My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used IK's Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st time I did anything with Sonar 8.5. http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287
Cool! Nice piano work. It's a bit on the dry / close side. So where's the video? S "kitekrazy" <> wrote in message news:ialfo8$f68$-september.org... > My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used > IK's Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. > > This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st time I did anything with Sonar 8.5. > > http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 >
kitekrazy was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 10/31/2010 at 9:29:58 PM and now feels very oogly boogly: > My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short > film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used IK's > Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. > > This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st time > I did anything with Sonar 8.5. > > http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 > The piano is sweet and pretty. Nice and gentle flow. Being as the pianissimo of a piano retains its character even when volume is turned up, I would have preferred this to be a louder file. -- On the flip-side, BennyG
On 11/1/2010 3:36 PM, Ben Goldman wrote: > kitekrazy was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 10/31/2010 at 9:29:58 PM and now > feels very oogly boogly: > >> My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short >> film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used IK's >> Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. >> >> This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st time >> I did anything with Sonar 8.5. >> >> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 >> > > The piano is sweet and pretty. Nice and gentle flow. > > Being as the pianissimo of a piano retains its character even when > volume is turned up, I would have preferred this to be a louder file. > I found that file on the web. I think I used Sampletekks Black Grand Ambient in Kontakt. Chopped up some of the midi and used Miroslav. I really didn't have enough time to pencil that Prelude in midi and I was able to play that prelude about 20 years ago. We also looped the woodwind parts for the credits. That was the first time I used the Miroslav. It's actually a nice library for it's size. Shame it's only limited to 16 channels. I may eventually buy the Reason Refill. One thing that has annoyed me about Sonar is how the volumes of 3rd party VSTs are very inconsistent.
kitekrazy wrote: > On 11/1/2010 3:36 PM, Ben Goldman wrote: > > kitekrazy was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 10/31/2010 at 9:29:58 PM and > > now feels very oogly boogly: > > > > > My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short > > > film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used > > > IK's Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. > > > > > > This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st > > > time I did anything with Sonar 8.5. > > > > >> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 > > > > > > > The piano is sweet and pretty. Nice and gentle flow. > > > > Being as the pianissimo of a piano retains its character even when > > volume is turned up, I would have preferred this to be a louder > > file. > > > > I found that file on the web. I think I used Sampletekks Black Grand > Ambient in Kontakt. Chopped up some of the midi and used Miroslav. I > really didn't have enough time to pencil that Prelude in midi and I > was able to play that prelude about 20 years ago. > > We also looped the woodwind parts for the credits. > > That was the first time I used the Miroslav. It's actually a nice > library for it's size. Shame it's only limited to 16 channels. I may > eventually buy the Reason Refill. > > One thing that has annoyed me about Sonar is how the volumes of 3rd > party VSTs are very inconsistent. Using VSTs is still a little new for me. I'm having a blast. The fist thing I ever learned was how to play a VST live with my controller keyboard. Then I learned how to take MIDI files I already made and use VSTs on them. I'd like to play a VST and record it live. I don't remember how to do that and am about to get the manual out. Is Reason user friendly? I got to darn tired of wrestling with Garritan Personal Orchestra and have blown it out of my system as best I can. I'd love to use an orchestral suite that's easier than Kontakt. I'm sick and tired of Native Instruments. -- Cheers, Ben
On 11/1/2010 4:35 AM, Steve_Karl wrote: > Cool! > Nice piano work. It's a bit on the dry / close side. > > So where's the video? > > S > Here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yixTUu5q01U > > "kitekrazy"<> wrote in message news:ialfo8$f68$-september.org... >> My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used >> IK's Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. >> >> This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st time I did anything with Sonar 8.5. >> >> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 >> > >
On 11/1/2010 8:58 PM, Benjamin Goldman wrote: > kitekrazy wrote: > >> On 11/1/2010 3:36 PM, Ben Goldman wrote: >>> kitekrazy was gettin' jiggy wit' it on 10/31/2010 at 9:29:58 PM and >>> now feels very oogly boogly: >>> >>>> My brother is a film student so I scored some music for his short >>>> film. It's Chopin's Raindrop Prelude, edited and looped. I used >>>> IK's Miroslav Philharmonic to orchestrate some sections. >>>> >>>> This is the first time I've worked with video inside Sonar, 1st >>>> time I did anything with Sonar 8.5. >>>> >>>> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9824287 >>>> >>> >>> The piano is sweet and pretty. Nice and gentle flow. >>> >>> Being as the pianissimo of a piano retains its character even when >>> volume is turned up, I would have preferred this to be a louder >>> file. >>> >> >> I found that file on the web. I think I used Sampletekks Black Grand >> Ambient in Kontakt. Chopped up some of the midi and used Miroslav. I >> really didn't have enough time to pencil that Prelude in midi and I >> was able to play that prelude about 20 years ago. >> >> We also looped the woodwind parts for the credits. >> >> That was the first time I used the Miroslav. It's actually a nice >> library for it's size. Shame it's only limited to 16 channels. I may >> eventually buy the Reason Refill. >> >> One thing that has annoyed me about Sonar is how the volumes of 3rd >> party VSTs are very inconsistent. > > Using VSTs is still a little new for me. I'm having a blast. > > The fist thing I ever learned was how to play a VST live with my > controller keyboard. Then I learned how to take MIDI files I already > made and use VSTs on them. > > I'd like to play a VST and record it live. I don't remember how to do > that and am about to get the manual out. > > Is Reason user friendly? I got to darn tired of wrestling with > Garritan Personal Orchestra and have blown it out of my system as best > I can. Reason is a different kind of animal. It doesn't allow for 3rd party VSTs. The piano roll sucks. It's geared for electronica music. > > I'd love to use an orchestral suite that's easier than Kontakt. I'm > sick and tired of Native Instruments. > Orchestral suites are not easy to use since many instruments have many articulations. Miroslav and GPO are about as easy as you can get.
