then cut. Then I loaded up the song I wanted to use as a model, selected all and hit delete (which keeps from re-writing the paste buffer), then slected track one and did a paste. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ ____ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
"BobF" <> wrote in message news:32i9bfwt3v06$.15ukdohizuv4l$... > On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:59:16 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: > >> I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community >> Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >> tracks. >> > > Sue - You aren't being ignored. I'm thinking this one through to see if I > can come up with some good ideas for you. Yeah, I was wanting to help too but my brain is just way too foggy this morning. I'll try to check back later.
Hi Sue- If I'm understanding what you're after (big if), would this help........? Setup a template with 4 buses and 20 tracks, like this: Make 3 Clone copies of the accompaniment track (less the SATB parts). Route the 4 accompaniment tracks to Bus 1, 2, 3, & 4. (Below I'm calling these trax 1 - 4). Make 3 Clone copies of each of the SATB parts, panning one Left (to its dedicated bus) & three Right, each routed to the remaining four buses. Your routing will look like this: Bus 1: Left = Sop1; Right = Alto1, Tenor1, Bass1 + trax 1 Bus 2: Left = Alto2; Right = Sop2, Tenor2, Bass2 + trax 2 Bus 3: Left = Tenor3; Right = Sop3, Alto3, Bass3 + trax 3 Bus 4: Left = Bass4; Right = Sop4, Alto4, Tenor4 + trax 4 Once you have the SATB parts ready, you clone them, drop them into the template. Highlight ALL tracks and you should be able to execute 1 export command (exporting from buses) to get the 4 stereo mixes. Use the same template for each song! I'm at home, so I'm not in front of Sonar to check my accuracy. I hope it helps & makes sense! regards, greg "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:U_nbf.13625$... >I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community >Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >tracks. > > My target objective is creation of stereo recordings for CD, in which a > specific vocal part (DXi synth track, or audio source track) is panned > full left, and the remainder of tracks are panned full right. For > example, if a project is SATB plus accompaniment, I will create four > output recordings: a) Soprano is panned left and all other tracks right, > b) Alto is the one panned left, while Soprano and all other tracks are > panned right, c) Tenor panned left and others right, d) Bass panned left > and others right. If there are solos that will be additional recordings > for the soloists. > > My other objective is to keep the original tracks (specifically MIDI) > feeding the end product (e.g. no bounce) so if I want to make any changes > to the midi data I don't have to change anything else. > > I have been able to make this fairly easy to achieve, but it is > repetitive. I have busses for solo (panned left), left (panned left), > right (panned right), accomp (panned right), and main (panned center, all > other busses come here). There are various plugs attached to each of > these busses. > > To create an output stereo recording, I'll change the part's DXi or audio > track to point to either "solo" or "left" buss as appropriate, point the > rest to "right" buss (accomp always pointed to "accomp" buss), and export > the audio. Then swap the part that points to the "left" buss, others > going to "right", and repeat. Four times for SATB (more if there are > solos). > > Then repeat the entire process for each song the choir is doing. :-( > > Since I have to go through the above steps once, it is of course not an > issue as long as I only have to do it once. But usually I want to change > something global to all recordings (plugs on busses, change a MIDI track, > etc.) and then the above steps must all be repeated for the song. > > Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful for > this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. > > I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by approaching > this problem in a completely different way. > > Sorry for (typical) long post. And thanks as always for ideas, > -- > Sue Morton > >
I have a template I set up, that has everything ready to go for the FIRST time through, so pasting in new MIDI tracks (yes, they are almost always the same layout - SATB) is a piece of cake. I think Greg has the (an) answer, better than what I'm doing... see that leg of this thread. Thanks for the reply, -- Sue Morton "Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9706839CB538CBrownShoesDontMakeIt@70.168.83.30... > In news:U_nbf.13625$ the killer robot > "Sue Morton" <> grabbed the controls of the > spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >> Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful >> for this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. >> >> I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by >> approaching this problem in a completely different way. > > Are the tracks always laid out the same? I've taken whole songs and > dumped > them into another song's emptied skeleton before, to get things routed and > assigned the way they were in the other song. IIRC, I loaded up the song > I > wanted to move to a different layout, selected all and then cut. Then I > loaded up the song I wanted to use as a model, selected all and hit delete > (which keeps from re-writing the paste buffer), then slected track one and > did a paste. > > -- > Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email > ________ ____ > / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ > / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ > / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / > \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo > Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits > Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
