Is there a limit to how many *GPO* instruments I can have on separate tracks and channels in *SONAR 7 Studio*? I have a lot of trouble with GPO - or any VST or DXi plug-ins . . . running multiple instances . . . ESPECIALLY with the Arturia Moog Modular V2. If anybody knows about *GPO* and *Overture* *3* I'm very interested. I haven't managed more than 8 at the same time. -- Cheers, Ben
You don't mention many details, such as what kind of troubles you're running into, which version of GPO, etc. The only thing I can things I can think of offhand are: With some versions of the KONTAKT Player I do recall running into troubles with multiple instances. It's been awhile now, so my memory on that is pretty vague, but I think it was with KONTAKT Player V2, and I believe it could be any of the Garritan or Sample Modeling instruments, though I wouldn't swear to it. If I remember correctly, my workaround was generally to freeze whichever one I wasn't actively using. However, I also think that newer versions of KONTAKT and/or the KONTAKT Player made the issues go away. I currently have KONTAKT V3 and KONTAKT Player V4, so those are the most likely versions I'd be using on anything current. I also have had some stability issues with Arturia V Collection instruments, where SONAR might crash or hang on certain plug-in operations, such as inserting it or bringing it back after freezing. Again, this is a pretty vague memory, and I don't recall having any issues more recently, but I also don't use the Arturia plug-ins super regularly as much of the music I make doesn't call for synth sounds at all. I don't recall if I've had any troubles with these since updating to the V2 versions (I just noticed the Jupiter 8V2 is out now, too -- not sure if I missed it earlier or it hasn't yet gotten a public announcement, but your message reminded me to check if it was there since I'd just noticed in the last few days that it was the only one that I didn't have a V2 version of -- the version info on their download page doesn't even say what is new in V2). Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message news:i4fmhp$gkg$-september.org... > Is there a limit to how many *GPO* instruments I can have on separate > tracks and channels in *SONAR 7 Studio*? > > I have a lot of trouble with GPO - or any VST or DXi plug-ins . . . > running multiple instances . . . ESPECIALLY with the Arturia Moog > Modular V2. > > If anybody knows about *GPO* and *Overture* *3* I'm very interested. I > haven't managed more than 8 at the same time. > > -- > Cheers, > Ben
Rick Paul wrote: > You don't mention many details, such as what kind of troubles you're > running into, which version of GPO, etc. > > The only thing I can things I can think of offhand are: > > With some versions of the KONTAKT Player I do recall running into > troubles with multiple instances. It's been awhile now, so my memory > on that is pretty vague, but I think it was with KONTAKT Player V2, > and I believe it could be any of the Garritan or Sample Modeling > instruments, though I wouldn't swear to it. If I remember correctly, > my workaround was generally to freeze whichever one I wasn't actively > using. However, I also think that newer versions of KONTAKT and/or > the KONTAKT Player made the issues go away. I currently have KONTAKT > V3 and KONTAKT Player V4, so those are the most likely versions I'd > be using on anything current. > > I also have had some stability issues with Arturia V Collection > instruments, where SONAR might crash or hang on certain plug-in > operations, such as inserting it or bringing it back after freezing. > Again, this is a pretty vague memory, and I don't recall having any > issues more recently, but I also don't use the Arturia plug-ins super > regularly as much of the music I make doesn't call for synth sounds > at all. I don't recall if I've had any troubles with these since > updating to the V2 versions (I just noticed the Jupiter 8V2 is out > now, too -- not sure if I missed it earlier or it hasn't yet gotten a > public announcement, but your message reminded me to check if it was > there since I'd just noticed in the last few days that it was the > only one that I didn't have a V2 version of -- the version info on > their download page doesn't even say what is new in V2). > > Rick Thanks Rick. Inserting and using soft synths has always been a pain in the neck for me. About all I can /easily/ do is play a softsynth from a keyboard. I may give Gary Garritan a call. As for Arturia, I by far prefer the V2 to the original Moog Modular. I've had that freeze things up. EVen the V2 has had trouble as an inserted synth. A log off and back on would free up resources and put things back to normal. I'm starting to think about using an extra computer for running the Moog as an outboard and connecting with MIDI cables. I could record it to an Audio Track. Thanks for the input, Rick. Much appreciated. -- Cheers, Ben
