too excited! 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. stupid.....) -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:41:28 -0000, "Gill Smith" <> wrote: >too excited! > >'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow > >probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why everything >doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. stupid.....) I'm like that wheneverI have a new piece of kit on the way. Its like meeting a new girlfiend/boyfriend!!...yeah even at my age!! You know what I mean though...these are the tools of our trade and its great when we have something new to work with. I hope the new soundcard is good....Do let us know....LL
Gill Smith: > too excited! > > 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow > > probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why > everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. > stupid.....) Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) Whichever sound card it may be, though...
"lancelightning" <> wrote in message news:... > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:41:28 -0000, "Gill Smith" > <> wrote: > >>too excited! >> >>'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow >> >>probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why everything >>doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. stupid.....) > > I'm like that wheneverI have a new piece of kit on the way. Its like > meeting a new girlfiend/boyfriend!!...yeah even at my age!! You know > what I mean though...these are the tools of our trade and its great > when we have something new to work with. > > I hope the new soundcard is good....Do let us know....LL I'll probably be all ove the ng with requests for help! anyway, the parcel's arrived must now make final recordings of a couple of instrumentals which sound OK with the present card, just in case....... -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
"Phil W" <> wrote in message news:4b7647c7$0$6587$-online.net... > Gill Smith: > >> too excited! >> >> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow >> >> probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why >> everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. >> stupid.....) > > Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) > Whichever sound card it may be, though... it's an M-Audio 2496 replacement for a really, really, *really* ancient SB 5.1 Audio card (IEE94 chips or something) -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:29:35 -0000, "Gill Smith" <> wrote: >"Phil W" <> wrote in message >news:4b7647c7$0$6587$-online.net... >> Gill Smith: >> >>> too excited! >>> >>> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow >>> >>> probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why >>> everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. >>> stupid.....) >> >> Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) >> Whichever sound card it may be, though... > >it's an M-Audio 2496 > >replacement for a really, really, *really* ancient SB 5.1 Audio card (IEE94 >chips or something) You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only have virtual instruments to play with. Which may sound a LITTLE better through the 2496, but only a little. What you have bought is a card capable of quicker response when playing VST instruments from a keyboard, and of input monitoring through effects with minimal delay. Not a new set of sounds. CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
"Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message news... > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:29:35 -0000, "Gill Smith" > <> wrote: > >>"Phil W" <> wrote in message >>news:4b7647c7$0$6587$-online.net... >>> Gill Smith: >>> >>>> too excited! >>>> >>>> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow >>>> >>>> probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why >>>> everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. >>>> stupid.....) >>> >>> Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) >>> Whichever sound card it may be, though... >> >>it's an M-Audio 2496 >> >>replacement for a really, really, *really* ancient SB 5.1 Audio card >>(IEE94 >>chips or something) > > > You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only > have virtual instruments to play with. Which may sound a LITTLE > better through the 2496, but only a little. > > What you have bought is a card capable of quicker response when > playing VST instruments from a keyboard, and of input monitoring > through effects with minimal delay. Not a new set of sounds. > > CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm all I've got at the moment is silence, thanks to RCA/whatever jack mismatch -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
On Feb 13, 8:13 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote: > "Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message > > news... > > > > > > > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:29:35 -0000, "Gill Smith" > > <> wrote: > > >>"Phil W" <> wrote in message > >>news:4b7647c7$0$6587$-online.net... > >>> Gill Smith: > > >>>> too excited! > > >>>> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow > > >>>> probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why > >>>> everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. > >>>> stupid.....) > > >>> Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) > >>> Whichever sound card it may be, though... > > >>it's an M-Audio 2496 > > >>replacement for a really, really, *really* ancient SB 5.1 Audio card > >>(IEE94 > >>chips or something) > > > You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only > > have virtual instruments to play with. Which may sound a LITTLE > > better through the 2496, but only a little. > > > What you have bought is a card capable of quicker response when > > playing VST instruments from a keyboard, and of input monitoring > > through effects with minimal delay. Not a new set of sounds. > > > CubaseFAQ page:http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm > > all I've got at the moment is silence, thanks to RCA/whatever jack mismatch > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/ OK, ivst's are cool but why is everyone so opposed to an actual keyboard these days. I think its great that I have the halion thing running on my mac. I don't mind the sounds and if fact they are pretty good but I have 3, 88 key keyboards so I don't use the ivst much. I bought a yamaha with unreal sounds new for about 1200 a while back. I just looked and it is now available used in perfect condition for about 500-600 so with all the headache of getting something to run fast enough on a $1000 sound board, it just seems smarter to buy a $500 killer 88 key keyboard. Like I said in the front, I don't get it - not saying there is no reason.......