I'm fuzzy these days myself, I'm way way overcomitted right now (can someone arrange for 32 hours in a day, please?). Greg has got a good answer to my inquiry. Thanks Ricky, -- Sue Morton "Ricky Hunt" <> wrote in message news:smtbf.526149$_o.482701@attbi_s71... > "BobF" <> wrote in message > news:32i9bfwt3v06$.15ukdohizuv4l$... >> On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:59:16 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: >> >>> I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my >>> community >>> Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >>> tracks. >>> >> >> Sue - You aren't being ignored. I'm thinking this one through to see if >> I >> can come up with some good ideas for you. > > Yeah, I was wanting to help too but my brain is just way too foggy this > morning. I'll try to check back later. >
Yes, you understand me, thanks! I already have a template set up for the initial routing I'm using, it's a piece of cake to drop the midi tracks into that template. Changing to this kind of template should be fine. I'm trying it out right now. I see I have to clone all the DXi tracks as well as the MIDI tracks, each MIDI is routed to a DXi then the DXi is sent to the buss. (Too bad a DXi isn't just a characteristic of a MIDI track, instead of being a track in its own right.) Still, a template with this setup could prove to be better than what I'm doing. I'll continue to check it out. Thanks Greg! -- Sue Morton "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message news:... > Hi Sue- > > If I'm understanding what you're after (big if), would this help........? > > Setup a template with 4 buses and 20 tracks, like this: > > Make 3 Clone copies of the accompaniment track (less the SATB parts). > Route the 4 accompaniment tracks to Bus 1, 2, 3, & 4. (Below I'm calling > these trax 1 - 4). Make 3 Clone copies of each of the SATB parts, panning > one Left (to its dedicated bus) & three Right, each routed to the > remaining four buses. Your routing will look like this: > > Bus 1: Left = Sop1; Right = Alto1, Tenor1, Bass1 + trax 1 > Bus 2: Left = Alto2; Right = Sop2, Tenor2, Bass2 + trax 2 > Bus 3: Left = Tenor3; Right = Sop3, Alto3, Bass3 + trax 3 > Bus 4: Left = Bass4; Right = Sop4, Alto4, Tenor4 + trax 4 > > Once you have the SATB parts ready, you clone them, drop them into the > template. Highlight ALL tracks and you should be able to execute 1 export > command (exporting from buses) to get the 4 stereo mixes. Use the same > template for each song! > > I'm at home, so I'm not in front of Sonar to check my accuracy. I hope it > helps & makes sense! > > regards, > > greg > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message > news:U_nbf.13625$... >>I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community >>Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >>tracks. >> >> My target objective is creation of stereo recordings for CD, in which a >> specific vocal part (DXi synth track, or audio source track) is panned >> full left, and the remainder of tracks are panned full right. For >> example, if a project is SATB plus accompaniment, I will create four >> output recordings: a) Soprano is panned left and all other tracks right, >> b) Alto is the one panned left, while Soprano and all other tracks are >> panned right, c) Tenor panned left and others right, d) Bass panned left >> and others right. If there are solos that will be additional recordings >> for the soloists. >> >> My other objective is to keep the original tracks (specifically MIDI) >> feeding the end product (e.g. no bounce) so if I want to make any changes >> to the midi data I don't have to change anything else. >> >> I have been able to make this fairly easy to achieve, but it is >> repetitive. I have busses for solo (panned left), left (panned left), >> right (panned right), accomp (panned right), and main (panned center, all >> other busses come here). There are various plugs attached to each of >> these busses. >> >> To create an output stereo recording, I'll change the part's DXi or audio >> track to point to either "solo" or "left" buss as appropriate, point the >> rest to "right" buss (accomp always pointed to "accomp" buss), and export >> the audio. Then swap the part that points to the "left" buss, others >> going to "right", and repeat. Four times for SATB (more if there are >> solos). >> >> Then repeat the entire process for each song the choir is doing. :-( >> >> Since I have to go through the above steps once, it is of course not an >> issue as long as I only have to do it once. But usually I want to change >> something global to all recordings (plugs on busses, change a MIDI track, >> etc.) and then the above steps must all be repeated for the song. >> >> Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful for >> this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. >> >> I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by approaching >> this problem in a completely different way. >> >> Sorry for (typical) long post. And thanks as always for ideas, >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> > >
Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, I'll be anxious to hear how it works. greg "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:MJybf.25094$... > Yes, you understand me, thanks! I already have a template set up for the > initial routing I'm using, it's a piece of cake to drop the midi tracks > into that template. Changing to this kind of template should be fine. > > I'm trying it out right now. I see I have to clone all the DXi tracks as > well as the MIDI tracks, each MIDI is routed to a DXi then the DXi is sent > to the buss. (Too bad a DXi isn't just a characteristic of a MIDI track, > instead of being a track in its own right.) > > Still, a template with this setup could prove to be better than what I'm > doing. I'll continue to check it out. Thanks Greg! > -- > Sue Morton > > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Hi Sue- >> >> If I'm understanding what you're