Just wondering here if it's possible you're running low on usable memory? That could create issues with softsynths if so. It might well be that a reason I haven't seen problems recently is because of my move to SONAR x64 and the additional amount of my 4 GB configuration it lets SONAR use (32-bit Windows only allows SONAR to use 2 GB total application space, independent of how much the rest of the system has available). Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message news:i4p6nh$o19$-september.org... > Rick Paul wrote: > >> You don't mention many details, such as what kind of troubles you're >> running into, which version of GPO, etc. >> >> The only thing I can things I can think of offhand are: >> >> With some versions of the KONTAKT Player I do recall running into >> troubles with multiple instances. It's been awhile now, so my memory >> on that is pretty vague, but I think it was with KONTAKT Player V2, >> and I believe it could be any of the Garritan or Sample Modeling >> instruments, though I wouldn't swear to it. If I remember correctly, >> my workaround was generally to freeze whichever one I wasn't actively >> using. However, I also think that newer versions of KONTAKT and/or >> the KONTAKT Player made the issues go away. I currently have KONTAKT >> V3 and KONTAKT Player V4, so those are the most likely versions I'd >> be using on anything current. >> >> I also have had some stability issues with Arturia V Collection >> instruments, where SONAR might crash or hang on certain plug-in >> operations, such as inserting it or bringing it back after freezing. >> Again, this is a pretty vague memory, and I don't recall having any >> issues more recently, but I also don't use the Arturia plug-ins super >> regularly as much of the music I make doesn't call for synth sounds >> at all. I don't recall if I've had any troubles with these since >> updating to the V2 versions (I just noticed the Jupiter 8V2 is out >> now, too -- not sure if I missed it earlier or it hasn't yet gotten a >> public announcement, but your message reminded me to check if it was >> there since I'd just noticed in the last few days that it was the >> only one that I didn't have a V2 version of -- the version info on >> their download page doesn't even say what is new in V2). >> >> Rick > > Thanks Rick. Inserting and using soft synths has always been a pain in > the neck for me. About all I can /easily/ do is play a softsynth from > a keyboard. > > I may give Gary Garritan a call. > > As for Arturia, I by far prefer the V2 to the original Moog Modular. > I've had that freeze things up. EVen the V2 has had trouble as an > inserted synth. A log off and back on would free up resources and put > things back to normal. > > I'm starting to think about using an extra computer for running the > Moog as an outboard and connecting with MIDI cables. I could record it > to an Audio Track. > > Thanks for the input, Rick. Much appreciated. > > -- > Cheers, > Ben
Rick Paul wrote: > Just wondering here if it's possible you're running low on usable > memory? That could create issues with softsynths if so. It might > well be that a reason I haven't seen problems recently is because of > my move to SONAR x64 and the additional amount of my 4 GB > configuration it lets SONAR use (32-bit Windows only allows SONAR to > use 2 GB total application space, independent of how much the rest of > the system has available). > > Rick No memory or computing power problems. It's only that I am trying to understand how to use stuff. I haven't even got around to using effects returns yet and am quite behind when it comes to doing anything else but simply recording. MIDI work and audio file processing are easy for me. I get confused about track folders and how many times a synth needs to be inserted etc. If I do one and freeze, do one and freeze, then I can deal. -- Cheers, Ben
With multitimbral instruments like GPO, you can use multiple MIDI tracks per instance and either submix them to a stereo pair or send different instruments to different outputs. The key is how you insert them in the synth rack to create the audio outputs (or if you manually create and route additional audio outputs. Of course, you could also do one instance per instrument if you like, but that probably isn't as efficient in terms of resource usage. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message news:i4qdcb$peg$-september.org... > Rick Paul wrote: > >> Just wondering here if it's possible you're running low on usable >> memory? That could create issues with softsynths if so. It might >> well be that a reason I haven't seen problems recently is because of >> my move to SONAR x64 and the additional amount of my 4 GB >> configuration it lets SONAR use (32-bit Windows only allows SONAR to >> use 2 GB total application space, independent of how much the rest of >> the system has available). >> >> Rick > > No memory or computing power problems. It's only that I am trying to > understand how to use stuff. > > I haven't even got around to using effects returns yet and am quite > behind when it comes to doing anything else but simply recording. MIDI > work and audio file processing are easy for me. > > I get confused about track folders and how many times a synth needs to > be inserted etc. If I do one and freeze, do one and freeze, then I can > deal. > > -- > Cheers, > Ben
