This is probably my most ambitious recording project since updating to 64-bit with SONAR 8.5 and, in fact, since finishing my album early last summer. It isn't a brand new recording in that most of the MIDI stuff was recorded years ago (I did add some new controller and keyswitch stuff for Chris Hein Guitars, though, and did some other general editing), but I replaced all the software instruments and recorded entirely new vocals (even changed one line in the lyrics) before remixing it. The song is called "Under the Influence", written with Anders Rasmussen and Donna Aylor. My first "final mix candidate" is at: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 Any feedback would be appreciated In case anyone might be interested, the main toys used were: EZ Drummer on drums, Trilogy (through Guitar Rig 3, I think, or maybe it was POD Farm) on bass, Garritan Steinway on piano, SFZ+ with some old Sonic Implants samples on acoustic guitars, and Chris Hein Guitars through POD Farm on lead guitar. Lots of audio plug-ins, too, but too many to even begin to remember or list. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > This is probably my most ambitious recording project since updating to > 64-bit with SONAR 8.5 and, in fact, since finishing my album early > last summer. It isn't a brand new recording in that most of the MIDI > stuff was recorded years ago (I did add some new controller and > keyswitch stuff for Chris Hein Guitars, though, and did some other > general editing), but I replaced all the software instruments and > recorded entirely new vocals (even changed one line in the lyrics) > before remixing it. The song is called "Under the Influence", written > with Anders Rasmussen and Donna Aylor. > > My first "final mix candidate" is at: > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 > > Any feedback would be appreciated Nice song Rick. Were you drunk when you wrote it? -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
"Glennbo" <> wrote in message news:Xns9D6199A2F9E59BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.213... > The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the > controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> My first "final mix candidate" is at: >> >> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >> >> Any feedback would be appreciated > > Nice song Rick. Were you drunk when you wrote it? LOL. Actually, Donna and Anders wrote the original lyrics (I had a hand in tweaking them, but mainly wrote the music), so the question would probably be more applicable to them. ;-) Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
Good song Rick. Reminds me of some 60's band but can't quite put my finger on it. The mix needs some work IMO. I wish I could hear this with no vocals so I can really pinpoint the problems. Is this heavily compressed on the mix bus? Sounds like it to me and you should go way back on that. The drums sound thin in most places except where they are more featured - which tells me over compression and/or too many things sharing similar frequencies. I'm also getting a bit of a low-mid ring throughout. I think I've heard similar thing in some of your other productions which makes me wonder about your mix environment. I would definitely be checking your mixes in as many places as you can to get a real world assessment. The bass gets lost quite a bit as well. Hope this helps. Neil R "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message news:... > "Glennbo" <> wrote in message > news:Xns9D6199A2F9E59BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.213... >> The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the >> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>> My first "final mix candidate" is at: >>> >>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >>> >>> Any feedback would be appreciated >> >> Nice song Rick. Were you drunk when you wrote it? > > LOL. Actually, Donna and Anders wrote the original lyrics (I had a hand > in tweaking them, but mainly wrote the music), so the question would > probably be more applicable to them. ;-) > > Rick > -- > ======================================= > Rick Paul > Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) > Web: www.RickPaul.info > MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic > ======================================= > > >