after (big if), would this help........? >> >> Setup a template with 4 buses and 20 tracks, like this: >> >> Make 3 Clone copies of the accompaniment track (less the SATB parts). >> Route the 4 accompaniment tracks to Bus 1, 2, 3, & 4. (Below I'm calling >> these trax 1 - 4). Make 3 Clone copies of each of the SATB parts, >> panning one Left (to its dedicated bus) & three Right, each routed to the >> remaining four buses. Your routing will look like this: >> >> Bus 1: Left = Sop1; Right = Alto1, Tenor1, Bass1 + trax 1 >> Bus 2: Left = Alto2; Right = Sop2, Tenor2, Bass2 + trax 2 >> Bus 3: Left = Tenor3; Right = Sop3, Alto3, Bass3 + trax 3 >> Bus 4: Left = Bass4; Right = Sop4, Alto4, Tenor4 + trax 4 >> >> Once you have the SATB parts ready, you clone them, drop them into the >> template. Highlight ALL tracks and you should be able to execute 1 >> export command (exporting from buses) to get the 4 stereo mixes. Use the >> same template for each song! >> >> I'm at home, so I'm not in front of Sonar to check my accuracy. I hope >> it helps & makes sense! >> >> regards, >> >> greg >> >> "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message >> news:U_nbf.13625$... >>>I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community >>>Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >>>tracks. >>> >>> My target objective is creation of stereo recordings for CD, in which a >>> specific vocal part (DXi synth track, or audio source track) is panned >>> full left, and the remainder of tracks are panned full right. For >>> example, if a project is SATB plus accompaniment, I will create four >>> output recordings: a) Soprano is panned left and all other tracks right, >>> b) Alto is the one panned left, while Soprano and all other tracks are >>> panned right, c) Tenor panned left and others right, d) Bass panned left >>> and others right. If there are solos that will be additional recordings >>> for the soloists. >>> >>> My other objective is to keep the original tracks (specifically MIDI) >>> feeding the end product (e.g. no bounce) so if I want to make any >>> changes to the midi data I don't have to change anything else. >>> >>> I have been able to make this fairly easy to achieve, but it is >>> repetitive. I have busses for solo (panned left), left (panned left), >>> right (panned right), accomp (panned right), and main (panned center, >>> all other busses come here). There are various plugs attached to each >>> of these busses. >>> >>> To create an output stereo recording, I'll change the part's DXi or >>> audio track to point to either "solo" or "left" buss as appropriate, >>> point the rest to "right" buss (accomp always pointed to "accomp" buss), >>> and export the audio. Then swap the part that points to the "left" >>> buss, others going to "right", and repeat. Four times for SATB (more if >>> there are solos). >>> >>> Then repeat the entire process for each song the choir is doing. :-( >>> >>> Since I have to go through the above steps once, it is of course not an >>> issue as long as I only have to do it once. But usually I want to >>> change something global to all recordings (plugs on busses, change a >>> MIDI track, etc.) and then the above steps must all be repeated for the >>> song. >>> >>> Is there a way to save 'presets' of routings? Would a CAL be useful for >>> this? I think I'm stuck with the work, but thought I'd ask. >>> >>> I'm also open to ideas on how to acheive my target results by >>> approaching this problem in a completely different way. >>> >>> Sorry for (typical) long post. And thanks as always for ideas, >>> -- >>> Sue Morton >>> >>> >> >> > >
I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, at the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could manipulate the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to each MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will look at that! Thanks very much for the ideas. -- Sue Morton "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message news:... > Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use > mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, > I'll be anxious to hear how it works. > > greg
Thanks BobF! Greg posted a good idea, I have to work with it a little bit due to the way I use DXi's, but I might still end up better off than my current way of doing this. Ideas still welcome, though! Thanks much. -- Sue Morton "BobF" <> wrote in message news:32i9bfwt3v06$.15ukdohizuv4l$... > On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:59:16 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: > >> I am working on my annual creation of vocal practice CDs for my community >> Christmas choir, using Sonar with MIDI into DXi synths, and/or audio >> tracks. >> > > Sue - You aren't being ignored. I'm thinking this one through to see if I > can come up with some good ideas for you.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:41:52 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: > Thanks BobF! Greg posted a good idea, I have to work with it a little bit > due to the way I use DXi's, but I might still end up better off than my > current way of doing this. > > Ideas still welcome, though! Thanks much. Sue, I've only done basic testing with this, but here's an idea ... Copy the .cwp file via explorer. For example, I used a basic project with a coupla' tracks and copied project.cwp to project_alt.cwp. I opened project_alt.cwp, added a bus, changed panning around and changed routing for one of the tracks to the new bus. I opened the original and all is as it was prior to making changes in the 'alt' version. So the result is two different "snapshots" of the project. If you perform track data edits, you *should* be able to copy/paste the modified events/clips between them (I'm pretty sure MIDI is stored in the ..cwp). This *might* be less work than redoing all of your routing/panning. Especially if you do this -late- in the project. Or, this might be a really wack idea that you should completely ignore!
