Latest new song feedback required

Discussion in 'alt.steinberg.cubase' started by UkJay, Aug 26, 2007.

  1. UkJay Guest

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    Hi
    I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    inspired by walking round
    Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    in another song?

    Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    later )

    http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari

    James
    http://www.ukjay.co.uk
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  2. Six String Stu Guest

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    "UkJay" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > James
    > http://www.ukjay.co.uk
    >

    I went to the url and all three songs did not play. Cant give you an
    opinion if I cant hear it.
  3. Jos Geluk Guest

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    UkJay schreef:

    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?


    With all due respect for a idea well developed and recorded with care,
    here are some remarks:

    - In terms of verse/chorus blocks, the chorus would be much stronger if
    it followed right after the verse. Remove a couple of these up-and-down
    chords that you have already plenty of. The final chorus could be repeated.
    - The vocals would have more room if the phased/chorused organ would
    stop during the verse. The organ attracts a lot of attention, and
    whether you like the sound or not is a matter of taste, but during the
    verse it should not detract from the vocals. Did you mix it with with
    headphones? I would push the organ way to the back anyway.
    - The balance between long, flowing notes and short, punctuating ones
    could be better. There is a funky guitar in the background in some
    parts, you could use that to counterbalance the organ. A real bass
    player would probably use many more short notes as well. This imbalance
    between instruments is exactly what makes it recognizable as a
    MIDI-based song, as opposed to one rehearsed by live musicians.
    - Also, it is usually a good idea to give the chorus a different
    instrumentation from the verse. Perhaps the drums should play a
    different pattern.
    - The second voice during the chorus is not always spot-on in sync with
    the lead vocals. Once you get the second voice right, turn it up a bit.
    There is a hook lurking there.
    - Halfway the last verse, the drums play a break that should not be
    there (it is ineffective in any case).
    - Finally, the intro uses all instruments at once as of bar one, beat
    one. It's long enough as it is, but maybe you could build it up a
    little. On the other hand, the fade-out could be stretched a little longer.

    I hope this makes sense.

    Jos.

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    www.ardispark.nl
  4. StudioRat81 Guest

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    On Aug 26, 4:52 am, UkJay <> wrote:
    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk


    This song is a prime example of an amateur demo. The arrangement is
    monotonous and there isn't enough rhythmic, harmonic or melodic
    movement to keep a listener interested for the entire length of the
    track. The musicianship was decent, especially the guitar work, but
    the main keyboard sound takes up way too much sonic real estate, and
    essentially drowns out everything else, including the lead vocals. It
    feels like you built the arrangement mix around a stagnant point (the
    keyboard line), which makes connecting with your audience very
    difficult. People need movement, anticipation, excitement from
    somewhere, and I don't see that in this track. You have several other
    things going on in the song that could become focal points as you
    progress through the arrangement, so try pulling some of them out from
    now and again to lead your listener through the song. Beef up your
    vocal sounds, too. They sound very weak and indistinct, particularly
    the BGVs. You have a good voice, I just feel like it isn't being
    presented in the best light. Put it out there, front and
    center...don't make it fight to be heard. Personally, I feel like you
    could have said everything you had to say in that song in a lot less
    time with a lot less "empty space". Just one man's opinion though.
  5. sid Guest

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    You need a lot of help in the beat dept. Something that sounds electro
    should have a killer dance beat.
  6. RickRyan.com Guest

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    On Aug 26, 3:52 am, UkJay <> wrote:
    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk


    Even without listening to it, do not EVER EVER EVER state publicly
    that your song "was inspired by x". If you ever did luck up and get a
    hit, you'd be giving easy target to someone else taking your
    royalties.
  7. Mike Rieves Guest

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    "UkJay" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > James
    > http://www.ukjay.co.uk


    The vocals are too low in the mix, the keyboard part is too loud, and the
    drums are too "cheap drum module" sounding. The song is really monotonous,
    mostly because of the keyboard sound and bass part. There are no dynamics in
    the song either. I'd suggest using that keyboard sound only in either the
    verse or chorus, and use something else to give the song a bit of variety.
    Bring the vocals up in the mix and bring the guitar up a bit as well.
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    >http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari


    Try another mix. First off, bring the vocals up. Stiffen up the
    harmonies in the refrain.

    There's a guitar noodling away in the background. Aren't there some
    places where it should be taking the lead?

    Shorten the whole song by about a minute.

    It has potential.
  9. OldNick Guest

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    On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:59:57 -0500, "Six String Stu"
    <> wrote stuff
    and I replied:

    Sorry to start ther Top post/bottom post fight, but why do I have to
    scroll down through every message to get the lates news? This is
    emphasised when ALL the messages are includede in the preamble, and
    the last post is a 1 liner.

    It goes against all busib=ness reporting pratcice; show the most
    recent first and if the reader is interested they read the rest. If
    not then that's their worry.

    So. If you MUSAt bottom post, then at least minimise ther cRAP i HAVE
    TO SCROLL DOWN EVERY i HAVE TO READ EACH MESSAGE .

