Interview with Reaper developers

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  1. Neil Rutman Guest

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    This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their philosophy.
    They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.

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    On 11/29/2010 10:28 AM, Neil Rutman wrote:
    > This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their philosophy.
    > They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.
    >
    > Neil R
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    >


    But you're gonna have to start paying for it!

    eric
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    The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the
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    > This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    > philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.


    Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the moment
    that version 4 is available.

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    The killer robot eric weasel <> grabbed the
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    >> This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    >> philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.
    >>
    >> Neil R
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    >>

    >
    > But you're gonna have to start paying for it!


    It's a $50 upgrade for me, and I bought the personal version two years
    ago.

    For a brand new user, V4 will cost them $60, unless they are a commercial
    studio, and the yearly gross revenue exceeds USD $20,000.

    http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=63937

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    It's a paper mag and so great!! I highly recommend Tape-Op (it's free)!
    www.tapeop.com If I get a chance I'll scan the article and post later on.

    Neil R

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    The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the controls
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    > It's a paper mag and so great!! I highly recommend Tape-Op (it's free)!
    > www.tapeop.com If I get a chance I'll scan the article and post later on.


    Cool. Thanks! :)

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    Glennbo was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 11/29/2010 at 8:30:53 AM and now
    feels very oogly boogly:

    > The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the
    > controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these
    > buttons...
    >
    > > This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    > > philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.

    >
    > Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    > moment that version 4 is available.
    >


    Philistine! ;)

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    The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the controls
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    > It's a paper mag and so great!! I highly recommend Tape-Op (it's free)!
    > www.tapeop.com If I get a chance I'll scan the article and post later on.


    Looks like someone put the interview up as a pdf doc. I really like the
    philosophy and product these guys produce.

    http://www.desert-skies.net/tapeop_interview.pdf

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    The killer robot "Ben Goldman" <> grabbed
    the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these
    buttons...

    >> The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the
    >> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these
    >> buttons...
    >>
    >> > This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    >> > philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.

    >>
    >> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    >> moment that version 4 is available.
    >>

    >
    > Philistine! ;)


    Hey, I still have Sonar installed on my machine, and even fire it up now
    and then to see if there are any musical fragments I might want to port
    over to Reaper to expand on! ;)

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    Glennbo was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 11/29/2010 at 11:45:01 AM and now
    feels very oogly boogly:

    > The killer robot "Ben Goldman" <>
    > grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed
    > these buttons...
    >
    > >> The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the
    > >> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these
    > >> buttons...
    > >>
    > >> > This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    > >> > philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.
    > >>
    > >> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    > >> moment that version 4 is available.
    > > >

    > >
    > > Philistine! ;)

    >
    > Hey, I still have Sonar installed on my machine, and even fire it up
    > now and then to see if there are any musical fragments I might want
    > to port over to Reaper to expand on! ;)
    >


    Isn't that special? :p Too bad it's a bit obsolete. Money spent on
    an upgrade is worthwhile - for most here, anyway. ;) Don't you also
    use SONAR for when you work with Poly?

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    The killer robot "Ben Goldman" <> grabbed
    the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    >> >> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    >> >> moment that version 4 is available.
    >> > >
    >> >
    >> > Philistine! ;)

    >>
    >> Hey, I still have Sonar installed on my machine, and even fire it up
    >> now and then to see if there are any musical fragments I might want
    >> to port over to Reaper to expand on! ;)
    >>

    >
    > Isn't that special? :p Too bad it's a bit obsolete. Money spent on
    > an upgrade is worthwhile - for most here, anyway. ;)


    I actually did download the demo version of Sonar 8, and approached it with
    an open mind, only requiring two things.

    1. That I could record and playback at the same 1ms (64 samples) ASIO
    latency that I do from start to finish with all my projects in Reaper.

    2. That the stability and reliability was as good as what I'm used to with
    Reaper.

    My first requirement wasn't met, so I never got to find out if the second
    would have panned out. I was able to do some tracks with the Sonar demo
    using the exact same ASIO settings I use with Reaper, but began to get
    artifacts and pops and snaps that required me to up the latency.