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:32:36 -0800 (PST), Danny T <> wrote: >OK, ivst's are cool but why is everyone so opposed to an actual >keyboard these days. I think its great that I have the halion thing >running on my mac. I don't mind the sounds and if fact they are pretty >good but I have 3, 88 key keyboards so I don't use the ivst much. I >bought a yamaha with unreal sounds new for about 1200 a while back. I >just looked and it is now available used in perfect condition for >about 500-600 so with all the headache of getting something to run >fast enough on a $1000 sound board, it just seems smarter to buy a >$500 killer 88 key keyboard. > >Like I said in the front, I don't get it - not saying there is no >reason....... Yeah, that's the way we all used to do it. Lots of external MIDI keyboards and modules, a multi-port MIDI interface, run the sounds individually to audio tracks for processing or just run them all at once through an external mixer... It worked. CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
On Feb 13, 10:18 am, Laurence Payne <> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:32:36 -0800 (PST), Danny T > > <> wrote: > >OK, ivst's are cool but why is everyone so opposed to an actual > >keyboard these days. I think its great that I have the halion thing > >running on my mac. I don't mind the sounds and if fact they are pretty > >good but I have 3, 88 key keyboards so I don't use the ivst much. I > >bought a yamaha with unreal sounds new for about 1200 a while back. I > >just looked and it is now available used in perfect condition for > >about 500-600 so with all the headache of getting something to run > >fast enough on a $1000 sound board, it just seems smarter to buy a > >$500 killer 88 key keyboard. > > >Like I said in the front, I don't get it - not saying there is no > >reason....... > > Yeah, that's the way we all used to do it. Lots of external MIDI > keyboards and modules, a multi-port MIDI interface, run the sounds > individually to audio tracks for processing or just run them all at > once through an external mixer... It worked. > > CubaseFAQ page:http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm actually, we use to play one track at a time onto a 2 inch tape.... I might be a little older then you I remember when the first midi DX7 hit the stores. I was in Hawaii and flew over to Japan to pick one up - then I had to hunt for a power supply. It did note on and off but that was about it. I swore it was going to kill music, and it did but that is another rant - I think that if you complicate the computers to the point that they overload and you have to worry about something then you're defeating the purpose. Those iVST things are cool but I have only ever used them for a click track. I can't play the sound well enough though my keyboard to make it right. I get a delay going that screws everything up. I have tried to play the keyboard part and then swap sounds but only a few times and didn't really need to, just thought I would try. The keyboards that are out today are really great. The action is good and the sounds are too. Since they are so cheap, you can use them for gigs and they really don't take up that much space, why is it that people want to go to software? Is is a matter of the few dollar cheaper or is is more of a want to just be the coolest kid on the block? I don't know anyone personally that doesn't have the space to load in a few more keyboards. In the case of a studio, it looks better anyway and for a small place like an apartment, my opinion is that having an instrument or two in the room makes it feel better anyway. I picked up a yamaha P-80 keyboard a while back. I think I was chuckling here at the price. I got it for $200 because is had a few broken keys and then when I went to look for new keys, I found that Yamaha had it under warranty because of a fault in manufacturing and they replaced the entire key action for free. It has sounds that are very usable, its light weight and has 88 keys. Its a perfect gig board and will likely make music for years to come so for even 3-400, why would someone worry so much about all the soundboard/memory/ram/crash issues you get - that is really my question. I don't get it. I'm really not knocking anyone here, I'm just pondering the idea of why.
"Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message news... > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 12:29:35 -0000, "Gill Smith" > <> wrote: > >>"Phil W" <> wrote in message >>news:4b7647c7$0$6587$-online.net... >>> Gill Smith: >>> >>>> too excited! >>>> >>>> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow >>>> >>>> probably no sleep the nights after, trying to figure out why >>>> everything doesn't sound soooooooo much better (it's the music. >>>> stupid.....) >>> >>> Well, then have good fun with your new toy! ;-) >>> Whichever sound card it may be, though... >> >>it's an M-Audio 2496 >> >>replacement for a really, really, *really* ancient SB 5.1 Audio card >>(IEE94 >>chips or something) > > > You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only > have virtual instruments to play with. can't argue with that chiefly because no sound! that said, Cubase certainly records something from my MIDI kb onto a MIDI track because I can see the notes going onto it -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:36:46 -0800 (PST), Danny T <> wrote: > >actually, we use to play one track at a time onto a 2 inch tape.... I >might be a little older then you Maybe >I remember when the first midi DX7 hit the stores. I was in Hawaii and >flew over to Japan to pick one up - then I had to hunt for a power >supply. It did note on and off but that was about it. I swore it was >going to kill music, and it did but that is another rant - I think I was gigging with a Korg Polysix and a Rhodes then. Prophet 600 and DX7 hit the stores about the same time. Personally, I'm delighted to have replaced racks of keyboards, modules and effects by one keyboard, one computer. CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:14:29 -0000, "Gill Smith" <> wrote: >> You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only >> have virtual instruments to play with. > >can't argue with that > >chiefly because no sound! > >that said, Cubase certainly records something from my MIDI kb onto a MIDI >track because I can see the notes going onto it > Yup. It's happily recording MIDI note-on events. Now, what are you going to play with them? There's some good instruments in Cubase, as long as you have the current full version. CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
On Feb 13, 9:53 pm, Laurence Payne <> wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:36:46 -0800 (PST), Danny T > > <> wrote: > > >actually, we use to play one track at a time onto a 2 inch tape.... I > >might be a little older then you > > Maybe > > >I remember when the first midi DX7 hit the stores. I was in Hawaii and > >flew over to Japan to pick one up - then I had to hunt for a power > >supply. It did note on and off but that was about it. I swore it was > >going to kill music, and it did but that is another rant - > > I think I was gigging with a Korg Polysix and a Rhodes then. Prophet > 600 and DX7 hit the stores about the same time. > > Personally, I'm delighted to have replaced racks of keyboards, modules > and effects by one keyboard, one computer. > > CubaseFAQ page:http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm I bought a Korg Poly 6 from guitar center in hollywood CA back when they had the one store only and it was across from where the big one is now (it was a triangle like of lot.... Damn - I am old... See, if the boards weighed as much as my old stage 88 I'd see your point but they don't. My ancient Roland RD300 that I love, weighs a lot but my gig boards weigh 50 pounds or less. For memory sake, the Korg poly 6 came out at the same time as the juno 6. The DX7 was about 2 years later at least. I never had a Prophet 5 on account of the fact I was still paying for my keyboards back then. By the time I got sponsored it was a yamaha kx99 and one of those lame guitar style weenie boards that you held like a guitar. .... but we're just starting to get going here.... I had a Wurlitzer 206 Conversion Electric Piano stacked on top of my Rhodes stage 88. That was back when you actually had to slide levers and memory was in your head!
"Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message news:... > On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:14:29 -0000, "Gill Smith" > <> wrote: > >>> You do realise there's no onboard synth on your new card? You'll only >>> have virtual instruments to play with. >> >>can't argue with that >> >>chiefly because no sound! >> >>that said, Cubase certainly records something from my MIDI kb onto a MIDI >>track because I can see the notes going onto it >> > > Yup. It's happily recording MIDI note-on events. Now, what are you > going to play with them? There's some good instruments in Cubase, as > long as you have the current full version. right now the problem, even without the adapters, is everything appears to be working, with audio levels happily bouncing around everywhere except trying to record *anything* onto an audio track (i.e. even audiotrack-to-audiotrack recordings) think I've covered the obvious things (in/out: ASIO Multimedia Driver Stereo in/out) the last resort is the nuclear option: re-install Cubase with the new soundcard already installed the good news: last night I went to bed thinking I might be facing a £300+ bill - this morning, *I* fixed my glasses! -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:22:02 -0000, "Gill Smith" <> wrote: >> Yup. It's happily recording MIDI note-on events. Now, what are you >> going to play with them? There's some good instruments in Cubase, as >> long as you have the current full version. > >right now the problem, even without the adapters, is everything appears to >be working, with audio levels happily bouncing around everywhere > >except trying to record *anything* onto an audio track (i.e. even >audiotrack-to-audiotrack recordings) > >think I've covered the obvious things (in/out: ASIO Multimedia Driver Stereo >in/out) Your chosen soundcard driver in Cubase should be called something like "M-Audio ASIO" not "ASIO Multimedia". But choosing the wrong one would merely revert performance to the level of your old SoundBlaster, not stop things working completely! Maybe you need to look at the Input and Output Bus setup page in Cubase. If you tell us what version of Cubase you have, someone can advise exactly where to do this. Your SoundBlaster probably had a "What You Hear" option as Record Input. You won't find this in the M-Audio Control Panel. In fact, all you need to do there is leave things strictly alone. Cubase will take care of your monitor routing. Don't break it! CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