    >
    >"UkJay" <> wrote in message
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    >> Hi
    >> I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    >> inspired by walking round
    >> Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    >> Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    >> in another song?
    >>
    >> Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    >> feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    >> At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    >> later )
    >>
    >> http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >>
    >> James
    >> http://www.ukjay.co.uk
    >>

    > I went to the url and all three songs did not play. Cant give you an
    >opinion if I cant hear it.
    >


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  10. UkJay Guest

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    Hi again

    I've taken on board your feedback and would like to say THANKS for
    taking the
    time to listen to the track and to give the help I obviously needed.
    I have already started to re-mix, and came across a few mistakes I had
    made with
    a few things like picking the wrong vocal track and using the same
    channel for six backing vocals (doh)
    I am working on most of the problems you all pointed out, and
    hopefully I wont be in such a rush
    to mixdown this time. I also will try and add a few more things of
    interest, and also cut the length of the
    track down a bit, It was also nice to get some praise for the guitar
    work (thanks StudioRat81)
    it does help to give praise as well as criticism.

    James
    http://www.ukjay.co.uk





    On Aug 26, 9:52 am, UkJay <> wrote:
    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk
  11. Joe L Guest

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    > it does help to give praise as well as criticism.
    >
    > James
    > http://www.ukjay.co.uk



    True, but you're gonna get the obvious stuff pointed out first. It's the
    nature of the working/experienced muso's to think that way.....'gee, I need
    to hear more of..."

    JL
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    "OldNick" <> wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:59:57 -0500, "Six String Stu"
    > <> wrote stuff
    > So. If you MUSAt bottom post, then at least minimise ther cRAP i HAVE
    > TO SCROLL DOWN EVERY i HAVE TO READ EACH MESSAGE .
    >


    Bottom posting is considered proper from, however, one should snip out all
    but the parts to which one is replying, as I did here.
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    "Mike Rieves" <> wrote in message
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    > Bottom posting is considered proper from, however, one should snip out
    > all but the parts to which one is replying, as I did here.


    LOL! Yeh, Mike, you're the King of Snipping. Just look at this classic
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    "Jim Carr" <> wrote in message
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    > "Mike Rieves" <> wrote in message
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    > LOL! Yeh, Mike, you're the King of Snipping. Just look at this classic
    > example with your one sentence gem at the bottom.


    How about this one? **** you, Jim!
  15. Jim Carr Guest

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    "UkJay" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari


    Keyboard sound is kinda cheesy and overpowering.
    Vocals seem pitchy and definitely buried.
    Guitar solo is buried and doesn't seem to add anything.
    Overall it's predictable and not the least bit funky.

    To be honest I couldn't listen to the whole thing. Sometimes harsh criticism
    is needed. Just about everything is poorly done. It sounds like you have the
    germ of a catchy refrain, but that's about it.
  16. sid Guest

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    On Aug 28, 11:38 pm, "Mike Rieves" <> wrote:
    > "Jim Carr" <> wrote in message
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    > > "Mike Rieves" <> wrote in message
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    > > LOL! Yeh, Mike, you're the King of Snipping. Just look at this classic
    > > example with your one sentence gem at the bottom.

    >
    > How about this one? **** you, Jim!


    Okay guys, take your foul mouths out of the soloact group and stop
    cross posting your garbage over here. Keep your filth over at the home
    studio group along with the porno mags you hide from your mom under
    the mattress. We have women, Ministers and even Jehovah Witness over
    here. So wash your foul mouths with soap and water before entering.
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    is there any possibility of generating MP3 or Ogg formats?... i'd like
    to listen and critique, but refuse to download anything from apple..

    thanks!
    isaac
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    "RickRyan.com" <> wrote in message
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    > On Aug 26, 3:52 am, UkJay <> wrote:
    >> Hi
    >> I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    >> inspired by walking round
    >> Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    >> Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    >> in another song?
    >>
    >> Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    >> feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    >> At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    >> later )
    >>
    >> http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >>
    >> Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk

    >
    > Even without listening to it, do not EVER EVER EVER state publicly
    > that your song "was inspired by x". If you ever d<snip>


    Dont listen to this dumb piece of shit, matey. He hasn't got a clue

    Your song sounds fine.

    Good luck with it......:)
  19. UkJay Guest

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    Hi

    I've just finished the remix of "Try It On" yeh it's titled "Try It On
    - Remix"
    I hope that all the advice given has paid off with this version?

    I would be very interested on any more feedback of this remix - Thanks
    It's at the same place - Overplay

    http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari

    James
    http://www.ukjay.co.uk


    On 26 Aug, 09:52, UkJay <> wrote:
    > Hi
    > I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > inspired by walking round
    > Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > in another song?
    >
    > Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > later )
    >
    > http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari
    >
    > Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk
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    On Aug 30, 1:35 am, " na" <na@ na.com> wrote:
    > "RickRyan.com" <> wrote in message
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    > > On Aug 26, 3:52 am, UkJay <> wrote:
    > >> Hi
    > >> I've just completed my latest song titled "Try it on" this was
    > >> inspired by walking round
    > >> Marks & Spencers, where they have a sign "Try it on" ;-)
    > >> Who would have thought a trip out shopping with the wife would result
    > >> in another song?

    >
    > >> Could you please take a listen and if you get chance give me any
    > >> feedback on the song or the recording of it?
    > >> At the moment I have uploaded it here ( should also be on myspace
    > >> later )

    >
    > >>http://www.overplay.co.uk/JamesLazzari

    >
    > >> Jameshttp://www.ukjay.co.uk

    >
    > > Even without listening to it, do not EVER EVER EVER state publicly
    > > that your song "was inspired by x". If you ever d<snip>

    >
    > Dont listen to this dumb piece of shit, matey. He hasn't got a clue
    >
    > Your song sounds fine.
    >
    > Good luck with it......:)


    This is what happens when you cross post.You get useless advice from
    the worst internet troll in the business, Nick Andrews.
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