Looks like the new Apple Logic Studio does it again!

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  1. Guy Guest

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  2. lancelightning Guest

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    On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
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    >Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >
    >http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >
    >
    >Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >
    >Impressive...


    You reckon? So I ditch my pc, laptop and half my plug-ins..go Mac and
    all will be well? Nah..I'm staying put...Cubase does I want it to. It
    aint perfect but better the devil I know.............LL
  3. Ben Hanson Guest

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    There's nothing on that page which Cubase 5 either doesn't already do, or
    you can't do with another application. Stop being an Apple hack and go make
    some music. Last I checked the sequencer package you use doesn't help you
    make less crappy music.

    -Ben



    "Guy" <> wrote in message
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    > Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >
    >
    > Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >
    > Impressive...
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    On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
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    >Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >
    >http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >
    >
    >Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >
    >Impressive...



    Yeah, impressive crashes and incompatibilities, go over to the Apple
    support page and witness the carnage.

    Most people over there are complaining what a weak update it is and
    that it doesn't have the kind of pitch correction Cubase does.

    Each program has a few minor operations the other cannot do but the
    big one is the melodyne style pitch correction that Cubase has and
    Logic doesn't. There's even a topic on the Apple board lauding Cubase.

    Ap
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    "Guy" <> wrote in message
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    > Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >
    > http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >
    >
    > Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >
    > Impressive...
    >


    And how are you this year, troll-boi?

    oldtroll is OLD.
  6. Guy Guest

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    On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:35:27 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
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    >There's nothing on that page which Cubase 5 either doesn't already do,



    Cubase 5? You're joking right?

    Isn't that the version that crackers haven't bothered to crack because
    it's still so buggy?
  7. Guy Guest

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    On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:20:24 GMT, (Aphelion)
    wrote:

    >On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >>
    >>http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >>
    >>
    >>Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >>
    >>Impressive...

    >
    >
    >Yeah, impressive crashes and incompatibilities, go over to the Apple
    >support page and witness the carnage.
    >


    Uh... go to the Cubase forums and see all the people STILL too afraid
    to upgrade to Cubase 5.


    >Most people over there are complaining what a weak update it is and
    >that it doesn't have the kind of pitch correction Cubase does.
    >
    >Each program has a few minor operations the other cannot do but the
    >big one is the melodyne style pitch correction that Cubase has and
    >Logic doesn't. There's even a topic on the Apple board lauding Cubase.
    >
    >Ap



    Uh... the audio operations and timing editing in Logic is a major step
    for sequencing and not found in Cucrash.
  8. Guy Guest

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    On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:34:09 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:

    >On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >>
    >>http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >>
    >>
    >>Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >>
    >>Impressive...

    >
    >You reckon? So I ditch my pc, laptop and half my plug-ins..go Mac and
    >all will be well? Nah..I'm staying put...Cubase does I want it to. It
    >aint perfect but better the devil I know.............LL



    LOL at dongle boy.

    How's your dongle doing?

    Logic - no dongle needed... at least Apple doesn't treat their
    customers like thieves.
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    Too buggy? No. Go read the NFO which came with the hacked version of SX3
    from a few years ago and the crackers will tell you themselves why they
    haven't bothered cracking any version since (here's a hint: the Synchrosoft
    integration and encryption makes it not worth the effort).

    Nice attempt at setting up a strawman to distract attention from my original
    response though...to be expected I guess since it proves that you're not a
    real musician but a fanboy Apple hack.

    While you're at it, post the awesome music you made with Logic that's
    impossible to make with any other sequencer. I can't wait to hear how using
    Mac OS and Logic make shite songwriters and musicians magically awesome.

    -Ben


    "Guy" <> wrote in message
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    > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:35:27 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>There's nothing on that page which Cubase 5 either doesn't already do,

    >
    >
    > Cubase 5? You're joking right?
    >
    > Isn't that the version that crackers haven't bothered to crack because
    > it's still so buggy?
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:24:21 -0700, Guy <>
    wrote:

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    >Uh... go to the Cubase forums and see all the people STILL too afraid
    >to upgrade to Cubase 5.


