Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to see it all in one view. OR Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are not my problem. Visibility is. Thanks JHL
"JHL" <> wrote in message news:... > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in the > Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels running > and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to see it all > in one view. > OR > Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run > them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are > not my problem. > Visibility is. Sounds like you need a second monitor and dedicate it to the console view. Provided your computer has the ability to do so. I'm sure the resident puter gurus will chime in! Poly
The killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and >> run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio >> displays are not my problem. >> Visibility is. > > Sounds like you need a second monitor and dedicate it to the console > view. Provided your computer has the ability to do so. > I'm sure the resident puter gurus will chime in! Or a bigger single monitor! I'd never trade my 32" monitor for a pair of smaller monitors. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Thank you all for your comments. The question was meant to be "can Sonar display 40 or 50 channels on ONE screen?" These channels would probably have to be stacked in two rows or displayed in an "X view" type of window. Having a larger monitor will not change Sonar's display settings. I am currently using a 42 inch LCD. Large displays have a "native" resolution that cannot be exceeded. Is it resonable to assume you need to double my current viewing area with another monitor when it could be done in programming. Years ago, there were programing techniques such as using "x" windows that would allow sizing and expansion of any and all Windows programs. Surely, this approach would be more resonable and take up less real estate. JHL "JHL" <> wrote in message news:... > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in > the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels > running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to > see it all in one view. > OR > Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run > them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are > not my problem. > Visibility is. > > Thanks > JHL >
In news: the killer robot "JHL" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > The question was meant to be "can Sonar display 40 or 50 channels on ONE > screen?" These channels would probably have to be stacked in two rows or > displayed in an "X view" type of window. I don't really use Sonar any longer, but surely it can do what I just did in Reaper for a test, which was to undock the mixer and put three rows of twenty five tracks each up for a 75 track plus master strip view. http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Ahhhh, 'X', the Good Ole Days! I loved OLIT and Motif ... What you're asking for (I think) is for total free-form resizing of window contents. Not gonna' happen! It didn't happen with 'X' either. Everything is bitmap'd these days and the OS doesn't resize the bitmaps on the fly when resizing windows. It may seem like a reasonable idea, but the CPU/GPU requirements would be HUGE! Your only real option is to have more pixels x and y in your display. Or use multiple displays ... or logically group tracks and scroll ... Think about it. If Sonar were networked with another computer, the end result would be multiple displays! On 7/27/2010 7:32 PM, JHL wrote: > Thank you all for your comments. > > The question was meant to be "can Sonar display 40 or 50 channels on ONE > screen?" These channels would probably have to be stacked in two rows or > displayed in an "X view" type of window. Having a larger monitor will not > change Sonar's display settings. I am currently using a 42 inch LCD. Large > displays have a "native" resolution that cannot be exceeded. Is it resonable > to assume you need to double my current viewing area with another monitor > when it could be done in programming. Years ago, there were programing > techniques such as using "x" > windows that would allow sizing and expansion of any and all Windows > programs. Surely, this approach would be more resonable and take up less > real estate. > JHL > "JHL"<> wrote in message > news:... >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in >> the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels >> running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to >> see it all in one view. >> OR >> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run >> them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are >> not my problem. >> Visibility is. >> >> Thanks >> JHL >> > > -- Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work Thomas Edison
Thanks, Bob Really enjoyed your comments. I think I agree with you. You are quite correct in what I am getting at. Still, while I am faced with reality, I will persue this idea. Needless to say, if I ever come up with anything I will post my findings to the group. Oh, yeh...I posed this question to Cakewalk tech. Twice. OK ! Never do that again ! JHL "JHL" <> wrote in message news:... > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in > the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels > running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to > see it all in one view. > OR > Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run > them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are > not my problem. > Visibility is. > > Thanks > JHL >
Please do post back if/when you find a nifty solution. I'm sure a lot of us would like to see an elegant solution to this. Good Luck! On 7/28/2010 4:32 PM, JHL wrote: > Thanks, Bob > > Really enjoyed your comments. I think I agree with you. > You are quite correct in what I am getting at. Still, while I am faced with > reality, I will persue this idea. Needless to say, if I ever come up with > anything I will post my findings to the group. > Oh, yeh...I posed this question to Cakewalk tech. Twice. > OK ! Never do that again ! > JHL > > "JHL"<> wrote in message > news:... >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in >> the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels >> running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to >> see it all in one view. >> OR >> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run >> them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are >> not my problem. >> Visibility is. >> >> Thanks >> JHL >> > >
"JHL" <> wrote in news:: > Thanks, Bob > > Really enjoyed your comments. I think I agree with you. > You are quite correct in what I am getting at. Still, while I am faced > with reality, I will persue this idea. Needless to say, if I ever come > up with anything I will post my findings to the group. > Oh, yeh...I posed this question to Cakewalk tech. Twice. > OK ! Never do that again ! > JHL > > "JHL" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels >> in the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi >> channels running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to >> be no way to see it all in one view. >> OR >> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and >> run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio >> displays are not my problem. >> Visibility is. >> >> Thanks >> JHL >> > > Get a wide-screen monitor that you can rotate 90 degrees to vertical orientation? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
