Hallo, is there a good way to manage larger projects containing for example more than one song? Example: I want to compose the soundtrack for a small (not more then 30 minutes) video. This soundtrack should consist of some different songs so that the songs can be adapted to the "mood" (is this the right word?) of the specific scene. I don't want to start a discussion about video-soundtracks or scoring. In older versions of cubase a "Song" could contain one or more "Arrangements", so that i took a "Song" to structure such larger projects. But when i look around in Cubase, i only find a "Project". Does that mean i have to create a project for each of my wanted songs? Or does that mean that i have to compose the whole score in one project and to adapt the lengthes and starttimes exactly to the imported video-track? Or does that mean....? Please give me some advice. Many thanks in advance. Greetings Gerd-Ulrich Meyer
Gerd-Ulrich Meyer a écrit : > Does that mean i have to create a project for each of my wanted songs? - This is my way of working when I have several music I have to deliver for the same film. But it might not be the moste effective. Since I never work on two different musics at the same time, I just have to import bounces of the musics before and after the currently opened song. Two things are helping me when I do this: There is a time code printed in each frame of the video. This way, I can continue working in a bar-beat scale *and* know where I put things in the film. Your vision of a big project with several music is more a vison of post-production, to me. Cubase is more of a pre-poduction/production stage software , I think. Huey
Hallo, Hueyduck schrieb: > Gerd-Ulrich Meyer a écrit : > >> Does that mean i have to create a project for each of my wanted songs? > - > This is my way of working when I have several music I have to deliver > for the same film. But it might not be the moste effective. I thought so. So i decided to ask here > Since I never work on two different musics at the same time, I just > have to import bounces of the musics before and after the currently > opened song. > > Two things are helping me when I do this: > There is a time code printed in each frame of the video. > This way, I can continue working in a bar-beat scale *and* know where I > put things in the film. That would be possible to realize. > Your vision of a big project with several music is more a vison of > post-production, to me. > Cubase is more of a pre-poduction/production stage software , I think. Well, i have a "mixture" of both. As i'm both "Video-producer/composer" and "Songcreator" i can switch between both workflows. At the moment my complete plan for this project looks like: 1. Creating and cutting a raw version of the video (without transitions and without correct scene-lengths). 2. Creating the songs and mix them down with a separate mixing desk on a Minidisc. 3. Importing the songs as *.wav and adding them in the correct order to the video-track (this step has to be done in the Video-editing-software). But my problem is between step 1 and 2: I can export the raw video and import it in Cubase as a video track, so that i can determine the lengths of each song. Now, when i use separate projects for each song i have to import the video in each project. So that was my question: Does anybody know a way to have more than one song in a Cubase-project? Thank you though. > > Huey Greetings, Gerd-Ulrich Meyer
Gerd-Ulrich Meyer wrote: > Hallo, > > is there a good way to manage larger projects containing for example > more than one song? > Example: I want to compose the soundtrack for a small (not more then 30 > minutes) video. This soundtrack should consist of some different songs > so that the songs can be adapted to the "mood" (is this the right word?) > of the specific scene. > > I don't want to start a discussion about video-soundtracks or scoring. > > In older versions of cubase a "Song" could contain one or more > "Arrangements", so that i took a "Song" to structure such larger > projects. But when i look around in Cubase, i only find a "Project". > Does that mean i have to create a project for each of my wanted songs? > Or does that mean that i have to compose the whole score in one project > and to adapt the lengthes and starttimes exactly to the imported > video-track? > Or does that mean....? > > Please give me some advice. > > Many thanks in advance. > > Greetings > > Gerd-Ulrich Meyer Whilst this does not relate specifically to video soundtrack production, the workflow I have used for complete CD production (tracking, mixing, mastering and manufacture) may be a similar situation in some respects. Firstly I create a single directory to hold the entire album project. Then I track each song as a separate tracking project in a tracking directory. Each of these tracking projects has inputs configured for tracking and several takes per song plus overdubs etc. Following tracking, the appropriate parts and takes are selected and inserted into a mixing project for each song, in a mixing directory. Thes projects have inserts and sends, eq etc to mix the song down to 2 tracks. Each song is mixed and rendered to a 2-track audio file (32 bit). Once all the songs are mixed I will create a mastering project (in a mastering directory), with one stereo track per song and import the songs into each track at their appropriate positions in the album context. Each track can have additional mastering processing applied to it and final 2-track bus processing. This allows the complete CD to be listened to all the way through to check for sequencing and continuity. Once the mastering is complete the tracks are then rendered individually as 16-bit dithered 44.1K files ready to be burnt to an audio CD to go to the manufacturers.
Gerd-Ulrich Meyer schreef: > Hallo, .... > But my problem is between step 1 and 2: I can export the raw video and > import it in Cubase as a video track, so that i can determine the > lengths of each song. Now, when i use separate projects for each song i > have to import the video in each project. As an addition to Huey's good advice: I don't believe it is necessary to re-import the video, i.e. creating a new copy of the video file, for each project. You can use "Back up project" without copying the video file. So you would make one "template" project with the video, and then use Backup for each song. For the rest I agree with the statement that you should create a new folder for each song. Rearranging the finished songs to the complete video for mastering and editing is a different job, which deserves its own folder, again created from the template. HTH Jos. -- Ardis Park Music www.ardispark.nl
Hallo, Jos Geluk schrieb: > Gerd-Ulrich Meyer schreef: >> Hallo, > ... >> But my problem is between step 1 and 2: I can export the raw video and >> import it in Cubase as a video track, so that i can determine the >> lengths of each song. Now, when i use separate projects for each song >> i have to import the video in each project. > > As an addition to Huey's good advice: I don't believe it is necessary to > re-import the video, i.e. creating a new copy of the video file, for > each project. You can use "Back up project" without copying the video > file. So you would make one "template" project with the video, and then > use Backup for each song. Ahh, that sounds good. I didn't recognize this function as a way to solve my problem. > > For the rest I agree with the statement that you should create a new > folder for each song. Rearranging the finished songs to the complete > video for mastering and editing is a different job, which deserves its > own folder, again created from the template. With this "background-knowledge" the separation in different folders for each song makes sense. > > HTH Again, it seems, that you all have helped me a big step forward (i hope this is a possible wording?! ) > > Jos. > > Greetings, Gerd-Ulrich Meyer
Gerd-Ulrich Meyer a écrit : > But my problem is between step 1 and 2: I can export the raw video and > import it in Cubase as a video track, so that i can determine the > lengths of each song. Now, when i use separate projects for each song i > have to import the video in each project. > - Yes and no. Yes you have to import the video in each song. But It can be the same file called by 10 different cubase project. You don't have to have the whole video in each project. You have to import it all, but you can cut only the part you need for each song. Since you can always read the time code of the film, you don't have to bother where you cut : it just have to serve the image well. When you are done with each song, you can write down the time code of the movie your song is starting so that you can put you wave in you video project. And btw, I forgot to tell you the last step I take, sometimes: I simlply create a "mother song" in cubase, where there is no production tracks but only the bounces of the different piece of music previously preproduce. > So that was my question: Does anybody know a way to have more than one > song in a Cubase-project? I hope somebody will help more. But, out of curiosity: how can you need to work on several songs at a time? For instance, If I'm working on a song and find that the crossfade with the precefent song is not happening how I want it, I just bounce one of the twio songs and import it into the song that has to change in order to hava nice crossfade. That gives me the luxury of always having my whole CPU power for each song. But you might not consider this advantage if you are working with a lot of external stuff too. Huey