Thanks for the feedback, Neil. I'll listen again with your comments in mind. I don't think it's heavily compressed on the mix bus or at the mastering stage, but I do strap PSP VintageWarmer 2 across the mix bus to attempt to simulate mixing to tape, and that definitely adds some compression there. Most of the individual tracks are compressed, too. It is a pretty dense mix, and the too many things sharing frequencies could well be an issue. Though I do try and control that with EQ, that is definitely an area where I tend to be somewhat challenged, and my monitoring environment is also fairly challenged. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:... > Good song Rick. Reminds me of some 60's band but can't quite put my finger > on it. > > The mix needs some work IMO. I wish I could hear this with no vocals so I > can really pinpoint the problems. Is this heavily compressed on the mix > bus? Sounds like it to me and you should go way back on that. The drums > sound thin in most places except where they are more featured - which > tells me over compression and/or too many things sharing similar > frequencies. I'm also getting a bit of a low-mid ring throughout. I think > I've heard similar thing in some of your other productions which makes me > wonder about your mix environment. I would definitely be checking your > mixes in as many places as you can to get a real world assessment. The > bass gets lost quite a bit as well. > > Hope this helps. > > Neil R > > "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message > news:... >> "Glennbo" <> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D6199A2F9E59BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.213... >>> The killer robot "Rick Paul" <> grabbed the >>> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>>> My first "final mix candidate" is at: >>>> >>>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >>>> >>>> Any feedback would be appreciated >>> >>> Nice song Rick. Were you drunk when you wrote it? >> >> LOL. Actually, Donna and Anders wrote the original lyrics (I had a hand >> in tweaking them, but mainly wrote the music), so the question would >> probably be more applicable to them. ;-) >> >> Rick >> -- >> ======================================= >> Rick Paul >> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) >> Web: www.RickPaul.info >> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic >> ======================================= >> >> >> > >
On 22/04/2010 02:48, Neil Rutman wrote: > Good song Rick. Reminds me of some 60's band but can't quite put my finger > on it. > > The mix needs some work IMO. I wish I could hear this with no vocals so I > can really pinpoint the problems. Is this heavily compressed on the mix bus? > Sounds like it to me and you should go way back on that. The drums sound > thin in most places except where they are more featured - which tells me > over compression and/or too many things sharing similar frequencies. I'm > also getting a bit of a low-mid ring throughout. I think I've heard similar > thing in some of your other productions which makes me wonder about your mix > environment. I would definitely be checking your mixes in as many places as > you can to get a real world assessment. The bass gets lost quite a bit as > well. > > Hope this helps. > > Neil R > > "Rick Paul"<> wrote in message > news:... >> "Glennbo"<> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D6199A2F9E59BrownShoesDontMakeIt@188.40.43.213... >>> The killer robot "Rick Paul"<> grabbed the >>> controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >>>> My first "final mix candidate" is at: >>>> >>>> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >>>> >>>> Any feedback would be appreciated >>> >>> Nice song Rick. Were you drunk when you wrote it? >> >> LOL. Actually, Donna and Anders wrote the original lyrics (I had a hand >> in tweaking them, but mainly wrote the music), so the question would >> probably be more applicable to them. ;-) >> >> Rick >> -- >> ======================================= >> Rick Paul >> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) >> Web: www.RickPaul.info >> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic >> ======================================= >> >> >> > > Rick, There is no "punch" on the snare drum. If the drums aren't over compressed, then something has happened to the snare to "bury" it. Is there a load of reverb on the drums? Great song though. -- =========== John Braner http://cdbaby.com/cd/JohnBraner http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
NIce song. Sweet chords and melody. Nice vocals! (except for the few autotune type artifacts) Nice guitar sounds! Schweet and cleanish. I agree with Neil's mix comments and will add that it's not easy to mix drums when they're not leading, when it comes to timing. Sounds to me like everyone is playing ahead of the drummer and he's struggling to keep up. That's the bigest problem for the mix IMHO. Steve "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message news:... > This is probably my most ambitious recording project since updating to 64-bit with SONAR 8.5 and, in fact, since finishing my > album early last summer. It isn't a brand new recording in that most of the MIDI stuff was recorded years ago (I did add some new > controller and keyswitch stuff for Chris Hein Guitars, though, and did some other general editing), but I replaced all the > software instruments and recorded entirely new vocals (even changed one line in the lyrics) before remixing it. The song is > called "Under the Influence", written with Anders Rasmussen and Donna Aylor. > > My first "final mix candidate" is at: > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 > > Any feedback would be appreciated > > In case anyone might be interested, the main toys used were: EZ Drummer on drums, Trilogy (through Guitar Rig 3, I think, or > maybe it was POD Farm) on bass, Garritan Steinway on piano, SFZ+ with some old Sonic Implants samples on acoustic guitars, and > Chris Hein Guitars through POD Farm on lead guitar. Lots of audio plug-ins, too, but too many to even begin to remember or list. > > Rick > -- > ======================================= > Rick Paul > Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) > Web: www.RickPaul.info > MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic > ======================================= > > > > >
"John Braner" <> wrote in message news:hqp1e2$8u5$-september.org... > There is no "punch" on the snare drum. If the drums aren't over > compressed, then something has happened to the snare to "bury" it. Is > there a load of reverb on the drums? I'm just using EZ Drummer's Nashville set, with one of the presets (probably the default one) on the drums to blend to a stereo track. Processing beyond that is fairly minimal. Off the top of my head I know I sent it to PSP VintageWarmer 2 with a track to tape preset, which would add some overall drum set compression, and I send a very minimal amount of the drums to the room reverb to try and blend them with the rest of the tracks a bit more. The Nashville EZX preset I'm using already has room mics for the drums, so I don't want to add much reverb beyond that. I think the only other processing I did on the drums was running it through Channel Tools to narrow the stereo field, shooting for more of a stage setup perspective on the "band", as opposed to drums that seem to be as wide as the rest of the band. If I did anything beyond that, I might have used some EQ to make some minor reductions in the 3 kHz and/or 200 Hz areas to let the vocals come through more there (basically presence and warmth territories), but I don't recall having done that on this project, and I don't have it open at the moment. > Great song though. Thanks. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
Thanks for the feedback, Steve. That's an interesting/curious observation on the drums timing in light of my generally sliding other tracks (but not the lead vocals or drums) in time to delay them slightly, trying to move those instruments further back in the virtual soundstage. I'll have to listen more closely for that to see if maybe I did something that undid that or just forgot to do it in this particular project due to it's being fairly spread out in timing of working on it around other things I've got going on. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:hqpa7r$7qa$-september.org... > NIce song. Sweet chords and melody. > Nice vocals! (except for the few autotune type artifacts) Nice guitar > sounds! Schweet and cleanish. > I agree with Neil's mix comments and will add that it's not easy to mix > drums when they're not leading, when it comes to timing. > Sounds to me like everyone is playing ahead of the drummer and he's > struggling to keep up. That's the bigest problem for the mix IMHO. > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message > news:... >> This is probably my most ambitious recording project since updating to >> 64-bit with SONAR 8.5 and, in fact, since finishing my album early last >> summer. It isn't a brand new recording in that most of the MIDI stuff >> was recorded years ago (I did add some new controller and keyswitch stuff >> for Chris Hein Guitars, though, and did some other general editing), but >> I replaced all the software instruments and recorded entirely new vocals >> (even changed one line in the lyrics) before remixing it. The song is >> called "Under the Influence", written with Anders Rasmussen and Donna >> Aylor. >> >> My first "final mix candidate" is at: >> >> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >> >> Any feedback would be appreciated >> >> In case anyone might be interested, the main toys used were: EZ Drummer >> on drums, Trilogy (through Guitar Rig 3, I think, or maybe it was POD >> Farm) on bass, Garritan Steinway on piano, SFZ+ with some old Sonic >> Implants samples on acoustic guitars, and Chris Hein Guitars through POD >> Farm on lead guitar. Lots of audio plug-ins, too, but too many to even >> begin to remember or list. >> >> Rick >> -- >> ======================================= >> Rick Paul >> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) >> Web: www.RickPaul.info >> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic >> ======================================= >> >> >> >> >> > >
On 22/04/2010 19:11, Rick Paul wrote: > "John Braner"<> wrote in message > news:hqp1e2$8u5$-september.org... >> There is no "punch" on the snare drum. If the drums aren't over >> compressed, then something has happened to the snare to "bury" it. Is >> there a load of reverb on the drums? > > I'm just using EZ Drummer's Nashville set, with one of the presets (probably > the default one) on the drums to blend to a stereo track. Processing beyond > that is fairly minimal. Off the top of my head I know I sent it to PSP > VintageWarmer 2 with a track to tape preset, which would add some overall > drum set compression, and I send a very minimal amount of the drums to the > room reverb to try and blend them with the rest of the tracks a bit more. > The Nashville EZX preset I'm using already has room mics for the drums, so I > don't want to add much reverb beyond that. I think the only other > processing I did on the drums was running it through Channel Tools to narrow > the stereo field, shooting for more of a stage setup perspective on the > "band", as opposed to drums that seem to be as wide as the rest of the band. > If I did anything beyond that, I might have used some EQ to make some minor > reductions in the 3 kHz and/or 200 Hz areas to let the vocals come through > more there (basically presence and warmth territories), but I don't recall > having done that on this project, and I don't have it open at the moment. > >> Great song though. > > Thanks. > > Rick could something have gotten out of phase - and maybe doing some comb filtering? something is definitely being "lost" ;-) -- =========== John Braner http://cdbaby.com/cd/JohnBraner http://www.soundclick.com/johnbraner
Rick Paul let loose with the following tirade: > This is probably my most ambitious recording project since updating to 64-bit with SONAR 8.5 and, > in fact, since finishing my album early last summer. It isn't a brand new recording in that most > of the MIDI stuff was recorded years ago (I did add some new controller and keyswitch stuff for > Chris Hein Guitars, though, and did some other general editing), but I replaced all the software > instruments and recorded entirely new vocals (even changed one line in the lyrics) before > remixing it. The song is called "Under the Influence", written with Anders Rasmussen and Donna > Aylor. > > My first "final mix candidate" is at: > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 > > Any feedback would be appreciated > > In case anyone might be interested, the main toys used were: EZ Drummer on drums, Trilogy > (through Guitar Rig 3, I think, or maybe it was POD Farm) on bass, Garritan Steinway on piano, > SFZ+ with some old Sonic Implants samples on acoustic guitars, and Chris Hein Guitars through POD > Farm on lead guitar. Lots of audio plug-ins, too, but too many to even begin to remember or list. > > Rick This is probably my favorite Rick Paul song. It might get some good commercial success. (I hope so!) I, for one, really like those drums. The groove reminds me of that laid back style Ringo played when he and the boys were "fab." <g> -- Cheers, Ben
"Ben Goldman" <> wrote in message news:... > This is probably my favorite Rick Paul song. It might get some good > commercial success. (I hope > so!) Thanks, Ben. I'm hoping to pitch it for Keith Urban within the next week (or at least to a panel that is screening stuff before it gets to the people who actually screen stuff for him -- I don't have any real connections there, so I can only hope it'll get through the first level of screening to even get a chance of real consideration), but want to get another mix done first to put my best foot forward there. I'm going to try tackling that this morning, then can try to finish it off early next week if I don't get far enough today. > I, for one, really like those drums. The groove reminds me of that laid > back style Ringo played > when he and the boys were "fab." <g> Interesting thought, and one I'd never have come up with. I think most people here were complaining about the sounds of the drums in the mix, rather than the drum parts, but another guy I'd gotten some feedback on the mix from felt the drums were way too busy. Interestingly, he had no complaints on the mix. I always feel challenged on mixes, though the one thing I was not liking so much with respect to the drums here is one thing no one mentioned, and that was the sound of the kick drum, which I felt probably could be a lot more muffled. But the one time I was trying to address that I had some problems getting EZ Drummer reconnected in my SONAR project, and I decided I'd just try and get a mix finished for now, then revisit it after getting a feel for how the mix was working overall. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
