Dylan wrote: > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > Cheers > > Dylan > The best I've used (but probably not the best out there) is the Steinway patch included with EastWest Symphonic Orchestra Silver. Works very well for someone on a limited budget such as myself.
Dylan wrote: > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > Cheers > > Dylan > > It's amazing that some people I know that are heavy into sampler apps are very picky about piano sounds while the average listener could not tell a GM midi patch from a Yamaha Grand.
Who made the sampled Yamaha? That's the one that got my attention. S "Dylan" <> wrote in message news:43bd1871$0$2702$... > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > Cheers > > Dylan > >
Yep. The Yamaha C7 Ivory. I've got Giga Piano and a Yamaha S90 and I think the S90s 3 Layer is becoming my favorite. I'd love to get a chance to mess with that Ivory C7. The bell like quality is really great. S "Steve Karl" <> wrote in message news:Sddvf.5601$WX3.424@trndny09... > Who made the sampled Yamaha? > That's the one that got my attention. > > S > > > "Dylan" <> wrote in message news:43bd1871$0$2702$... >> by the way >> What's everyone's favourite software piano >> >> Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? >> >> Cheers >> >> Dylan >> >> > >
I think it is only natural to be picky about piano sounds (and feels as they translate from your MIDI keyboard to the piano module in question) if you're a piano player and used to playing real acoustic pianos, where you'll also have developed your own preferences). As for my current preferences (note I'm using a Roland Rhodes MK80 for a controller -- definitely not ideal, but not horrible, either), I have not yet tried Akoustik Piano or Ivory, both of which sound very promising on paper (see Glen Hefner's very recent Akoustic Piano review at www.cakewalknet.com -- he seems to strongly prefer it to Ivory, but Keyboard Magazine's recent review puts them more at parity with some advantages for either product). The three products I have used, two of those quite a lot, include GigaPiano (originally acquired with GigaSampler LE, but now converted for use with KONTAKT), Best Service's Galaxy Steinway 5.1, and East West's/PMI's Boesendorfer 290. GigaPiano is based on a Yamaha grand, and was the first hardware or software piano emulation/sample set I found that made me want to switch from the Roland MKS-20 I'd been using prior to that. Basically, it felt like it played and responded more like a real acoustic piano to me, and I ended up using it on most all my recordings for several years. More recently I got the Galaxy Steinway and PMI Boesendorfer. I've always loved playing real Steinway pianos, above and beyond any other brands I've tried (and those include at least Yamaha, Baldwin, Young Chang, Kawai, Story & Clark, and others), and I've found myself using the Galaxy Steinway more often than not in recent projects, though there was one very recent one where I reverted to GigaPiano after trying both because it seemed to sound better for that project. I have yet to use the Boesendorfer in a real project, but I think that is a musical genres thing, where it would be great for certain styles, but, unfortunately, not the styles of the projects I've produced recently. In particular, it seems to me it would be best in a classical or new age-type setting, whereas most of what I do tends toward pop/rock or country. I also noticed there is a Steinway Piano, as well as one other type of piano whose make I don't recall off the top of my head (but it wasn't one of the ones I mentioned above), in the library included with KONTAKT 2, and the Steinway definitely sounded quite good in my one test of it to date. I think I may have even, at least temporarily pending trying other options, included it in the project I was working on at the time. That made me wonder if that particular piano might be the same one as the Steinway included in Akoustic Piano, or possibly some subset of it. I feel pretty good with the piano samples I do have and use at the moment, but, if I were in the market, or when I next get the chance to look around for possible additional options (with the budget to make it more than an exercise in curiosity), I'd definitely want to check out Akoustic Piano and Ivory, and wouldn't be at all surprised if I ended up going down the Akoustik Piano route based on my experience to date with NI products, which seem to pretty much always end up working out well for me, and being among the most used software instruments in my collection. (Besides KONTAKT, some of the products I use quite a bit from them include Elektrik Piano, B4, Pro53, and FM7, as well as a number of third party sample libraries based on KOMPAKT or KONTAKT, such as DFH2, GPO, and Garritan JABB.) Rick -- ===================================== Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~rickpaul MP3s: http://www.soundclick.com/rickpaul ===================================== "kitekrazy" <> wrote in message news:... > Dylan wrote: >> by the way >> What's everyone's favourite software piano >> >> Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? >> >> Cheers >> >> Dylan >> >> > > It's amazing that some people I know that are heavy into sampler apps are > very picky about piano sounds while the average listener could not tell a > GM midi patch from a Yamaha Grand.