    Cubase 5 is solid on PC, but I can see it being unstable (like Logic 9
    is) on the bloated OS that is Leopard... go check the Apple forum, the
    last OSX update is breaking parts of Logic. (and I generally like
    Logic, I've used it since version 2.xx).

    >Uh... the audio operations and timing editing in Logic is a major step
    >for sequencing and not found in Cucrash.


    No, they could even be done in earlier versions of Cubase, I use both
    programs on a regular basis.

    Ap
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    Hey..What's the cracked SX3 got to do with anything? Sod the
    crackers...we're at Cubase 5 now which most of us here think is pretty
    damn good. This a Cubase forum is it not?..WTF are you doing here
    anyway apart from winding people up? There's a lot of very talented
    and experienced musicians here. We don't need some spotty-faced
    jack-ass ranting on about something that has nothing to do with the
    group. Ha ha...I'm enjoying this....LL

    On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:35:42 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
    <> wrote:

    >Too buggy? No. Go read the NFO which came with the hacked version of SX3
    >from a few years ago and the crackers will tell you themselves why they
    >haven't bothered cracking any version since (here's a hint: the Synchrosoft
    >integration and encryption makes it not worth the effort).
    >
    >Nice attempt at setting up a strawman to distract attention from my original
    >response though...to be expected I guess since it proves that you're not a
    >real musician but a fanboy Apple hack.
    >
    >While you're at it, post the awesome music you made with Logic that's
    >impossible to make with any other sequencer. I can't wait to hear how using
    >Mac OS and Logic make shite songwriters and musicians magically awesome.
    >
    >-Ben
    >
    >
    >"Guy" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:35:27 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>There's nothing on that page which Cubase 5 either doesn't already do,

    >>
    >>
    >> Cubase 5? You're joking right?
    >>
    >> Isn't that the version that crackers haven't bothered to crack because
    >> it's still so buggy?

    >
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    I accidentally aimed my rant at the wrong poster but you get the idea
    !! LL

    On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:52:42 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:

    >Hey..What's the cracked SX3 got to do with anything? Sod the
    >crackers...we're at Cubase 5 now which most of us here think is pretty
    >damn good. This a Cubase forum is it not?..WTF are you doing here
    >anyway apart from winding people up? There's a lot of very talented
    >and experienced musicians here. We don't need some spotty-faced
    >jack-ass ranting on about something that has nothing to do with the
    >group. Ha ha...I'm enjoying this....LL
    >
    >On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:35:42 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
    ><> wrote:
    >
    >>Too buggy? No. Go read the NFO which came with the hacked version of SX3
    >>from a few years ago and the crackers will tell you themselves why they
    >>haven't bothered cracking any version since (here's a hint: the Synchrosoft
    >>integration and encryption makes it not worth the effort).
    >>
    >>Nice attempt at setting up a strawman to distract attention from my original
    >>response though...to be expected I guess since it proves that you're not a
    >>real musician but a fanboy Apple hack.
    >>
    >>While you're at it, post the awesome music you made with Logic that's
    >>impossible to make with any other sequencer. I can't wait to hear how using
    >>Mac OS and Logic make shite songwriters and musicians magically awesome.
    >>
    >>-Ben
    >>
    >>
    >>"Guy" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:35:27 +0100, "Ben Hanson"
    >>> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>There's nothing on that page which Cubase 5 either doesn't already do,
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Cubase 5? You're joking right?
    >>>
    >>> Isn't that the version that crackers haven't bothered to crack because
    >>> it's still so buggy?

    >>
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    On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:52:42 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:

    >jack-ass ranting on about something that has nothing to do with the
    >group. Ha ha...I'm enjoying this....LL



    Yeah man, I feel 10 years younger... like 50!

    haha.....

    I've been having to use Logic (which used to be a great program) for
    some compatibility projects which means I have to deal with Mac folks.

    My God! they are a snotty, holier than thou group.
    There are a few knowledgeable nice folks there but they are far
    outnumbered by the Mac fanboyz, each one a genius but somehow can't
    figure out the simplest things.