"John Braner" <> wrote in message news:hqq5dc$v1t$-september.org... > could something have gotten out of phase - and maybe doing some comb > filtering? something is definitely being "lost" ;-) I don't think so as the drums were just a stereo mix of EZ Drummer, not separate tracks for different mics where I was sliding those around individually. I think the only possibility there would be if some other processing (e.g. EQ) were doing something frequency-dependent in that area. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
New mix is now uploaded at the same place: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 A few key changes: 1) Went back to the EZ Drummer kit (Nashville EZX) and changed both the kick and snare drums. I was trying to get the kick drum to be a bit more muffled and the snare to be more beefy. 2) Played a little with the mix inside EZ Drummer, for example turning down the snare bottom mic and turning compressed version of the room up a little. Mainly trying to beef up the drums, especially the snare sound which was emphasizing the high end more than I preferred. 3) Put an EQ on the drums, taking out a little in the vocal presence range and also in the midrange, and a few other very minor tweaks. 4) Mixed the drums considerably louder. 5) Pulled the overall mix back a bit into VintageWarmer 2 to lighten up the amount of mix compression from the tape simulation. 6) Slid other instrumental tracks (i.e. not the drums) and BGVs back in time to mess with the soundstage depth. I thought I'd done the before, but, after listening, I wasn't so sure. In any case, I "eared" them up again to try and get depth positioning more to taste. Now I'm wondering if I may have made the drums too present in the mix, in addition to the more general question on if this mix works overall. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic =======================================
"Rick Paul" <> wrote in message news:... > New mix is now uploaded at the same place: > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 > > A few key changes: > > 1) Went back to the EZ Drummer kit (Nashville EZX) and changed both the kick and snare drums. I was trying to get the kick drum > to be a bit more muffled and the snare to be more beefy. > > 2) Played a little with the mix inside EZ Drummer, for example turning down the snare bottom mic and turning compressed version of > the room up a little. Mainly trying to beef up the drums, especially the snare sound which was emphasizing the high end more than > I preferred. > > 3) Put an EQ on the drums, taking out a little in the vocal presence range and also in the midrange, and a few other very minor > tweaks. > > 4) Mixed the drums considerably louder. > > 5) Pulled the overall mix back a bit into VintageWarmer 2 to lighten up the amount of mix compression from the tape simulation. > > 6) Slid other instrumental tracks (i.e. not the drums) and BGVs back in time to mess with the soundstage depth. I thought I'd > done the before, but, after listening, I wasn't so sure. In any case, I "eared" them up again to try and get depth positioning > more to taste. > > Now I'm wondering if I may have made the drums too present in the mix, in addition to the more general question on if this mix > works overall. Yes. ... drums are too hot and still need to be quantized in my opinion. Steve > > Rick > -- > ======================================= > Rick Paul > Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) > Web: www.RickPaul.info > MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic > ======================================= > > >
Thanks for the quick feedback, Steve. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:hqst6d$q8$-september.org... > > "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message > news:... >> New mix is now uploaded at the same place: >> >> http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 >> >> A few key changes: >> >> 1) Went back to the EZ Drummer kit (Nashville EZX) and changed both the >> kick and snare drums. I was trying to get the kick drum to be a bit more >> muffled and the snare to be more beefy. >> >> 2) Played a little with the mix inside EZ Drummer, for example turning >> down the snare bottom mic and turning compressed version of the room up a >> little. Mainly trying to beef up the drums, especially the snare sound >> which was emphasizing the high end more than I preferred. >> >> 3) Put an EQ on the drums, taking out a little in the vocal presence >> range and also in the midrange, and a few other very minor tweaks. >> >> 4) Mixed the drums considerably louder. >> >> 5) Pulled the overall mix back a bit into VintageWarmer 2 to lighten up >> the amount of mix compression from the tape simulation. >> >> 6) Slid other instrumental tracks (i.e. not the drums) and BGVs back in >> time to mess with the soundstage depth. I thought I'd done the before, >> but, after listening, I wasn't so sure. In any case, I "eared" them up >> again to try and get depth positioning more to taste. >> >> Now I'm wondering if I may have made the drums too present in the mix, in >> addition to the more general question on if this mix works overall. > > Yes. ... drums are too hot and still need to be quantized in my opinion. > Steve > > > > > > > > >> >> Rick >> -- >> ======================================= >> Rick Paul >> Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) >> Web: www.RickPaul.info >> MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic >> ======================================= >> >> >> > >