Of all the ones I've used my favorite which I use for almost everything is the St. Concert of Edirol Super Quartet which also contains some nice electric piano sounds. That said I also like the Steinway piano samples in Garritan Personal Orchestra. -M.F. http://www.soundclick.com/michaelfanning "Dylan" <> wrote in message news:43bd1871$0$2702$... > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > Cheers > > Dylan > >
Dylan wrote: > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > Cheers > > Dylan don't laugh, maybe i've never had steak, but the piano that comes with superquartet i think is extremely convincing...(the first one in the bank)
Steve Karl wrote: > Yep. > The Yamaha C7 Ivory. > I've got Giga Piano and a Yamaha S90 and I think the S90s 3 Layer is becoming my favorite. I was just looking for a new controller with a close to piano-like action (I'm a guitar player, but I've been messing with piano my whole life and my mom's a concert pianist - grew up with Grand's in the living room). I also kinda wanted something with sounds in it, so I could just walk up and play it when I had a minute or 2, but could still use as a controller. I wanted the M-Audio ProKey's to work because I liked the price... but I compared it to a Yamaha P90 and that was it - the P90 blows it away in both feel and sound (thought about the S90 ES - too much $ for the moment). The 3 layer grand I believe is the same one in the S90 - and it does sound very good. But the big thing for me is the action feels just like a grand (heavy like one too - oh my aching hands!!). Open-box pricing from Guitar Center and it's been home for a week. Still play it every day and I still love the piano sounds - all of them. (hooked it up to a pretty small but accurate 3 piece speaker set up and you can *feel* the bass on the piano) The 3 layer grand is great for piano alone - the other (bright) grand piano sounds like it'll be great in a mix, the DX7 sounds pretty right there, NICE usable Roades sound, Wurly sound is also good (used to own one and never really cared for the sound, but it does sound like it). Organ sounds are pretty good too - although it feels completely wrong to have organ sounds coming out of something with a piano action. I'm very happy with it, and it's got the best piano action of any keyboard I've played.
Oh - and I guess the point of all of that previous post was... For the price of a good controller alone, you get great piano sounds too. Combine a so-so controller and a great software piano, and it's about the same or more money. I already had a Roland A-37 controller, and it wasn't cutting it for me for playing piano. I liked the P90 action the best, and I got a great piano too. Now I'm going to stack 'em and use my remote recording laptop for P5 and software plugs for the A-37! Might have a helluva keyboard rig for a guitar player <g>
Dylan wrote: > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? Ted will swear by the Alesis NanoPiano, IIRC. Which is the same as what's in the QS6/7/8. It sits will in a mix. Not software, but inexpensive. For a freebie, try mda piano (http://www.mda-vst.com/) -- Gary R. Hook ________________________________________________________________________ Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit
Steve Karl wrote: > Who made the sampled Yamaha? > That's the one that got my attention. > > S > I think it was PMI. I've got that one.
"Vinny" <> wrote in message news:6Cgvf.44784$... > Steve Karl wrote: >> Yep. >> The Yamaha C7 Ivory. >> I've got Giga Piano and a Yamaha S90 and I think the S90s 3 Layer is becoming my favorite. > > I was just looking for a new controller with a close to piano-like action (I'm a guitar player, but I've been messing with piano > my whole life and my mom's a concert pianist - grew up with Grand's in the living room). I also kinda wanted something with > sounds in it, so I could just walk up and play it when I had a minute or 2, but could still use as a controller. I wanted the > M-Audio ProKey's to work because I liked the price... but I compared it to a Yamaha P90 and that was it - the P90 blows it away in > both feel and sound (thought about the S90 ES - too much $ for the moment). The 3 layer grand I believe is the same one in the > S90 - and it does sound very good. But the big thing for me is the action feels just like a grand (heavy like one too - oh my > aching hands!!). > > Open-box pricing from Guitar Center and it's been home for a week. Still play it every day and I still love the piano sounds - all > of them. (hooked it up to a pretty small but accurate 3 piece speaker set up and you can *feel* the bass on the piano) The 3 layer > grand is great for piano alone - the other (bright) grand piano sounds like it'll be great in a mix, the DX7 sounds pretty right > there, NICE usable Roades sound, Wurly sound is also good (used to own one and never really cared for the sound, but it does sound > like it). Organ sounds are pretty good too - although it feels completely wrong to have organ sounds coming out of something with > a piano action. > > I'm very happy with it, and it's got the best piano action of any keyboard I've played. Yep. I love the Yamaha Grand Hammer action. I tried out many before I got the s90 and none compared. Steve
In news:43bd1871$0$2702$ the killer robot "Dylan" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > by the way > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? More often than not, I use a soundfont called "Roland Nice Piano", which sits in the mix better than any of the huge sampled pianos I have. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ ____ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