Hi BobF, This is an interesting idea! I'll be working with Sonar5 later this evening, I'll check this out. >>>> Or, this might be a really wack idea that you should completely ignore! LOL I'll let you know. -- Sue Morton "BobF" <> wrote in message news:7u6cqfav8s0f$.kske8y3h2qlr$... > On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:41:52 GMT, Sue Morton wrote: > >> Thanks BobF! Greg posted a good idea, I have to work with it a little >> bit >> due to the way I use DXi's, but I might still end up better off than my >> current way of doing this. >> >> Ideas still welcome, though! Thanks much. > > Sue, > > I've only done basic testing with this, but here's an idea ... > > Copy the .cwp file via explorer. For example, I used a basic project with > a coupla' tracks and copied project.cwp to project_alt.cwp. > > I opened project_alt.cwp, added a bus, changed panning around and changed > routing for one of the tracks to the new bus. I opened the original and > all is as it was prior to making changes in the 'alt' version. > > So the result is two different "snapshots" of the project. > > If you perform track data edits, you *should* be able to copy/paste the > modified events/clips between them (I'm pretty sure MIDI is stored in the > .cwp). This *might* be less work than redoing all of your > routing/panning. > Especially if you do this -late- in the project. > > Or, this might be a really wack idea that you should completely ignore!
Wow sounds like Greg already got this one. Never used cloned tracks much, but in this instance it seems to be perfect. What are you guys doing this Christmas? Max Arwood "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:ZmIbf.13981$... > I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, at > the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could manipulate > the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was > available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to each > MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will > look at that! > > Thanks very much for the ideas. > -- > Sue Morton > > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message > news:... > > Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use > > mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, > > I'll be anxious to hear how it works. > > > > greg > >
Hi Max, This year we will do four numbers (not necessarily in this order) 1) One Small Child (David Meece) - soft and gentle, has alto soloist 2) Peace, Peace (1969 original melody with 'Silent Night' woven through it) - an "all skate now" upbeat cutesy tune, a charmer 3) There's Somethin' Goin' on in Bethlehem (Joel Lindsay) - adorable soft rock/Jazz (tune won't leave your head for days!) 4) 2000 Decembers Ago/What Child is This medley (arr. Russell Mauldin) - great contemporary medley with a big ending, this will almost certainly be the last number I have nearly everyone back from last year, I lost only a few people due to vacations or big committments at the time we will sing. It will be really great to have the same crew back this year. I hope we can pick up more than a few new participants, too. -- Sue Morton "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message news:wfPbf.14269$... > Wow sounds like Greg already got this one. Never used cloned tracks much, > but in this instance it seems to be perfect. What are you guys doing this > Christmas? > Max Arwood > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message > news:ZmIbf.13981$... >> I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, >> at >> the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could > manipulate >> the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was >> available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to > each >> MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will >> look at that! >> >> Thanks very much for the ideas. >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message >> news:... >> > Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to >> > use >> > mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either >> > way, >> > I'll be anxious to hear how it works. >> > >> > greg >> >> > >
> Thanks very much for the ideas. ya know what's ironic about this whole thread is that I often have to do the same thing for my worship team - make work CDs of harmony parts, with parts on one side & the track on the other. I've never used the method I suggested to you, 'cause I never took the time to think through the workflow. Now that you posed the question & I thought through a possible solution, I may have saved myself some time next time I have to do this (which will probably be soon since I'm also preparing our Christmas program). greg "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:ZmIbf.13981$... >I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, at >the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could manipulate >the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was >available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to each >MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will >look at that! > > Thanks very much for the ideas. > -- > Sue Morton > > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use >> mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, >> I'll be anxious to hear how it works. >> >> greg > >