    The current fix for most Macs is a complete reinstall of the OS, my
    how things have changed.


    Ap

    p.s.
    Speaking of My God, there are some great Jethro Tull videos on
    youtube. I had forgotten what a great band they were, saw them live 3
    times back in the day, excellent live shows.
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    On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:46:13 GMT, (Aphelion)
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    >The current fix for most Macs is a complete reinstall of the OS, my
    >how things have changed.


    Am I right in saying this can be done independently of re-installing
    all the applications? If so, it does seem the efficient quick-fix.

    CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
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    On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:46:06 GMT, (Aphelion)
    wrote:

    >On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:24:21 -0700, Guy <>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Uh... go to the Cubase forums and see all the people STILL too afraid
    >>to upgrade to Cubase 5.

    >
    >Cubase 5 is solid on PC, but I can see it being unstable (like Logic 9
    >is) on the bloated OS that is Leopard... go check the Apple forum, the
    >last OSX update is breaking parts of Logic. (and I generally like
    >Logic, I've used it since version 2.xx).
    >
    >>Uh... the audio operations and timing editing in Logic is a major step
    >>for sequencing and not found in Cucrash.

    >
    >No, they could even be done in earlier versions of Cubase, I use both
    >programs on a regular basis.
    >
    >Ap
    >



    Bullshit. You can't move audio the way you can in Logic now. Go back
    and read up some more. You can eidt audio the way you do midi!
    Incredible!

    http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/logicpro/

    Flex Time is a collection of tools that allows you to quickly
    manipulate the timing and tempo of your recording for the tightest
    performance possible. Use the new Flex Tool to easily move the
    individual beats on a waveform — forget all that tedious splicing and
    editing. Flex Time combines beat slicing and elastic audio techniques
    into a single workflow. And you no longer have to master different
    techniques to correct drum, vocal, guitar, or any other kind of
    tracks. Best of all, your edits are always rendered in real time, even
    when you’re using the highest-quality setting.

    Audio Quantize lets you fix the timing of an entire performance in one
    step, aligning notes and beats to a musical grid. Want to match your
    bass line to the feel of your drums? You can transfer the rhythmic
    feel of one track to another by creating a Groove template from the
    source track and applying it as a grid.
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    On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:46:13 GMT, (Aphelion)
    wrote:

    >On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:52:42 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:
    >
    >>jack-ass ranting on about something that has nothing to do with the
    >>group. Ha ha...I'm enjoying this....LL

    >
    >
    >Yeah man, I feel 10 years younger... like 50!
    >
    >haha.....
    >
    >I've been having to use Logic (which used to be a great program) for
    >some compatibility projects which means I have to deal with Mac folks.
    >
    >My God! they are a snotty, holier than thou group.
    >There are a few knowledgeable nice folks there but they are far
    >outnumbered by the Mac fanboyz, each one a genius but somehow can't
    >figure out the simplest things.



    Perhaps you need to take a look in the mirror at yourself. You seem
    very arrogant and no wonder people are rude to you. Apple OSX is the
    best platform with the lowest latecy for music these days. Windows
    even runs FASTER on a MAC! No wonder you think Apple users are better
    than you...




    >
    >The current fix for most Macs is a complete reinstall of the OS, my
    >how things have changed.


    Bullcrap. You're still stuck in the 90's. Again, read the Cubase
    forums for all the problems. People are still wishing for them to fix
    bugs in sx2! Cubase releases fancy updates but things continue to
    break. Apple makes the OS and the Sequencer - they know all the
    secrets. Cubase does not know the Windows secrets and has to rely on
    Asio causing more latency and problems.

    Sorry, you lose..........
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    On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:26:00 -0700, Guy <>
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    >On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:34:09 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:
    >
    >>On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
    >>wrote:
    >>
    >>>Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >>>
    >>>http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >>>
    >>>Impressive...

    >>
    >>You reckon? So I ditch my pc, laptop and half my plug-ins..go Mac and
    >>all will be well? Nah..I'm staying put...Cubase does I want it to. It
    >>aint perfect but better the devil I know.............LL

    >
    >
    >LOL at dongle boy.
    >
    >How's your dongle doing?
    >
    >Logic - no dongle needed... at least Apple doesn't treat their
    >customers like thieves.



    Again - NO DONGLE HERE! Another protection layer that slows the music
    process.

    LOL

    I look at all these bad dongle posts and laugh. No such problem here.
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    Guy wrote:
    > On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:34:09 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:
    >
    >> On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >>>
    >>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >>>
    >>> Impressive...

    >>
    >> You reckon? So I ditch my pc, laptop and half my plug-ins..go Mac and
    >> all will be well? Nah..I'm staying put...Cubase does I want it to. It
    >> aint perfect but better the devil I know.............LL

    >
    >
    > LOL at dongle boy.
    >
    > How's your dongle doing?
    >
    > Logic - no dongle needed... at least Apple doesn't treat their
    > customers like thieves.


    Oh, there´s no dongle needed for UNlogic? I´m gonna have to tell that to my
    friend, who went back home from his project studio several times, ´cause he
    forgot his dongle for Logic Pro 7. If he just had known, his software also
    runs withOUT the dongle, we might have saved a few hours! Unfortunately his
    ibook and the Logic7 software also didn´t know, that the Logic version
    installed onto it, would run
    without the required dongle.
    Yeah, Logic 8 (and upwards obviously) doesn´t need a dongle anymore. But
    until Logic 7, you were
    lost without the dongle... and you can never be sure, that they don´t ever
    go back to the dongle "security" somewhen.

    So, better stick to the facts, little fanboy and don´t make it sound like
    Apple never "treated their customers like thieves", because they did!!!

    Don´t get me wrong: I´m definitely not a fan of dongles! ...but I can
    understand, that software manufacturers rely on them.


    Phil
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    On Aug 8, 11:22 pm, Guy <> wrote:
    > Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to


    Could you be more specific - unless you're talking about the groovy
    XBOX 360 game interface - is there anything it does that cubase hasn't
    been doing since C5?

    My breath is baited in anticipation.


    >
    > http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >
    > Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >
    > Impressive...
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    "Phil W" <> wrote in message
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    > Guy wrote:
    >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:34:09 +0100, lancelightning <> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:53 -0700, Guy <>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Looks like Cubase has a lot to catch up to
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/what-is/
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Look at all that stuff you can do to the audio now!
    >>>>
    >>>> Impressive...
    >>>
    >>> You reckon? So I ditch my pc, laptop and half my plug-ins..go Mac and
    >>> all will be well? Nah..I'm staying put...Cubase does I want it to. It
    >>> aint perfect but better the devil I know.............LL

    >>
    >>
    >> LOL at dongle boy.
    >>
    >> How's your dongle doing?
    >>
    >> Logic - no dongle needed... at least Apple doesn't treat their
    >> customers like thieves.

    >
    > Oh, there´s no dongle needed for UNlogic? I´m gonna have to tell that to
    > my
    > friend, who went back home from his project studio several times, ´cause
    > he
    > forgot his dongle for Logic Pro 7. If he just had known, his software also
    > runs withOUT the dongle, we might have saved a few hours! Unfortunately
    > his
    > ibook and the Logic7 software also didn´t know, that the Logic version
    > installed onto it, would run
    > without the required dongle.
    > Yeah, Logic 8 (and upwards obviously) doesn´t need a dongle anymore. But
    > until Logic 7, you were
    > lost without the dongle... and you can never be sure, that they don´t ever
    > go back to the dongle "security" somewhen.
    >
    > So, better stick to the facts, little fanboy and don´t make it sound like
    > Apple never "treated their customers like thieves", because they did!!!
    >
    > Don´t get me wrong: I´m definitely not a fan of dongles! ...but I can
    > understand, that software manufacturers rely on them.
    >


    This same troll - trhis Guy -runs the same tired Logic crap every year or so
    in a.s.c. I've seen at least two iterations.

    He has some kind of personality disorder.
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