Ram query

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  1. hproductions Guest

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    Hi guys. I'm running cubase five on xp 32bit. I've added
    a couple of sample based vats recently and have
    had issues loading them due to the 4gb of ram ihave
    and the memory limitations of xp. I was just wondering
    what anyone out there does to get round ram issues.
    It doesn't take much to max out my ram with 'ivory' piano
    and superior drummer. Is it just a case of upgrade to an o/s
    that will see more ram I install or are there any other suggestions??

    Thanks in advance.

    H
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  2. NickM Guest

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    "hproductions" <> wrote in message
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    > Hi guys. I'm running cubase five on xp 32bit. I've added
    > a couple of sample based vats recently and have
    > had issues loading them due to the 4gb of ram ihave
    > and the memory limitations of xp. I was just wondering
    > what anyone out there does to get round ram issues.
    > It doesn't take much to max out my ram with 'ivory' piano
    > and superior drummer. Is it just a case of upgrade to an o/s
    > that will see more ram I install or are there any other suggestions??
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    > H


    If your 32 bit system contains 4GB RAM it is unlikely it will see all of it.
    The 32 bit OS 4GB limit is a total limit of all system RAM including the RAM
    in your graphics card, which itself is likely to poach some system RAM too.
    I'd guess your system sees about 3.25GB max of the 4GB you have installed.

    In terms of what you can do, your only real option long term is to upgrade
    to a 64bit OS like Windows Vista 64 or preferably Windows 7 64 bit. Your
    software might allow you to set RAM usage conservatively and to stream more
    audio samples directly from a hard disk, so you may need to play with some
    options there if you can. I would recommend using a dedicated drive for
    your samples. You should also apply all the commonly recognised, well
    documented and valid tweaks to Windows XP to ensure that the system is as
    optimised as possible. You may have already done this.

    You could use Cubase's freeze functionality with your drum and piano tracks
    which is something a lot of people do when their system becmes overloaded.
  3. hproductions Guest

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    On Jul 20, 7:54 am, "NickM" <> wrote:
    > "hproductions" <> wrote in message
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    > news:...
    >
    > > Hi guys. I'm running cubase five on xp 32bit. I've added
    > > a couple of sample based vats recently and have
    > > had issues loading them due to the 4gb of ram ihave
    > > and the memory limitations of xp. I was just wondering
    > > what anyone out there does to get round ram issues.
    > > It doesn't take much to max out my ram with 'ivory' piano
    > > and superior drummer. Is it just a case of upgrade to an o/s
    > > that will see more ram I install or are there any other suggestions??

    >
    > > Thanks in advance.

    >
    > > H

    >
    > If your 32 bit system contains 4GB RAM it is unlikely it will see all of it.
    > The 32 bit OS 4GB limit is a total limit of all system RAM including the RAM
    > in your graphics card, which itself is likely to poach some system RAM too.
    > I'd guess your system sees about 3.25GB max of the 4GB you have installed..
    >
    > In terms of what you can do, your only real option long term is to upgrade
    > to a 64bit OS like Windows Vista 64 or preferably Windows 7 64 bit.  Your
    > software might allow you to set RAM usage conservatively and to stream more
    > audio samples directly from a hard disk, so you may need to play with some
    > options there if you can.  I would recommend using a dedicated drive for
    > your samples.  You should also apply all the commonly recognised, well
    > documented and valid tweaks to Windows XP to ensure that the system is as
    > optimised as possible.  You may have already done this.
    >
    > You could use Cubase's freeze functionality with your drum and piano tracks
    > which is something a lot of people do when their system becmes overloaded..


    That's great - I have done most of the above so that leads me to the
    windows's 7 64 bit route!

    And another post...

    Many thanks.
  4. Jos Geluk Guest

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    NickM schreef:
    > "hproductions" <> wrote in message
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    >> Hi guys. I'm running cubase five on xp 32bit. I've added
    >> a couple of sample based vats recently and have
    >> had issues loading them due to the 4gb of ram ihave
    >> and the memory limitations of xp. I was just wondering
    >> what anyone out there does to get round ram issues.
    >> It doesn't take much to max out my ram with 'ivory' piano
    >> and superior drummer. Is it just a case of upgrade to an o/s
    >> that will see more ram I install or are there any other suggestions??
    >>
    >> Thanks in advance.
    >>
    >> H

    >
    > If your 32 bit system contains 4GB RAM it is unlikely it will see all of it.
    > The 32 bit OS 4GB limit is a total limit of all system RAM including the RAM
    > in your graphics card, which itself is likely to poach some system RAM too.
    > I'd guess your system sees about 3.25GB max of the 4GB you have installed.
    >
    > In terms of what you can do, your only real option long term is to upgrade
    > to a 64bit OS like Windows Vista 64 or preferably Windows 7 64 bit. Your
    > software might allow you to set RAM usage conservatively and to stream more
    > audio samples directly from a hard disk, so you may need to play with some
    > options there if you can. I would recommend using a dedicated drive for
    > your samples. You should also apply all the commonly recognised, well
    > documented and valid tweaks to Windows XP to ensure that the system is as
    > optimised as possible. You may have already done this.
    >
    > You could use Cubase's freeze functionality with your drum and piano tracks
    > which is something a lot of people do when their system becmes overloaded.