    > Don't you also use SONAR for when you work with Poly?


    I send Poly an MP3 exported out of Reaper. He loads the MP3 into Sonar,
    records his tracks, exports the individual tracks to .wav, and then I
    import the .wav files into Reaper. Works totally slick, and lets both of
    us use whatever DAW software we want to use. We could do the same thing if
    I was using Sonar and he was using Reaper, or if both of us were using
    Sonar, or both of us were using Reaper.

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    Glennbo was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 11/29/2010 at 12:11:47 PM and now
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    > I actually did download the demo version of Sonar 8, and approached
    > it with an open mind, only requiring two things.
    >
    > 1. That I could record and playback at the same 1ms (64 samples) ASIO
    > latency that I do from start to finish with all my projects in Reaper.
    >


    Can you feel the difference or are you going by the two benchmark
    indicators?

    > 2. That the stability and reliability was as good as what I'm used to
    > with Reaper.
    >
    > My first requirement wasn't met, so I never got to find out if the
    > second would have panned out. I was able to do some tracks with the
    > Sonar demo using the exact same ASIO settings I use with Reaper, but
    > began to get artifacts and pops and snaps that required me to up the
    > latency.
    >
    > > Don't you also use SONAR for when you work with Poly?

    >
    > I send Poly an MP3 exported out of Reaper. He loads the MP3 into
    > Sonar, records his tracks, exports the individual tracks to .wav, and
    > then I import the .wav files into Reaper. Works totally slick, and
    > lets both of us use whatever DAW software we want to use. We could
    > do the same thing if I was using Sonar and he was using Reaper, or if
    > both of us were using Sonar, or both of us were using Reaper.
    >


    If it were I, I'd prefer Cakewalk files. I did the MP3 deal with a
    band mate of mine; couldn't undo the over done reverb on his voice
    because he didn't know how to send me dry tracks. Also we were stuck
    with whatever each other had initially done without being able to
    collab production ideas too.

    The way you and Poly do it appears to be working just fine for yous
    guyses. I'm going to look up my pal in Norman right now. I hope he's
    still available/alive.

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    The killer robot "Ben Goldman" <> grabbed
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    >> I actually did download the demo version of Sonar 8, and approached
    >> it with an open mind, only requiring two things.
    >>
    >> 1. That I could record and playback at the same 1ms (64 samples) ASIO
    >> latency that I do from start to finish with all my projects in Reaper.
    >>

    >
    > Can you feel the difference or are you going by the two benchmark
    > indicators?


    Playing my pad kit that is triggering Superior Drummer 2 at 1ms feels
    almost as tight as playing my acoustic kit. Playing it at 5.8ms starts to
    feel sluggish, and at 10ms feels loose as a goose.

    >> 2. That the stability and reliability was as good as what I'm used to
    >> with Reaper.
    >>
    >> My first requirement wasn't met, so I never got to find out if the
    >> second would have panned out. I was able to do some tracks with the
    >> Sonar demo using the exact same ASIO settings I use with Reaper, but
    >> began to get artifacts and pops and snaps that required me to up the
    >> latency.
    >>
    >> > Don't you also use SONAR for when you work with Poly?

    >>
    >> I send Poly an MP3 exported out of Reaper. He loads the MP3 into
    >> Sonar, records his tracks, exports the individual tracks to .wav, and
    >> then I import the .wav files into Reaper. Works totally slick, and
    >> lets both of us use whatever DAW software we want to use. We could
    >> do the same thing if I was using Sonar and he was using Reaper, or if
    >> both of us were using Sonar, or both of us were using Reaper.
    >>

    >
    > If it were I, I'd prefer Cakewalk files. I did the MP3 deal with a
    > band mate of mine; couldn't undo the over done reverb on his voice
    > because he didn't know how to send me dry tracks. Also we were stuck
    > with whatever each other had initially done without being able to
    > collab production ideas too.


    What I get back from Poly are individual wave files for each track he
    added, with no FX at all. If he did 10 tracks, I get 10 waves.

    > The way you and Poly do it appears to be working just fine for yous
    > guyses. I'm going to look up my pal in Norman right now. I hope he's
    > still available/alive.