"kitekrazy" <> wrote in message news:iaq4nf$la3$-september.org... > Orchestral suites are not easy to use since many instruments have many articulations. Miroslav and GPO are about as easy as you > can get. That can be the case, but once one does the initial exploration of the library and develop a template things become much easier. I can't imagine not starting from my default template, which developed over the course of 3 or so yrs. and also 10 or more pieces. It would be like starting over from scratch. I also make a point of writing the "exact title" of the articulation in the track name and also grouping orchestral sections by track folder, and leaving 5 or more PRV windows open and locked. During the course of writing I'll sometimes add or remove an articulation or 2 because I'm finding better ways to accomplish the task. Then, at the end of each composition I'll wipe all data *after* the initial track set up controllers, which are usually CC:11 and occasionally CC:07, erase all tempo changes using the tempo window, but of course I keep my 6 to 8 tracks of RYO Metronome and just re adjust the volume envelopes when I begin the next composition. After wiping the data I'll save it as SongName_Clean_Template.cwp and it will be available as a starting point for any composition from here to when ever. I can, of course, go back to any SongName_Clean_Template.cwp and begin a composition based on my state of template development at that point in time. My rig is 1 master machine running Sonar 4.0.2 and 3 satellite machines running GS3 and Forte' Ensemble. I'm using Kirk Hunter Emerald, Giga version with sections split out by machine, All Strings and Percussion on \\a64, all brass and wwinds on \\nf7s, all pianos, Garritan Giga Harp, and extra ethnic sounds and percussion on \\b64 . The GS3 performance files develop the same was as the Sonar templates, saving 3 or 4 per composition as SongName_3.gsp etc. which allows me to find the highest number of any SongName on the 3 farm animals, load up SongName_Clean_Template.cwp to start from that place in time, and at that point I have a full Orchestra on stage, tuned and balanced for that era in my development, ready to do my bidding. Garritan and the other may be as simple as it gets, ... well ... no ... a farfisa organ is much simpler, but you pay a price for the simplicity, and that is it will sound simple. A lib. with a great number of various really fine and expressive articulations doesn't necessitate using them all, or even remembering what they are and it doesn't make it imperative that there's a long setup time figuring out what to use and where to use it, every time you begin a new composition. That's what the process of building a template that develops over the course of years is for. One thing that has helped me a lot was having early life hands on experience with the real instruments ... brass, wwings, strings, percussion etc. and knowing how they are played. With a good lib. it's relatively easy to emulate the mechanics of the instrument to produce a believable performance. SK
"Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:iarhcu$aia$-september.org... > > "kitekrazy" <> wrote in message news:iaq4nf$la3$-september.org... > > > > Orchestral suites are not easy to use since many instruments have many articulations. Miroslav and GPO are about as easy as you > > can get. > > That can be the case, but once one does the initial exploration of the library > and develop a template things become much easier. > > I can't imagine not starting from my default template, which developed over the course > of 3 or so yrs. and also 10 or more pieces. It would be like starting over from scratch. > > I also make a point of writing the "exact title" of the articulation in the track name and also > grouping orchestral sections by track folder, and leaving 5 or more PRV windows open and locked. > > During the course of writing I'll sometimes add or remove an articulation or 2 because I'm finding better > ways to accomplish the task. > > Then, at the end of each composition I'll wipe all data *after* the initial track set up controllers, which are usually > CC:11 and occasionally CC:07, erase all tempo changes using the tempo window, but of course I keep my > 6 to 8 tracks of RYO Metronome and just re adjust the volume envelopes when I begin the next composition. > > After wiping the data I'll save it as SongName_Clean_Template.cwp and it will be available as a starting point for > any composition from here to when ever. I can, of course, go back to any SongName_Clean_Template.cwp and > begin a composition based on my state of template development at that point in time. > > My rig is 1 master machine running Sonar 4.0.2 and 3 satellite machines running GS3 and Forte' Ensemble. > I'm using Kirk Hunter Emerald, Giga version with sections split out by machine, All Strings and Percussion > on \\a64, all brass and wwinds on \\nf7s, all pianos, Garritan Giga Harp, and extra ethnic sounds and percussion on \\b64 . > > The GS3 performance files develop the same was as the Sonar templates, saving 3 or 4 per composition as SongName_3.gsp > etc. which allows me to find the highest number of any SongName on the 3 farm animals, load up SongName_Clean_Template.cwp > to start from that place in time, and at that point I have a full Orchestra on stage, tuned and balanced for that era in my > development, > ready to do my bidding. > > Garritan and the other may be as simple as it gets, ... well ... no ... a farfisa organ is much simpler, but you pay a price for the > simplicity, > and that is it will sound simple. > > A lib. with a great number of various really fine and expressive articulations doesn't necessitate using them all, or even > remembering what they are > and it doesn't make it imperative that there's a long setup time figuring out what to use and where to use it, every time you begin > a new composition. > That's what the process of building a template that develops over the course of years is for. > > One thing that has helped me a lot was having early life hands on experience with the real instruments ... brass, wwings, strings, > percussion etc. > and knowing how they are played. With a good lib. it's relatively easy to emulate the mechanics of the instrument to produce a > believable performance. Good post!! Poly