In news:0zivf.41423$ the killer robot "Gary R. Hook" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > Ted will swear by the Alesis NanoPiano, IIRC. Which is the same > as what's in the QS6/7/8. It sits will in a mix. Not software, > but inexpensive. > > For a freebie, try mda piano (http://www.mda-vst.com/) MDA sits in a mix very well. I primarily use a little 9,35 MB soundfont called Rolan Nice Piano, but have also used MDA too. Both play nice with other instruments. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ ____ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
"Vinny" <> wrote in message news:m5hvf.44802$... > Oh - and I guess the point of all of that previous post was... > > For the price of a good controller alone, you get great piano sounds too. Combine a so-so controller and a great software piano, > and it's about the same or more money. I already had a Roland A-37 controller, and it wasn't cutting it for me for playing piano. > I liked the P90 action the best, and I got a great piano too. Now I'm going to stack 'em and use my remote recording laptop for > P5 and software plugs for the A-37! Might have a helluva keyboard rig for a guitar player <g> Yea. That's a nice idea. I still use my Ensoniq SD-32 sometimes also and I'm really a guitar player, but it so easy to use a keyboard to get so many different sounds I rarely record guitar anymore, even though I still play every day. Steve
Hiya Glennbo I use Roland nice piano as well, but my client is a purist! If it doesn't sound 100% real he's not going to be happy and as I'm going to charge him for the piano I buy, I might as well buy the best! hehe If he's happy with the piano sound the sessions will run so more smoothly, if I hear "this just doesn't sound right" one more time.... grrrr Dylan "Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9742D59D9D740BrownShoesDontMakeIt@70.169.32.36... > In news:43bd1871$0$2702$ the killer > robot "Dylan" <> grabbed the controls of the > spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > > by the way > > What's everyone's favourite software piano > > > > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? > > More often than not, I use a soundfont called "Roland Nice Piano", which > sits in the mix better than any of the huge sampled pianos I have. > > -- > Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email > ________ ____ > / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ > / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ > / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / > \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo > Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits > Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
In news:43be586f$0$2670$ the killer robot "Dylan" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > I use Roland nice piano as well, but my client is a purist! > > If it doesn't sound 100% real he's not going to be happy and as I'm > going to charge him for the piano I buy, I might as well buy the best! > hehe > > If he's happy with the piano sound the sessions will run so more > smoothly, if I hear "this just doesn't sound right" one more time.... > grrrr If the piano is going to be solo, Roland Nice Piano isn't the one to use. If the piano is a backing part, mixed with a bunch of other instruments, like guitars, bass, and drums, then it sits real nice in the mix. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ ____ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
I use TBO from Sampletekk in Kontakt 2 and it is amazing. Not the real thing but the real deal in sampled technology.
ya know... if your client is pulling the "purist" card on you, you could take him into a pro studio that has a real grand, let an engineer mic it, record multiple takes, take them as files & then edit at your place. If he's willing to pay fro a new soft synth, he'd be willing to spring for a few hours in another studio. Then he can't complain about the less than real piano! You make all the arrangements with the other studio, you maintain the role of producer, & save his butt by editing his best takes together. food for thought.... greg "Dylan" <> wrote in message news:43be586f$0$2670$... > Hiya Glennbo > > I use Roland nice piano as well, but my client is a purist! > > If it doesn't sound 100% real he's not going to be happy and as I'm going > to > charge him for the piano I buy, I might as well buy the best! hehe > > If he's happy with the piano sound the sessions will run so more smoothly, > if I hear "this just doesn't sound right" one more time.... grrrr > > Dylan > > "Glennbo" <> wrote in message > news:Xns9742D59D9D740BrownShoesDontMakeIt@70.169.32.36... >> In news:43bd1871$0$2702$ the killer >> robot "Dylan" <> grabbed the controls of the >> spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> >> > by the way >> > What's everyone's favourite software piano >> > >> > Ivory? the grand 1 or 2? >> >> More often than not, I use a soundfont called "Roland Nice Piano", which >> sits in the mix better than any of the huge sampled pianos I have. >> >> -- >> Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email >> ________ ____ >> / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / __ )____ >> / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ / __ \ >> / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / >> \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_____/\____/ >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo >> Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits >> Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms > >
