midi recording sync problem

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  1. Rui Guest

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    cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.
    I can play and monitor and listen perfectly, but when I record the
    midi (even without monitoring or without any out oudio device assigned
    to it, it records "in advance", lots of seconds. The first seconds I
    play, all the notes get stacked up in hte first instant, and after
    some seconds (it varies a little) they begin getting recorded, lets
    say, 8 seconds earlier. How can I fix this?? please help me
    Thanks in advance

    Rui
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  2. Cyberserf Guest

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    On Jan 19, 1:42 pm, Rui <> wrote:
    > cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.
    > I can play and monitor and listen perfectly, but when I record the
    > midi (even without monitoring or without any out oudio device assigned
    > to it, it records "in advance", lots of seconds. The first seconds I
    > play, all the notes get stacked up in hte first instant, and after
    > some seconds (it varies a little) they begin getting recorded, lets
    > say, 8 seconds earlier. How can I fix this?? please help me
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Rui


    Rui,

    There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    (assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).

    HTH, CS
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    On 19 ene, 16:50, Cyberserf <> wrote:
    > On Jan 19, 1:42 pm, Rui <> wrote:
    >
    > > cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.
    > > I can play and monitor and listen perfectly, but when I record the
    > > midi (even without monitoring or without any out oudio device assigned
    > > to it, it records "in advance", lots of seconds. The first seconds I
    > > play, all the notes get stacked up in hte first instant, and after
    > > some seconds (it varies a little) they begin getting recorded, lets
    > > say, 8 seconds earlier. How can I fix this?? please help me
    > > Thanks in advance

    >
    > > Rui

    >
    > Rui,
    >
    > There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    > like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    > Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    > for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    > (assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).
    >
    > HTH, CS


    thanks a lot. but it didn't help :S. Any other suggestion?
  4. Phil W Guest

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    Cyberserf wrote:

    > There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    > like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    > Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    > for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    > (assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).


    I´ve always understood, that "pressing" this icon switches delay
    compensation OFF?! Did I get something wrong here?

    BTW: I mainly do audio recording and processing, very seldomly some very
    little MIDI stuff.
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  5. Phil W Guest

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    Rui wrote:
    > cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.


    It may be helpful to know which particular interface you´re using, cause
    they all have different drivers and these can also be the cause for such
    problems.
    Though in this case, it´s probably a program issue...
  6. Rui Guest

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    On 19 ene, 22:42, "Phil W" <> wrote:
    > Rui wrote:
    > > cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.

    >
    > It may be helpful to know which particular interface you´re using, cause
    > they all have different drivers and these can also be the cause for such
    > problems.
    > Though in this case, it´s probably a program issue...


    well, thing is i haven't found much of that interface on the web...
    I'm from argentina,, its HSR, it says 1.1 interface midi-usb, 16
    channels midi i/o
  7. Aphelion Guest

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    On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:50:42 -0800 (PST), Cyberserf
    <> wrote:

    >On Jan 19, 1:42=A0pm, Rui <> wrote:
    >> cubase sx3. Piano connected through a midi-usb interface.
    >> I can play and monitor and listen perfectly, but when I record the
    >> midi (even without monitoring or without any out oudio device assigned
    >> to it, it records "in advance", lots of seconds. The first seconds I
    >> play, all the notes get stacked up in hte first instant, and after
    >> some seconds (it varies a little) they begin getting recorded, lets
    >> say, 8 seconds earlier. How can I fix this?? please help me
    >> Thanks in advance
    >>
    >> Rui

    >
    >Rui,
    >
    >There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    >like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    >Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    >for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    >(assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).



    NO, that is wrong, it's only used when recording with certain
    -plugins- that induce delay.

    Ap
  8. Aphelion Guest

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    On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:58:51 -0800 (PST), Rui <>
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    In SX3 it's probably one of two things.

    1.

    Look under Devices/Device Setup/Direct Music

    At the bottom will be a checkbox --- Use System Timestamp.

    Select that, exit Cubase then reboot Cubase, see if that helps.

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    2.

    If it doesn't search the web under "ignoreportfilter" for more info.

    Quickly-

    There is a 0 byte file (ignoreportfilter) located in a folder called
    MIDI Port Enabler in the Cubase SX3 directory, copy or move it out of
    the directory into the SX3 root directory. Now there will be more MIDI
    interface ports available, one of these may perform better.

    Ap
  9. Cyberserf Guest

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    On Jan 19, 8:37 pm, "Phil W" <> wrote:
    > Cyberserf wrote:
    > > There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    > > like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    > > Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    > > for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    > > (assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).

    >
    > I´ve always understood, that "pressing" this icon switches delay
    > compensation OFF?! Did I get something wrong here?
    >
    > BTW: I mainly do audio recording and processing, very seldomly some very
    > little MIDI stuff.


    I use it with my VSTi instruments . For instance, my drum sequencer
    which is triggered by my DR770 through a MIDI interface. When the icon
    is orange (engaged), it allows the sampled sound to trigger at the
    same time as the audio directly monitored from the DR770...if it is
    not engaged, it is out of sync (the audio coming before the MIDI
    triggered sample). The amount of latency compensation can be set in
    your preferences/VST section (under the file menu). This is different
    from a Midi Sync issue which has more to do with getting many Midi
    instruments playing together in time...you can only have one master
    clock keeping the beat.

    -CS
  10. Rui Guest

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    On 20 ene, 17:09, Cyberserf <> wrote:
    > On Jan 19, 8:37 pm, "Phil W" <> wrote:
    >
    > > Cyberserf wrote:
    > > > There is a button at the top of your menu (left hand side) which looks
    > > > like a clock with a frame around it labelled "Constrain Delay
    > > > Compensation". Click it (it will turn orange). This will compensate
    > > > for your latency and your midi and audio should now be locked
    > > > (assuming ASIO or WDM drivers).

    >
    > > I´ve always understood, that "pressing" this icon switches delay
    > > compensation OFF?! Did I get something wrong here?

    >
    > > BTW: I mainly do audio recording and processing, very seldomly some very
    > > little MIDI stuff.

    >
    > I use it with my VSTi instruments . For instance, my drum sequencer
    > which is triggered by my DR770 through a MIDI interface. When the icon
    > is orange (engaged), it allows the sampled sound to trigger at the
    > same time as the audio directly monitored from the DR770...if it is
    > not engaged, it is out of sync (the audio coming before the MIDI
    > triggered sample). The amount of latency compensation can be set in
    > your preferences/VST section (under the file menu). This is different
    > from a Midi Sync issue which has more to do with getting many Midi
    > instruments playing together in time...you can only have one master
    > clock keeping the beat.
    >
    > -CS


    yeah, all this is interesting and i'm sure i'll start investigating
    and asking soon, but my problem was another, it was waaaay bigger and
    had nothing to do with monitoring. It seeeeeeeeems it was sloved by
    creating the ignoreportfilter empty file in the main directory and
    selecting the emulated midi in that appeared afterwards, but i haven't
    had muuuch time to check and recheck

    Thanks a lot all of you.. ;)
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