Hi people I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of the drive that I'll be buying? Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it the best option? Cheers Steve
In news:i9ha4m$p9n$ the killer robot "Steve Corr" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in > the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding > internal or external? If it's a drive to be used for backing up, I'd definately get an external. The idea being for one, that it's not connected to your computer when it gets struck by lightning, or whatever causes the main drive to fail. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" drives. I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic box and bundle them with junkware. For the last few yrs. I've always got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 and mount a WDC "Black" in it. S "Steve Corr" <> wrote in message news:i9ha4m$p9n$... > Hi people > I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? > What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option > should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. > > My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 > and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. > Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of the drive that I'll be buying? > Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? > I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 > (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) > > The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it the best option? > > Cheers > Steve
"Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... > I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" > drives. > I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw > drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic > box and bundle them with junkware. > > For the last few yrs. I've always got: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 > > and mount a WDC "Black" in it. > > S > > > > > > "Steve Corr" <> wrote in message > news:i9ha4m$p9n$... >> Hi people >> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the >> tooth and I need to back up more stuff. >> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding >> internal or external? >> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the >> drive but would like to have that as an option >> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. >> >> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is >> Sata-11 >> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. >> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of >> the drive that I'll be buying? >> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with >> another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? >> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 >> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) >> >> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it >> the best option? >> >> Cheers >> Steve I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some of those boxes are drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. I lost one good drive in one of them and was about to lose another. I have several SATA drives and just plug them in the dock when I need one. <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066>
"sambodidley" <> wrote in message news:89293$4cbe0e2f$438d47fe$... > > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... >> I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" drives. >> I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic >> box and bundle them with junkware. >> >> For the last few yrs. I've always got: >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 >> >> and mount a WDC "Black" in it. >> >> S >> >> >> >> >> >> "Steve Corr" <> wrote in message news:i9ha4m$p9n$... >>> Hi people >>> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. >>> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? >>> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option >>> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. >>> >>> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 >>> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. >>> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of the drive that I'll be buying? >>> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? >>> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 >>> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) >>> >>> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it the best option? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Steve > > I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some > of those boxes are drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. I lost one good drive in one of them and was about to lose > another. I have several SATA drives and just plug them in the dock when I need one. > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066> That's a nice idea ... especially the quick swap part of it. One of the reasons I picked the one I linked to is that it has a nice big fan that is also very quiet. S
On 20 Oct, 08:45, "Steve_Karl" <> wrote: > "sambodidley" <> wrote in messagenews:89293$4cbe0e2f$438d47fe$... > > > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in messagenews:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... > >> I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up"drives. > >> I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic > >> box and bundle them with junkware. > > >> For the last few yrs. I've always got: > >>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 > > >> and mount a WDC "Black" in it. > > >> S > > >> "Steve Corr" <> wrote in messagenews:i9ha4m$p9n$... > >>> Hi people > >>> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > >>> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? > >>> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option > >>> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. > > >>> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 > >>> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. > >>> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speedof the drive that I'll be buying? > >>> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? > >>> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 > >>> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) > > >>> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but isit the best option? > > >>> Cheers > >>> Steve > > > I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some > > of those boxes are drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. Ilost one good drive in one of them and was about to lose > > another. I have several SATA drives and just plug them in the dock whenI need one. > > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066> > > That's a nice idea ... especially the quick swap part of it. > > One of the reasons I picked the one I linked to is that it has a nice bigfan that is also very quiet. > > S I must admit GB, lightning wasn't top of my list of reasons for preferring an external drive, I mean.........what are the chances eh? Guess that can depend on where in the world you live. Steve
On 19 Oct, 21:43, "Steve_Karl" <> wrote: > I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" drives. > I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic > box and bundle them with junkware. > > For the last few yrs. I've always got:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 > > and mount a WDC "Black" in it. > > S > > "Steve Corr" <> wrote in messagenews:i9ha4m$p9n$... > > Hi people > > I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > > First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? > > What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option > > should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. > > > My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 > > and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. > > Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of the drive that I'll be buying? > > Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? > > I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 > > (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) > > > The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it the best option? > > > Cheers > > Steve So you think those western digital mybooks are the lower end of their product range? I mean the one I have is very quiet and well ventilated and has been pretty good but it's getting pretty full and they all have a limited shelf life so it might be time I got another.
On 19 Oct, 22:27, "sambodidley" <> wrote: > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message > > news:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... > > > > > I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" > > drives. > > I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw > > drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic > > box and bundle them with junkware. > > > For the last few yrs. I've always got: > >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 > > > and mount a WDC "Black" in it. > > > S > > > "Steve Corr" <> wrote in message > >news:i9ha4m$p9n$... > >> Hi people > >> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the > >> tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > >> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding > >> internal or external? > >> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the > >> drive but would like to have that as an option > >> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. > > >> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is > >> Sata-11 > >> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. > >> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of > >> the drive that I'll be buying? > >> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with > >> another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? > >> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 > >> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) > > >> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it > >> the best option? > > >> Cheers > >> Steve > > I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. > The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some of those boxes are > drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. I lost one good drive in > one of them and was about to lose another. I have several SATA drives and > just plug them in the dock when I need one. > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066> Yeah I have seen these and wondered if they might be an option. The only obvious weakness to me was they might be a bit vulnerable as they are unprotected but then I have neither cat nor dog nor children so that would just leave me as the likely blunderer who would spill tea all over it. As far as costing goes I was thinking there's little in it. Yes the mybook is more expensive but when you add the cost of the caddy, or docking bay together there's not much in it. Hmmmm, decisions decisions........ Steve
I got one of these NAS systems a few months ago: <http://www.synology.com/enu/products/DS410/index.php> and I'm really happy with it. I put two drives in so far, and I have one backing up to the other at a scheduled time; I back my stuff up from various machines, and the NAS drive makes an extra copy automatically. It's really easy to set up, responsive, has a good GUI and lots of useful features (like scheduled startup and shutdown). And if the unit were ever to die, I could just take the drives out, put them in a caddy, and get at the data easily. It takes four drives, but I only have two in right now. I'll add another one when 3TB drives come down to a reasonable price, I think. One of the drives in it came from the POS Apple TimeCapsule I was daft enough to buy -- lasted only about a year and a half, but I was able to gut it and pull out the drive, which was fine. Cheers, Martin On 10-10-19 02:27 PM, sambodidley wrote: > "Steve_Karl"<> wrote in message > news:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... >> I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" >> drives. >> I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw >> drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic >> box and bundle them with junkware. >> >> For the last few yrs. I've always got: >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 >> >> and mount a WDC "Black" in it. >> >> S >> >> >> >> >> >> "Steve Corr"<> wrote in message >> news:i9ha4m$p9n$... >>> Hi people >>> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the >>> tooth and I need to back up more stuff. >>> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding >>> internal or external? >>> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the >>> drive but would like to have that as an option >>> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. >>> >>> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is >>> Sata-11 >>> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. >>> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of >>> the drive that I'll be buying? >>> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with >>> another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? >>> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 >>> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) >>> >>> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it >>> the best option? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Steve > > I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. > The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some of those boxes are > drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. I lost one good drive in > one of them and was about to lose another. I have several SATA drives and > just plug them in the dock when I need one. > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066> > >
"Ardcorr" <> wrote in message news:... > On 19 Oct, 21:43, "Steve_Karl" <> wrote: >> I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" drives. >> I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic >> box and bundle them with junkware. >> >> For the last few yrs. I've always got:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 >> >> and mount a WDC "Black" in it. >> >> S >> >> "Steve Corr" <> wrote in messagenews:i9ha4m$p9n$... >> > Hi people >> > I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the tooth and I need to back up more stuff. >> > First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding internal or external? >> > What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from the drive but would like to have that as an option >> > should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. >> >> > My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is Sata-11 >> > and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. >> > Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed of the drive that I'll be buying? >> > Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? >> > I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 >> > (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) >> >> > The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is it the best option? >> >> > Cheers >> > Steve > > So you think those western digital mybooks are the lower end of their > product range? I mean the one I have is very quiet and well ventilated > and has been pretty good but it's getting pretty full and they all > have a limited shelf life so it might be time I got another. It's just a guess. I have no proof but it makes sense to me.
"Ardcorr" <> wrote in message news:... On 19 Oct, 22:27, "sambodidley" <> wrote: > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message > > news:i9kvso$9g3$-september.org... > > > > > I'd avoid the pre packaged "help mom 'n' pop think they're backing up" > > drives. > > I belive they're probably factory seconds that can't be sold as a raw > > drive so they hide them in a cheap plastic > > box and bundle them with junkware. > > > For the last few yrs. I've always got: > >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173043 > > > and mount a WDC "Black" in it. > > > S > > > "Steve Corr" <> wrote in message > >news:i9ha4m$p9n$... > >> Hi people > >> I'm looking to get another drive as my WD MYbook is getting long in the > >> tooth and I need to back up more stuff. > >> First I guess I'm still not sure what my best option is regarding > >> internal or external? > >> What are the pros and cons? I wont initially be running samples from > >> the > >> drive but would like to have that as an option > >> should I wish in the future so that maybe be a deciding factor. > > >> My initial question was this, I have an eSata storage caddy that is > >> Sata-11 > >> and the drive I'll be getting will be a sata-111 drive. > >> Is there any point in using that caddy since it can't match the speed > >> of > >> the drive that I'll be buying? > >> Secondly, if I'm going to get an external drive am I better off with > >> another mybook rather than an internal drive in a caddy? > >> I'm looking at the new WD Mybook USB 3 > >> (http://www.scan.co.uk/Pro...5-External-HDD-USB-30) > > >> The cheaper option would obviously be to get an internal drive but is > >> it > >> the best option? > > >> Cheers > >> Steve > > I use one of these docking stations and just drop the drive into it. > The drive runs real cool out naked in the open air. Some of those boxes > are > drive killers if they don't have good ventilation. I lost one good drive > in > one of them and was about to lose another. I have several SATA drives and > just plug them in the dock when I need one. > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066> Yeah I have seen these and wondered if they might be an option. The only obvious weakness to me was they might be a bit vulnerable as they are unprotected but then I have neither cat nor dog nor children so that would just leave me as the likely blunderer who would spill tea all over it. As far as costing goes I was thinking there's little in it. Yes the mybook is more expensive but when you add the cost of the caddy, or docking bay together there's not much in it. Hmmmm, decisions decisions........ Steve Yes, if you were only going to dock one drive. As I stated, I have three SATA drives I dock in it and will probably have more in the future. The quick change bit is what I like about a docking port.
Hot swap capable plus like G'Bo said, the drives run very cool sitting upright and open, are the winning features for me. I use several of these docks. Most that I bought can connect with eSATA or USB as desired and will accept SATA or IDE drives (a couple I have are USB only and will only accept IDE, these were cheaper). For me, I always buy the docks that accept two drives. I nearly always have two external drives online so that suits my workflow better, and as a bonus it is just one external power supply and only needs one port on the machine for the two drives. The docks I buy have power switches for each drive, so they can run a single drive only if desired. The most I've paid is around $30 and all are still working fine after a couple of years of daily use. If you don't mind the appearance or can tuck them out of sight these are superior to drive enclosures IMO. The brands I've bought are StarTech, IcyDock, Rosewill, Vantec and probably a few others. I've found no appreciable difference in the brands as long as I select one with all the features I need as mentioned above. YMMV of course "sambodidley" <> wrote in message news:38a9$4cc4ca47$438d45cc$... > Yes, if you were only going to dock one drive. As I stated, I have three > SATA drives I dock in it and will probably have more in the future. The > quick change bit is what I like about a docking port. >
<...or whatever causes the main drive to fail.> Like ANY attempted install of ANY Yellow Tools software, WIBU keys, etc..... -- Regards, Ted Perlman Producer-Arranger-Guitarist-Composer-Engineer www.tedperlman.com www.myspace.com/tedperlman www.facebook.com/ted.perlman
The killer robot "Ted Perlman" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > <...or whatever causes the main drive to fail.> > > Like ANY attempted install of ANY Yellow Tools software, WIBU keys, > etc..... I have the *free* version of Yellow Tools Independence, which didn't give me any grief, but I wasn't impressed enough to buy any of their stuff. For a softsynth with a lot of various instruments, the free Proteus VX is my goto plugin. It's sounds are mostly, if not all from the Emu library, which are good quality and very playable sounds. The price is right too! -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
On 12/3/2010 1:13 AM, Ted Perlman wrote: > <...or whatever causes the main drive to fail.> > > Like ANY attempted install of ANY Yellow Tools software, WIBU keys, etc..... > > > > Ha, ha. Speaking of that Yellow Tools just upgraded Independence. Their stuff sucks. I guess copy protection is better than product development.
<free Proteus VX> Do you have a link? I used to have the hardware version of that. -- Regards, Ted Perlman Producer-Arranger-Guitarist-Composer-Engineer www.tedperlman.com www.myspace.com/tedperlman www.facebook.com/ted.perlman
In news:idnolc$n12$-september.org the killer robot "Ted Perlman" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > <free Proteus VX> > > Do you have a link? I used to have the hardware version of that. They want you to sign up for their newsletter, but you can give 'em a bogus email address. http://www.emu.com/promo/proteusvx/welcome.asp -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
