Playback is erratic SX3

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  1. rock Guest

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    Hi,

    I have SX3 and it has been fine up to now and maybe it is still fine.

    I recorded 24 tracks at a commercial studio and brought home the 48bit
    tracks as wav files, loaded them up fine and they are all synced etc but..

    When I go to play, they are all erratic and stop and make noises etc.
    My guess is my box is not strong enough to play them, however I have
    done this before without a problem.

    Anyway box is PC4 1GB 2GB RAM Plenty of HD space with 4 externals etc.

    Yes I know I need to upgrade but at the moment would like to see if this
    will work.

    Thanks

    rock
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  2. Phil W Guest

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    rock wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I have SX3 and it has been fine up to now and maybe it is still fine.
    >
    > I recorded 24 tracks at a commercial studio and brought home the 48bit
    > tracks as wav files, loaded them up fine and they are all synced etc
    > but..


    48 bit files? I guess, you rather mean 48 kHz sample rate, as there are no
    48 bit audio files - at least not, as far as I know. ;-)
    The files are more likely 48 kHz sample rate / 24 bit. SX3 should be well
    capable of playing back 24 tracks in this format without any problems.
    Could you maybe look up the specs of the files again and post them here?

    > When I go to play, they are all erratic and stop and make noises etc.
    > My guess is my box is not strong enough to play them, however I have
    > done this before without a problem.
    >
    > Anyway box is PC4 1GB 2GB RAM Plenty of HD space with 4 externals
    > etc.


    Hmm, that probably means a 1 GHz CPU and 2 GB RAM - not much, but should be
    sufficient for playback without real-time effects.
    Whatever "plenty of HD space" may mean, it could be possible, that the files
    on the HD are simply too heavily fragmented. This could lead to problems
    with playback, since the HD´s read/write "head" needs to move too much
    between different locations on the disk resulting in such problems, as you
    described above. Playback of 24 tracks at once causes a lot of "work" for
    the disk, since uncompressed audio files (.WAV format probably) are quite
    big.
    Defrag your HD (the one, that has the OS and programs on it AND the one
    containing the audio files) and try again after that. Defragging the HD may
    not be the cure for your problems, but it might help. It won´t be bad in any
    way...

    > Yes I know I need to upgrade but at the moment would like to see if
    > this will work.


    If you´re going to do work with so many tracks at once, a hardware upgrade
    will be a good idea. The cheapest route will probably be to find out, which
    kind and speed of CPU your current mainboard can run, then look for a cheap
    used CPU of the fastest possible. Old CPUs of this kind can be found on ebay
    or so quite cheaply - for about 10-20$ and if you can step up to 1,6 or 1,8
    GHz, that will be a noticable improvement over the 1 GHz CPU your computer
    currently uses.
    2 GB of RAM is okay, although more would of course be better. ;-)

    Anyway, it would be good, if you could provide some more information on your
    computer´s hardware.
    Important are:
    - CPU
    - mainboard model and revision/version
    - sound card / audio interface

    An easy way to find out about these facts is to use a small freeware program
    like "S.I.W.":
    http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html

    download the "Stand-alone" version and run it - doesn´t require
    installation!

    Go to the "Hardware" section, there you can find "System summary",
    "Motherboard", "CPU info" and so on. Look up the information and post it
    here.

    Besides that, do you have the latest driver versions installed for
    everything (mainboard chipset, audio card/interface)? As well as the latest
    SX3 patches available from Steinberg?


    Phil
  3. Ethan Greenberg Guest

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    Vintage Cubase quest

    Dear members,

    Does anyone know where I might find a workable copy of Cubase Audio XT
    3.0.4 for classic Mac?


    On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:16:19 +0200, rock <> wrote:

    > Hi,
    >
    > I have SX3 and it has been fine up to now and maybe it is still fine.
    >
    > I recorded 24 tracks at a commercial studio and brought home the 48bit
    > tracks as wav files, loaded them up fine and they are all synced etc
    > but..
    >
    > When I go to play, they are all erratic and stop and make noises etc. My
    > guess is my box is not strong enough to play them, however I have done
    > this before without a problem.
    >
    > Anyway box is PC4 1GB 2GB RAM Plenty of HD space with 4 externals etc.
    >
    > Yes I know I need to upgrade but at the moment would like to see if this
    > will work.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > rock




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  4. rock Guest

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    Phil W wrote:
    > rock wrote:
    >
    >> Hi,
    >>
    >> I have SX3 and it has been fine up to now and maybe it is still fine.
    >>
    >> I recorded 24 tracks at a commercial studio and brought home the 48bit
    >> tracks as wav files, loaded them up fine and they are all synced etc
    >> but..