    Three more thoughts:

    If your sample player software lets you adjust disk streaming settings
    (like e.g. DFD in Kontakt), that may also help.

    I'm thinking of a second computer to use as a sample player.

    I sometimes have to resort to using two separate projects, with the same
    tempo track but with different subsets of the instruments, and going
    back and forth between them until the mix sounds right. But mostly I can
    get around that by freezing, or by bouncing to audio and removing the
    instrument.

    Jos.
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  5. hproductions Guest

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    On Jul 20, 12:49 pm, Jos Geluk <> wrote:
    > NickM schreef:
    >
    >
    >
    > > "hproductions" <> wrote in message
    > >news:....
    > >> Hi guys. I'm running cubase five on xp 32bit. I've added
    > >> a couple of sample based vats recently and have
    > >> had issues loading them due to the 4gb of ram ihave
    > >> and the memory limitations of xp. I was just wondering
    > >> what anyone out there does to get round ram issues.
    > >> It doesn't take much to max out my ram with 'ivory' piano
    > >> and superior drummer. Is it just a case of upgrade to an o/s
    > >> that will see more ram I install or are there any other suggestions??

    >
    > >> Thanks in advance.

    >
    > >> H

    >
    > > If your 32 bit system contains 4GB RAM it is unlikely it will see all of it.
    > > The 32 bit OS 4GB limit is a total limit of all system RAM including the RAM
    > > in your graphics card, which itself is likely to poach some system RAM too.
    > > I'd guess your system sees about 3.25GB max of the 4GB you have installed.

    >
    > > In terms of what you can do, your only real option long term is to upgrade
    > > to a 64bit OS like Windows Vista 64 or preferably Windows 7 64 bit.  Your
    > > software might allow you to set RAM usage conservatively and to stream more
    > > audio samples directly from a hard disk, so you may need to play with some
    > > options there if you can.  I would recommend using a dedicated drive for
    > > your samples.  You should also apply all the commonly recognised, well
    > > documented and valid tweaks to Windows XP to ensure that the system is as
    > > optimised as possible.  You may have already done this.

    >
    > > You could use Cubase's freeze functionality with your drum and piano tracks
    > > which is something a lot of people do when their system becmes overloaded.

    >
    > Three more thoughts:
    >
    > If your sample player software lets you adjust disk streaming settings
    > (like e.g. DFD in Kontakt), that may also help.
    >
    > I'm thinking of a second computer to use as a sample player.
    >
    > I sometimes have to resort to using two separate projects, with the same
    > tempo track but with different subsets of the instruments, and going
    > back and forth between them until the mix sounds right. But mostly I can
    > get around that by freezing, or by bouncing to audio and removing the
    > instrument.
    >
    > Jos.


    Yes I can see teh need for that under a 32bit system - the disk
    streaming is useful for another vsti i use (scarbee bass) that
    utilises Kontakt
    but superior drummer and ivory don't seem to allow for this - only a
    reduction in teh quality of the instrument which isn't really useful.

    Thanks fo the input.

    On the up side windows 7 64bit looks promising for a cubase 5 user as
    long as the drivers are compatible. It allows up to 16gb RAM.
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    > On the up side windows 7 64bit looks promising for a cubase 5 user as
    > long as the drivers are compatible. It allows up to 16gb RAM.


    128GB with Ultimate as per Vista - although I don't know of any 32GB memory
    modules..... yet. What was it Bill Gates is supposed to have said?
    Something like 'users will never need more than 640KB RAM' - although I
    think he denies ever saying that LOL
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    "nickm" <> wrote in message
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    >> On the up side windows 7 64bit looks promising for a cubase 5 user as
    >> long as the drivers are compatible. It allows up to 16gb RAM.

    >
    > 128GB with Ultimate as per Vista - although I don't know of any 32GB
    > memory modules..... yet. What was it Bill Gates is supposed to have said?
    > Something like 'users will never need more than 640KB RAM' - although I
    > think he denies ever saying that LOL
    >
    >


    I'll correct myself - having dug a bit deeper, apparently the max in Vista
    Ultimate, Enterprise and Professional is 192GB
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