[OT] iTunes (was: no sleep tonight) Gill Smith a écrit : > "lancelightning" <> wrote in message > news:... >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:41:28 -0000, "Gill Smith" >> <> wrote: >> >>> too excited! >>> >>> 'new' (i.e. used) sound card arrives tomorrow Hi Gill, I noticed you put a few tunes on iTunes for sale. Could you briefly give us the things to know in order to do the same? Why you are happy and why you are less happy? Are there any tricsk (like if you don't sell anything you have to give your house to Apple in return for the exposure they gave you) ;-) I always thought it was a waste of time to put music on sale on something like iTunes when you were not "famous" (well you kniow what I mean). But I might be wrong. And most of all: I don't think I realised that one *could* sell music on iTunes without being famous. Have you sold copies of your work yet? (please don't answer to this last question if you think it's indiscrete). Thx. I'm following your m-audio adventures ;-) Like others already said, the biggest progress you will notice is the latency when you use the ASIO driver. It will allow you to play VSTi like it wasnot possible at all with you old card. Provided you have powerfull enough a computer (is that a correct sentence?). Huey
"Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message > Your chosen soundcard driver in Cubase should be called something like > "M-Audio ASIO" not "ASIO Multimedia". that's what I thought but ASIO Multimedia has been the sole 'option', throuhout several switch-ons and switch-offs until now just switched on my computer and new in and out Stereo options have suddenly appeared - though still not M-Audio ASIO I've noticed this before with Cubase (SX3) that it seems to 'learn' -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Re: [OT] iTunes (was: no sleep tonight) "Hueyduck" <> wrote in message news:4b78325c$0$9106$... > Hi Gill, > > I noticed you put a few tunes on iTunes for sale. > Could you briefly give us the things to know in order to do the same? Why > you are happy and why you are less happy? Are there any tricsk (like if > you don't sell anything you have to give your house to Apple in return for > the exposure they gave you) ;-) > > I always thought it was a waste of time to put music on sale on something > like iTunes when you were not "famous" (well you kniow what I mean). But I > might be wrong. And most of all: I don't think I realised that one *could* > sell music on iTunes without being famous. > Have you sold copies of your work yet? (please don't answer to this last > question if you think it's indiscrete). I make about 10 US dollars a year! I use Tunecore to upload my stuff http://www.tunecore.com/ it costs 10 US dollars for a single for an album (2 or more tracks), costs depend on how many tracks you want to uplload and how many digital stores (iTunes. Napster etc.) you upload to *********************remember************************** if you do cover versions (Summertime, the Beatles....), you'll need a Harry Fox licence and *you* will pay Harry Fox (10/15/20 cents) every time someone buys a 1 cent track via Napster! so best sell those on iTunes/Amazon *only*, where a minimum price ensures you will cover your costs > I'm following your m-audio adventures ;-) > Like others already said, the biggest progress you will notice is the > latency when you use the ASIO driver. It will allow you to play VSTi like > it wasnot possible at all with you old card. Provided you have powerfull > enough a computer (is that a correct sentence?). actually, latency was never a problem I'd always play in MIDI, then switch to VST *after* the notes were recorded onto a MIDI track but I rarely/never used VSt anyway - I found the sounds much inferior to MIDI -- http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
Gill Smith: > "Laurence Payne: >> Your chosen soundcard driver in Cubase should be called something >> like "M-Audio ASIO" not "ASIO Multimedia". > > that's what I thought > > but ASIO Multimedia has been the sole 'option', throuhout several > switch-ons and switch-offs > > until now > > just switched on my computer and new in and out Stereo options have > suddenly appeared - though still not M-Audio ASIO > > I've noticed this before with Cubase (SX3) that it seems to 'learn' Well, I own the same M-Audio 2496 card so... ;-) First off, the M-Audio driver installer "requires" a reboot (at least under Windows) and unless that´s happened, that device is "unknown" = not available for any program to use it. The same goes for Cubase. It scans for new stuff (audio devices, plug-ins and other stuff) on every start. So, if you install anything related to Cubase, while Cubase is running, it won´t show up until you quit the program and load it again. As you´re a Mac user, note that the program really needs to be quit! Only closing all program windows is not enough! If you´re not sure, perform a complete reboot and everything should be fine afterwards... Have fun with your new toy! Phil