    >
    > 48 bit files? I guess, you rather mean 48 kHz sample rate, as there are no
    > 48 bit audio files - at least not, as far as I know. ;-)
    > The files are more likely 48 kHz sample rate / 24 bit. SX3 should be well
    > capable of playing back 24 tracks in this format without any problems.
    > Could you maybe look up the specs of the files again and post them here?
    >
    >> When I go to play, they are all erratic and stop and make noises etc.
    >> My guess is my box is not strong enough to play them, however I have
    >> done this before without a problem.
    >>
    >> Anyway box is PC4 1GB 2GB RAM Plenty of HD space with 4 externals
    >> etc.

    >
    > Hmm, that probably means a 1 GHz CPU and 2 GB RAM - not much, but should be
    > sufficient for playback without real-time effects.
    > Whatever "plenty of HD space" may mean, it could be possible, that the files
    > on the HD are simply too heavily fragmented. This could lead to problems
    > with playback, since the HD´s read/write "head" needs to move too much
    > between different locations on the disk resulting in such problems, as you
    > described above. Playback of 24 tracks at once causes a lot of "work" for
    > the disk, since uncompressed audio files (.WAV format probably) are quite
    > big.
    > Defrag your HD (the one, that has the OS and programs on it AND the one
    > containing the audio files) and try again after that. Defragging the HD may
    > not be the cure for your problems, but it might help. It won´t be bad in any
    > way...
    >
    >> Yes I know I need to upgrade but at the moment would like to see if
    >> this will work.

    >
    > If you´re going to do work with so many tracks at once, a hardware upgrade
    > will be a good idea. The cheapest route will probably be to find out, which
    > kind and speed of CPU your current mainboard can run, then look for a cheap
    > used CPU of the fastest possible. Old CPUs of this kind can be found on ebay
    > or so quite cheaply - for about 10-20$ and if you can step up to 1,6 or 1,8
    > GHz, that will be a noticable improvement over the 1 GHz CPU your computer
    > currently uses.
    > 2 GB of RAM is okay, although more would of course be better. ;-)
    >
    > Anyway, it would be good, if you could provide some more information on your
    > computer´s hardware.
    > Important are:
    > - CPU
    > - mainboard model and revision/version
    > - sound card / audio interface
    >
    > An easy way to find out about these facts is to use a small freeware program
    > like "S.I.W.":
    > http://www.gtopala.com/siw-download.html
    >
    > download the "Stand-alone" version and run it - doesn´t require
    > installation!
    >
    > Go to the "Hardware" section, there you can find "System summary",
    > "Motherboard", "CPU info" and so on. Look up the information and post it
    > here.
    >
    > Besides that, do you have the latest driver versions installed for
    > everything (mainboard chipset, audio card/interface)? As well as the latest
    > SX3 patches available from Steinberg?
    >
    >
    > Phil
    >
    >

    I've been away thus the delay to answer.

    Really appreciate the answer and your time Phil.

    Yes I am looking at an upgrade altho' I think I do really need to get
    newer gear so have started to look around at some deals.

    I found the main cause of my 'stuttering' playback and I feel a fool
    having to say this, however it was I loaded the files from a dvd and of
    course it could not keep up.

    Once I got them onto the HD then it was much better until I started to
    use some fx so it is when I try to add fx etc, that my set up is weak.

    Anyway. thank again I will return when I have a new box and hopefully
    get some help setting it up.

    best..

    rock
  5. Phil W Guest

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    rock wrote:

    > I've been away thus the delay to answer.
    >
    > Really appreciate the answer and your time Phil.


    You´re welcome! ;-)

    > Yes I am looking at an upgrade altho' I think I do really need to get
    > newer gear so have started to look around at some deals.


    Well, as I said, in the meantime, you could look for a CPU-only upgrade for
    10-20$ and get a noticable performance boost. It won´t be like a new machine
    with modern components, but 1,8 GHz is noticably more "power" than 1 GHz.

    > I found the main cause of my 'stuttering' playback and I feel a fool
    > having to say this, however it was I loaded the files from a dvd and
    > of course it could not keep up.


    hehe ;-) ALWAYS copy your projects to a local HD, before opening it. I just
    assumed, you had already done that, cause it´s the only realistic way.

    > Once I got them onto the HD then it was much better until I started to
    > use some fx so it is when I try to add fx etc, that my set up is weak.


    The number of fx would be greater, if you put a "bigger" CPU in your
    existing machine. It also depends on which plug-ins you use, some are more
    CPU-hungry than others.

    > Anyway. thank again I will return when I have a new box and hopefully
    > get some help setting it up.


    better ask here or somewhere else for advice, what to buy, BEFORE just
    running to a shop and getting something "that looks like a good deal". Of
    course, it´s up to you, but I can only encourage you to do so, if you want
    to spend your money for good stuff, rather than something "suboptimal" ;-)


    Phil
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