Looking for a video card

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  1. Nil Guest

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    My friend is devoted to iTunes to play his media files and sync his
    iPod. Unfortunately, it tends to crash the computer fairly often with a
    garbled display and/or blue screen. No other program does this. I'm
    assuming there's just something about the P4M800-M7A motherboard's
    integrated display adapter that doesn't get along with iTunes, and I'm
    hoping a add-on AGP adapter will play better.

    Can anyone recommend a decent inexpensive AGP video card?
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  2. Nil Guest

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    On 05 May 2010, Nil <> wrote in
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    > My friend is devoted to iTunes to play his media files and sync
    > his iPod. Unfortunately, it tends to crash the computer fairly
    > often with a garbled display and/or blue screen. No other program
    > does this. I'm assuming there's just something about the
    > P4M800-M7A motherboard's integrated display adapter that doesn't
    > get along with iTunes, and I'm hoping a add-on AGP adapter will
    > play better.
    >
    > Can anyone recommend a decent inexpensive AGP video card?


    By the way, here's what newegg has in my price range:

    <http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=4025&Description=agp%20video%20card&name=%2425%20-%20%2450>

    This is for simple desktop use, and the occasional video. No games.

    I see some that come with 256 or even 512 MB of RAM. Would that
    be a benefit in this case, or that just for gamers? Any preferred
    brands?

    I really don't know much about this area, so any free clues you
    might have sitting around would be appreciated.
  3. Sue Morton Guest

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    I personally favor ATI cards, but only because I've not been
    disappointed by them. So I've not had a reason to check out the
    competition.

    Looking at the link you provided, and the info you posted, my
    preferences would be...

    For the 'bottom of the barrel' category the EVGA for $36
    ($30+$6shipping):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130210 great
    specs for the price.

    If I were to buy for myself from this list, it would be the open box
    Sapphire for $51
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102814R

    JMO, YMMV, AFAIK, TTBOMK...
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    "Nil" <> wrote in message
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    > On 05 May 2010, Nil <> wrote in
    > cakewalk.audio:
    >
    >> My friend is devoted to iTunes to play his media files and sync
    >> his iPod. Unfortunately, it tends to crash the computer fairly
    >> often with a garbled display and/or blue screen. No other program
    >> does this. I'm assuming there's just something about the
    >> P4M800-M7A motherboard's integrated display adapter that doesn't
    >> get along with iTunes, and I'm hoping a add-on AGP adapter will
    >> play better.
    >>
    >> Can anyone recommend a decent inexpensive AGP video card?

    >
    > By the way, here's what newegg has in my price range:
    >
    > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=4025&Description=agp%20video%20card&name=%2425%20-%20%2450>
    >
    > This is for simple desktop use, and the occasional video. No games.
    >
    > I see some that come with 256 or even 512 MB of RAM. Would that
    > be a benefit in this case, or that just for gamers? Any preferred
    > brands?
    >
    > I really don't know much about this area, so any free clues you
    > might have sitting around would be appreciated.
  4. kitekrazy Guest

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    Sue Morton wrote:
    > I personally favor ATI cards, but only because I've not been
    > disappointed by them. So I've not had a reason to check out the
    > competition.
    >
    > Looking at the link you provided, and the info you posted, my
    > preferences would be...
    >
    > For the 'bottom of the barrel' category the EVGA for $36
    > ($30+$6shipping):
    > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130210 great
    > specs for the price.
    >
    > If I were to buy for myself from this list, it would be the open box
    > Sapphire for $51
    > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102814R
    >
    > JMO, YMMV, AFAIK, TTBOMK...


    Go with the Ati card. The Gforce ones are probably no better than the
    onboard graphics.

    The better option is to ditch iTunes and get his music from Amazon.
    iTunes has become very intrusive plus Amazon will load them into iTunes.
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  5. Nil Guest

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    On 06 May 2010, kitekrazy <> wrote in
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    > Go with the Ati card. The Gforce ones are probably no better than
    > the onboard graphics.


    Well, I'm getting a Gforce one, 'cause today I found a guy on
    craigslist who lives in the next town who is selling one for $5. I
    figured for that much it's worth a shot. If that doesn't work out, I'll
    take yours and Sue's advice more literally and stick to an ATI.

    > The better option is to ditch iTunes and get his music from
    > Amazon. iTunes has become very intrusive plus Amazon will load
    > them into iTunes.


    Really?!? Amazon has a standalone media player that can manage a local
    MP3 collection? I thought Amazon just sold the sound files.
  6. Gary R. Hook Guest

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    On 5/6/2010 7:37 PM, kitekrazy wrote:
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    > Go with the Ati card. The Gforce ones are probably no better than the
    > onboard graphics.


    I'll go with "incorrect". The FX5200 is far more powerful than the
    integrated S3 device on the motherboard (per the BioStart manual), and
    is capable of running low-end 3D games like Uru at decent frame rates
    and resolution.

    The problem is most likely the device _driver_, not the device. iTunes
    doesn't require a particularly robust graphics adapter, but QuickTime
    (which I think it uses) is going to require stable software. And if I
    were going to point the finger at anything it would be BioStar. FWIW
    Nvidia writes excellent drivers, in my experience.

    > The better option is to ditch iTunes and get his music from Amazon.
    > iTunes has become very intrusive plus Amazon will load them into iTunes.


    It's perfectly reasonable to use iTunes to manage audio files purchased
    from Amazon. But how does "ditching iTunes" and "load them into iTunes"
    make any sense? Unfortunately, per Apple's evil corporate philosophy,
    if you want to use an iPod you have to use iTunes to take full
    advantage of it.

    The advice to try an inexpensive video card and disable the onboard
    graphics is the first approach. Might not solve the problem, but it's a
    good starting point.
  7. Nil Guest

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    On 09 May 2010, "Gary R. Hook" <> wrote in
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    > The problem is most likely the device _driver_, not the device.


    I thought of that, too, but I had already tried several different
    drivers, and none of them fixed the problem. The video card itself
    seemed like another likely suspect and was easy to try a replacement.

    > The advice to try an inexpensive video card and disable the
    > onboard graphics is the first approach. Might not solve the
    > problem, but it's a good starting point.


    So far, so good, although it's only been a day so it's too soon to tell
    for sure.

    I can't figure out how to disable the onboard display adapter. There
    seems to be no setting in BIOS for that.
  8. Sue Morton Guest

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    Disable it inside windows device driver settings then?
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    "Nil" <> wrote in message
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    > I can't figure out how to disable the onboard display adapter. There
    > seems to be no setting in BIOS for that.
  9. Gary R. Hook Guest

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    On 5/9/2010 4:01 PM, Nil wrote:
    > I can't figure out how to disable the onboard display adapter. There
    > seems to be no setting in BIOS for that.


    I think the choice is which device to use as the primary adapter.
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