Thanks, I'm also preparing our Christmas program. What are you doing? Max Arwood "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message news:... > > Thanks very much for the ideas. > > ya know what's ironic about this whole thread is that I often have to do the > same thing for my worship team - make work CDs of harmony parts, with parts > on one side & the track on the other. I've never used the method I > suggested to you, 'cause I never took the time to think through the > workflow. Now that you posed the question & I thought through a possible > solution, I may have saved myself some time next time I have to do this > (which will probably be soon since I'm also preparing our Christmas > program). > > greg > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message > news:ZmIbf.13981$... > >I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, at > >the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could manipulate > >the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was > >available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to each > >MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will > >look at that! > > > > Thanks very much for the ideas. > > -- > > Sue Morton > > > > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message > > news:... > >> Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use > >> mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, > >> I'll be anxious to hear how it works. > >> > >> greg > > > > > >
I've got a few custom arrangements of some standard stuff - We Three Kings, O Come O Come Emmanuel & Do You Hear What I Hear. We're also going to do a few things with the iWorship Christmas stuff from Integrity - it'll be a full praise team and chancel choir playing along with video. Should be fun. greg "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message news:2qYbf.9746$... > Thanks, > I'm also preparing our Christmas program. What are you doing? > Max Arwood > > > > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message > news:... >> > Thanks very much for the ideas. >> >> ya know what's ironic about this whole thread is that I often have to do > the >> same thing for my worship team - make work CDs of harmony parts, with > parts >> on one side & the track on the other. I've never used the method I >> suggested to you, 'cause I never took the time to think through the >> workflow. Now that you posed the question & I thought through a possible >> solution, I may have saved myself some time next time I have to do this >> (which will probably be soon since I'm also preparing our Christmas >> program). >> >> greg >> >> "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message >> news:ZmIbf.13981$... >> >I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, > at >> >the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could > manipulate >> >the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss routing was >> >available. So my template currently has a single instance of a DXi to > each >> >MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple outs, so I will >> >look at that! >> > >> > Thanks very much for the ideas. >> > -- >> > Sue Morton >> > >> > "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in >> > message >> > news:... >> >> Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to > use >> >> mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either > way, >> >> I'll be anxious to hear how it works. >> >> >> >> greg >> > >> > >> >> > >
Hi Greg, I've tried all the suggestions, it's the midi/DXi's that bung things up. The suggestions work... but my original setup is simpler and (for me anyway) still the easiest to manage. I can look at a project, and see only one copy of each midi/DXi pair, one of each of the busses (solo, left, right, etc.), and in a few mouse clicks switch the routings to output the left/right mix that I want. A few more mouse clicks and output the next left/right mix, and so on. Very repetitive, true. But I just opened a project from a couple of years ago to reuse again this year, and it was instantly obvious to me, what goes where and what to do. Without having to remember anything (e.g. did I remember to clone that midi after changing it????). What I really need is for Sonar to have multiple outputs from a track or buss, then it would be a piece o' cake! Have you started working on this, yet? If so, what are you finding with it? -- Sue Morton "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message news:... >> Thanks very much for the ideas. > > ya know what's ironic about this whole thread is that I often have to do > the same thing for my worship team - make work CDs of harmony parts, with > parts on one side & the track on the other. I've never used the method I > suggested to you, 'cause I never took the time to think through the > workflow. Now that you posed the question & I thought through a possible > solution, I may have saved myself some time next time I have to do this > (which will probably be soon since I'm also preparing our Christmas > program). > > greg > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message > news:ZmIbf.13981$... >>I played a bit with the multiple-out feature of the DXi's a while back, at >>the time I didn't like it because of restrictions in how I could >>manipulate the output. But that was probably before the flexible buss >>routing was available. So my template currently has a single instance of >>a DXi to each MIDI track. But now I'm thinking I can use the multiple >>outs, so I will look at that! >> >> Thanks very much for the ideas. >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> "Greg McGuirk" <> wrote in message >> news:... >>> Is your DXi a multi-timbral / multi out instrument or do you have to use >>> mulitple instances? the latter would be a bit of a bummer. Either way, >>> I'll be anxious to hear how it works. >>> >>> greg >> >> > >
