OT: Monitoring - adding a subwoofer?

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  1. S.O.D.D.I. Guest

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    I have a modest home studio set-up that is now computer-based, with only a
    single sampler and related FX still in the rack. It's all Cubase or other
    computer-based synth stuff.

    On the main computer (an Intel DualCore 2.4) , I am using an Echo Audiofire
    2 Firewire-based audio interface, and on the second computer, an Echo Darla
    card-based interface.

    My monitoring set-up is a pair of old Alesis Point Sevens and a matched
    Alesis RA-100 power amp - again, modest, running directly out of an old
    Samson MPL 2242 board.

    The Point Sevens are very sharp on the high end (which I like), but without
    any real bass response - they push air, but I'm getting almost no thump.

    This causes me to to over-EQ bass signals, resulting in a muddy mix with too
    much bass when I listen to mixes on another system or in the car (an old
    technique suggested by them guys over on r.a.p.).

    I don't have lots of money to replace the monitors and power amp, and I've
    been seeing a lot of cheap consumer subwoofers at the pawn shops.

    I know a subwoofer is going to be all bass, in a limited frequency range,
    with no "contour" - but would it "fill in the holes" on my missing bass
    frequencies?

    How would I hook a subwoofer in to my existing set-up while avoiding the
    dreaded Ys on the main?

    TIA for your help.

    I think I got the Swine Poo.
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    Re: Monitoring - adding a subwoofer?

    I have just been trying out an 80Watt hometheatre subwoofer with my set up.
    This accepts line in L and R or direct connections from amp speaker outputs.
    I took tape out from my mixer to the subwoofer (this is fixed so I have to
    adjust the level at the subwoofer) You may have a controllable out on your
    mixer - maybe the headphone out?

    It definitely makes up the missing lower octaves.

    I think I am going to get an SPL meter, (search google or ebay for sound
    level meter) . I have set up a midi file playing a sine wave in a VST synth
    woth notes going from C0 to about C3 ( all I can hear) to use as a tone
    generator. I can then balance the subwoofer out put to the rest of the room.







    "S.O.D.D.I." <> wrote in message
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    >I have a modest home studio set-up that is now computer-based, with only a
    >single sampler and related FX still in the rack. It's all Cubase or other
    >computer-based synth stuff.
    >
    > On the main computer (an Intel DualCore 2.4) , I am using an Echo
    > Audiofire 2 Firewire-based audio interface, and on the second computer, an
    > Echo Darla card-based interface.
    >
    > My monitoring set-up is a pair of old Alesis Point Sevens and a matched
    > Alesis RA-100 power amp - again, modest, running directly out of an old
    > Samson MPL 2242 board.
    >
    > The Point Sevens are very sharp on the high end (which I like), but
    > without any real bass response - they push air, but I'm getting almost no
    > thump.
    >
    > This causes me to to over-EQ bass signals, resulting in a muddy mix with
    > too much bass when I listen to mixes on another system or in the car (an
    > old technique suggested by them guys over on r.a.p.).
    >
    > I don't have lots of money to replace the monitors and power amp, and I've
    > been seeing a lot of cheap consumer subwoofers at the pawn shops.
    >
    > I know a subwoofer is going to be all bass, in a limited frequency range,
    > with no "contour" - but would it "fill in the holes" on my missing bass
    > frequencies?
    >
    > How would I hook a subwoofer in to my existing set-up while avoiding the
    > dreaded Ys on the main?
    >
    > TIA for your help.
    >
    > I think I got the Swine Poo.
    >
  3. Laurence Payne Guest

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    Re: Monitoring - adding a subwoofer?

    On Sat, 2 May 2009 13:25:59 -0400, "SSR" <> wrote:

    >I have just been trying out an 80Watt hometheatre subwoofer with my set up.
    >This accepts line in L and R or direct connections from amp speaker outputs.
    >I took tape out from my mixer to the subwoofer (this is fixed so I have to
    >adjust the level at the subwoofer) You may have a controllable out on your
    >mixer - maybe the headphone out?
    >
    >It definitely makes up the missing lower octaves.


    Depends how big the box is. A lot of the home theatre stuff adds ONE
    low note, rather like that Bose Wave thing. Initially impressive,
    then as you listen more....

    CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
  4. SSR Guest

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    Re: Monitoring - adding a subwoofer?

    Actually it does not much depend on the size, size has less to do with it
    than design and the quality of the components.

    The one note effect in hometheatre systems is more to do with the Dolby
    encoding of low rumble effects rather than a reflection of the subwoofer's
    frequency response.

    Using a sound level meter will reveal the frequency response including any
    room effects.

    The car system test is very valid - no point in producing a mix that sounds
    stellar on large studio monitors and then disappoints in 'real' usage.







    "Laurence Payne" <> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 2 May 2009 13:25:59 -0400, "SSR" <> wrote:
    >
    >>I have just been trying out an 80Watt hometheatre subwoofer with my set
    >>up.
    >>This accepts line in L and R or direct connections from amp speaker
    >>outputs.
    >>I took tape out from my mixer to the subwoofer (this is fixed so I have to
    >>adjust the level at the subwoofer) You may have a controllable out on your
    >>mixer - maybe the headphone out?
    >>
    >>It definitely makes up the missing lower octaves.

    >
    > Depends how big the box is. A lot of the home theatre stuff adds ONE
    > low note, rather like that Bose Wave thing. Initially impressive,
    > then as you listen more....
    >
    > CubaseFAQ page: http://www.laurencepayne.co.uk/CubaseFAQ.htm
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