Bruce <> wrote in news:Xns9DC46CEAD68BBxxxyyyzzz@202.177.16.121: > "JHL" <> wrote in > news:: > >> Thanks, Bob >> >> Really enjoyed your comments. I think I agree with you. >> You are quite correct in what I am getting at. Still, while I am faced >> with reality, I will persue this idea. Needless to say, if I ever come >> up with anything I will post my findings to the group. >> Oh, yeh...I posed this question to Cakewalk tech. Twice. >> OK ! Never do that again ! >> JHL >> >> "JHL" <> wrote in message >> news:... >>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels >>> in the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi >>> channels running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to >>> be no way to see it all in one view. >>> OR >>> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and >>> run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio >>> displays are not my problem. >>> Visibility is. >>> >>> Thanks >>> JHL >>> >> >> > > Get a wide-screen monitor that you can rotate 90 degrees to vertical > orientation? > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- > Ah crap, missed it was console view....phooey. nevermind. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
Bruce <> wrote in news:Xns9DC46CEAD68BBxxxyyyzzz@202.177.16.121: > "JHL" <> wrote in > news:: > >> Thanks, Bob >> >> Really enjoyed your comments. I think I agree with you. >> You are quite correct in what I am getting at. Still, while I am faced >> with reality, I will persue this idea. Needless to say, if I ever come >> up with anything I will post my findings to the group. >> Oh, yeh...I posed this question to Cakewalk tech. Twice. >> OK ! Never do that again ! >> JHL >> >> "JHL" <> wrote in message >> news:... >>> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels >>> in the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi >>> channels running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to >>> be no way to see it all in one view. >>> OR >>> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and >>> run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio >>> displays are not my problem. >>> Visibility is. >>> >>> Thanks >>> JHL >>> >> >> > > Get a wide-screen monitor that you can rotate 90 degrees to vertical > orientation? > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- > Ah crap, missed it was console view....phooey. nevermind. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with the 29th scrolled off. It's not double, but I guess a 56% improvement. Of course, depending on what you want to do, it may also be harder to use as it can make things like FX plug-in names a lot harder to read. It's easy enough to toggle back and forth, though, that you can use narrow most of the time and only toggle to wide when you need to more easily see more detail. The other thing I might add is that you can hide strips you don't need in the Console view. For example, I rarely need MIDI strips in console view, especially if they are associated with a softsynth, so I hide them and just keep the audio track visible. Also, if I have some tracks submixed to a bus, once I've got the relative balances set between those tracks, I probably don't need them visible anymore, just the bus they are going to. And there are other tracks I only need in some phases of a project -- e.g. a click track -- that can be hidden once I've gotten to the mix stage. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "JHL" <> wrote in message news:... > Can anyone tell me if there is a way to expand the number of channels in > the Console view ? With several synths open and several midi channels > running and 10 or so audio channels active, there seems to be no way to > see it all in one view. > OR > Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and run > them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio displays are > not my problem. > Visibility is. > > Thanks > JHL >
The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow > strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, > with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right > side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains > strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips > showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. > If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with > the 29th scrolled off. Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like this? http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It seemed rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was that with the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console resized with it, exactly like I would expect something like that to work. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
"Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9DC55923E3D96BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62... > The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the > controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > > One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow > > strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, > > with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right > > side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains > > strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips > > showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. > > If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with > > the 29th scrolled off. > > Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like this? > > http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg > > I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It seemed > rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully > integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was that with > the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console resized > with it, exactly like I would expect something like that to work. hehe..sounds like a program made for musicians! Poly
The killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> > One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow >> > strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, >> > with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right >> > side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains >> > strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips >> > showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. >> > If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with >> > the 29th scrolled off. >> >> Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like this? >> >> http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg >> >> I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It seemed >> rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully >> integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was that with >> the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console resized >> with it, exactly like I would expect something like that to work. > > hehe..sounds like a program made for musicians! You can see what I'm talking about with the "resizing" of the mixer when it's docked. As I size the whole app smaller, you can see the FX bins and sends first collapse, then the channel strips themselves shrink to fit as it goes even smaller. All the left behind crap on screen is a result of me running this screen capture program. It doesn't leave that junk behind when I'm not running the screen capture app. http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/Resize.wmv -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
"Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9DC572B32588DBrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62... > The killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of > the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > > >> > One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow > >> > strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, > >> > with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right > >> > side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains > >> > strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips > >> > showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. > >> > If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with > >> > the 29th scrolled off. > >> > >> Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like this? > >> > >> http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg > >> > >> I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It seemed > >> rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully > >> integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was that with > >> the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console resized > >> with it, exactly like I would expect something like that to work. > > > > hehe..sounds like a program made for musicians! > > You can see what I'm talking about with the "resizing" of the mixer when > it's docked. As I size the whole app smaller, you can see the FX bins and > sends first collapse, then the channel strips themselves shrink to fit as > it goes even smaller. All the left behind crap on screen is a result of me > running this screen capture program. It doesn't leave that junk behind > when I'm not running the screen capture app. > > http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/Resize.wmv Yup. Same thing happens with the main toolbar to the left above the tracks. It automatically resizes itself. That's plain freakin cool! Poly
The killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> >> > One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the >> >> > narrow strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" >> >> > widescreen, with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar >> >> > docked on the right side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one >> >> > of the hardware mains strips showing and one bus showing in wide >> >> > view, I get 17 audio > strips >> >> > showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the >> >> > screen. If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the >> >> > screen, with the 29th scrolled off. >> >> >> >> Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like >> >> this? >> >> >> >> http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg >> >> >> >> I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It > seemed >> >> rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully >> >> integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was >> >> that > with >> >> the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console >> >> resized with it, exactly like I would expect something like that >> >> to work. >> > >> > hehe..sounds like a program made for musicians! >> >> You can see what I'm talking about with the "resizing" of the mixer >> when it's docked. As I size the whole app smaller, you can see the >> FX bins and sends first collapse, then the channel strips themselves >> shrink to fit as it goes even smaller. All the left behind crap on >> screen is a result of > me >> running this screen capture program. It doesn't leave that junk >> behind when I'm not running the screen capture app. >> >> http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/Resize.wmv > > Yup. Same thing happens with the main toolbar to the left above the > tracks. It automatically resizes itself. That's plain freakin cool! That's actually a pretty easy thing to accomplish programming wise. With visual programming languages, you simply identify either a corner or center of an object to be the "anchor", and then specify whether the behavior is to squeeze and stretch horizontally, vertically, both or other variations. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
On 7/30/2010 8:29 AM, polymod wrote: > "Glennbo"<> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC55923E3D96BrownShoesDontMakeIt@81.169.183.62... >> The killer robot "Rick Paul"<> grabbed the >> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> >>> One thing you can do here that helps a fair amount is use the narrow >>> strips instead of the default width strips. On my 22" widescreen, >>> with 1680x1050 resolution and the Views toolbar docked on the right >>> side of my SONAR screen, if I have just one of the hardware mains >>> strips showing and one bus showing in wide view, I get 17 audio strips >>> showing in the Console View, with the 18th scrolled off the screen. >>> If I switch to narrow strips, I can get 28 strips on the screen, with >>> the 29th scrolled off. >> >> Are you saying that Sonar at v8.5 *still* can't do something like this? >> >> http://members.cox.net/glennbopix/LottaTracks.jpg >> >> I stopped at Sonar 5 and the console view always bothered me. It seemed >> rigid and inflexible like a third party add on that wasn't fully >> integrated. The first thing I noticed when I tried Reaper was that with >> the mixer docked, I could resize the whole app, and the console resized >> with it, exactly like I would expect something like that to work. > > hehe..sounds like a program made for musicians! > > > Poly > > Looks like a feeble attempt to resemble Propellerhead's Record console.
Glennbo <> écrivait news:Xns9DC258EC02B48BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.230: > The killer robot "polymod" <> grabbed the controls > of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > >>> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version and >>> run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. Vidio >>> displays are not my problem. >>> Visibility is. >> >> Sounds like you need a second monitor and dedicate it to the console >> view. Provided your computer has the ability to do so. >> I'm sure the resident puter gurus will chime in! > > Or a bigger single monitor! I'd never trade my 32" monitor for a pair of > smaller monitors. > What is the brand and resolution of your monitor? TY
The killer robot Dominique <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>>> Can Sonar be linked to another computer running the same version >>>> and run them together ? Compensating for the timing of course. >>>> Vidio displays are not my problem. >>>> Visibility is. >>> >>> Sounds like you need a second monitor and dedicate it to the console >>> view. Provided your computer has the ability to do so. >>> I'm sure the resident puter gurus will chime in! >> >> Or a bigger single monitor! I'd never trade my 32" monitor for a >> pair of smaller monitors. >> > > What is the brand and resolution of your monitor? It's a cheep Insignia from Best Buy running 1920x1080. I put an Asus nVidia based video card in my machine and have it hooked up with HDMI. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