    Poly gots a bud in Norman too!

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    Glennbo was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 11/29/2010 at 12:55:26 PM and now
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    > > Can you feel the difference or are you going by the two benchmark
    > > indicators?

    >
    > Playing my pad kit that is triggering Superior Drummer 2 at 1ms feels
    > almost as tight as playing my acoustic kit. Playing it at 5.8ms
    > starts to feel sluggish, and at 10ms feels loose as a goose.


    I can't stand sluggish! Luckily I don't require that kind of latency.

    > >> > Don't you also use SONAR for when you work with Poly?


    > > If it were I, I'd prefer Cakewalk files. I did the MP3 deal with a
    > > band mate of mine; couldn't undo the over done reverb on his voice
    > > because he didn't know how to send me dry tracks. Also we were
    > > stuck with whatever each other had initially done without being
    > > able to collab production ideas too.

    >
    > What I get back from Poly are individual wave files for each track he
    > added, with no FX at all. If he did 10 tracks, I get 10 waves.


    Very workable. Too bad my pal didn't know how to sing without the
    reverb circuits on his mic pre-amp.

    I just checked with 411 (405-555-1212) and can't find him anymore. He
    had a bad heart. :( I'll write him a letter through his church and
    see if he's still with us.

    >
    > > The way you and Poly do it appears to be working just fine for yous
    > > guyses. I'm going to look up my pal in Norman right now. I hope
    > > he's still available/alive.

    >
    > Poly gots a bud in Norman too!


    1234 Dirt Road? ;)


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    The killer robot "Ben Goldman" <> grabbed
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    >> Poly gots a bud in Norman too!

    >
    > 1234 Dirt Road? ;)


    No, dats where *I* live in Carrier!!!

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    On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:20:43 +0000 (UTC), Glennbo
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    >No, dats where *I* live in Carrier!!!


    I thought that was for your other life in America Samoa.

    Our dirt road up in the North GA mountains got paved. It's getting
    entirely too civilized.

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    The killer robot Ull <> grabbed the
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    >>No, dats where *I* live in Carrier!!!

    >
    > I thought that was for your other life in America Samoa.


    Hehe, using the "wayback" machine again Mr. Peabody? <g>

    > Our dirt road up in the North GA mountains got paved. It's getting
    > entirely too civilized.


    Paved roads cause global warming!!! ;)

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    On 11/29/2010 10:05 AM, Neil Rutman wrote:
    > It's a paper mag and so great!! I highly recommend Tape-Op (it's free)!
    > www.tapeop.com If I get a chance I'll scan the article and post later on.
    >
    > Neil R
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    > "Glennbo"<> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9E3F6AE772235BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62...
    >> The killer robot "Neil Rutman"<> grabbed the
    >> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >>
    >>> This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    >>> philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.

    >>
    >> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the moment
    >> that version 4 is available.
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    Like their views on copy protection
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    The killer robot kitekrazy <> grabbed the
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    >>>> This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    >>>> philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.
    >>>
    >>> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    >>> moment that version 4 is available.


    > Like their views on copy protection


    It's fairly similar to Cake, except their demo will continue to work, even
    after you have passed the evaluation expiration date.

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    "Glennbo" <> wrote in message
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    > The killer robot kitekrazy <> grabbed the
    > controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    > >>>> This months Tape-Op. I'm impressed with these guys. Love their
    > >>>> philosophy. They say something very exciting is coming in vs. 4.
    > >>>
    > >>> Gotta link? I'm totally sold on Reaper, and will be upgrading the
    > >>> moment that version 4 is available.

    >
    > > Like their views on copy protection

    >
    > It's fairly similar to Cake, except their demo will continue to work, even
    > after you have passed the evaluation expiration date.


    Which still amazes me to this day. I tried it for ages before I finally
    coughed up the dough (looking forward to version 4 which I won't have to pay
    for).
    I think they want people to get comfortable with it before purchasing which
    is a great idea. Although there's probably a ton of folks that use it every
    day without paying. A program like Reaper is worth 10x the cost.

    Poly
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