I hope you get that chance, Rick. Best of luck to you, -- Sue Morton Rick Paul wrote: > I'm hoping to pitch it for Keith Urban within the next week (or at > least to a panel that is screening stuff before it gets to the people > who actually screen stuff for him -- I don't have any real connections > there, so I can only hope it'll get through the first level of > screening to even get a chance of real consideration)
Hey Rick, This is much, much better. I can appreciate the song a lot more now. Very cool. A few things still could make this much better - 2 main ones: 1. Steve eluded to this. The band doesn't sound tight to me. Pretty loose and I think it may all start with the drums. I would solo the drums with a click and make sure it is consistent throughout. Then add bass and do the same thing - adding each instrument one at a time to make sure it's all really tight. 2. The lead vocal doesn't cut through enough. I don't think this is a volume issue as much as a frequency one. Good trick here is to separate lead voc from the rest of the track and use freq analyser to see what the main voc frequencies are and dip those frequencies on the rest of the track. My 2 cents. Neil R "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:hqusr2$521$-september.org... >I hope you get that chance, Rick. Best of luck to you, > -- > Sue Morton > > Rick Paul wrote: >> I'm hoping to pitch it for Keith Urban within the next week (or at least >> to a panel that is screening stuff before it gets to the people who >> actually screen stuff for him -- I don't have any real connections there, >> so I can only hope it'll get through the first level of screening to even >> get a chance of real consideration) > >
Thanks for the "2 cents", Neil, and the good wishes, Sue. I'm helping judge the preliminary rounds of a charity talent contest all day today and tomorrow, so won't get a chance to revisit this until Monday, but will try looking into it then. Rick -- ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: www.RickPaul.info MySpace: www.myspace.com/rickpaulmusic ======================================= "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:... > Hey Rick, > > This is much, much better. I can appreciate the song a lot more now. Very > cool. > A few things still could make this much better - 2 main ones: > 1. Steve eluded to this. The band doesn't sound tight to me. Pretty loose > and I think it may all start with the drums. I would solo the drums with a > click and make sure it is consistent throughout. Then add bass and do the > same thing - adding each instrument one at a time to make sure it's all > really tight. > > 2. The lead vocal doesn't cut through enough. I don't think this is a > volume issue as much as a frequency one. Good trick here is to separate > lead voc from the rest of the track and use freq analyser to see what the > main voc frequencies are and dip those frequencies on the rest of the > track. > > My 2 cents. > > Neil R > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message > news:hqusr2$521$-september.org... >>I hope you get that chance, Rick. Best of luck to you, >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> Rick Paul wrote: >>> I'm hoping to pitch it for Keith Urban within the next week (or at least >>> to a panel that is screening stuff before it gets to the people who >>> actually screen stuff for him -- I don't have any real connections >>> there, so I can only hope it'll get through the first level of screening >>> to even get a chance of real consideration) >> >> > >
Rick Paul let loose with the following tirade: > New mix is now uploaded at the same place: > > http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9046510 > > A few key changes: > > 1) Went back to the EZ Drummer kit (Nashville EZX) and changed both the kick and snare drums. I > was trying to get the kick drum to be a bit more muffled and the snare to be more beefy. > > 2) Played a little with the mix inside EZ Drummer, for example turning down the snare bottom mic > and turning compressed version of the room up a little. Mainly trying to beef up the drums, > especially the snare sound which was emphasizing the high end more than I preferred. > > 3) Put an EQ on the drums, taking out a little in the vocal presence range and also in the > midrange, and a few other very minor tweaks. > > 4) Mixed the drums considerably louder. > > 5) Pulled the overall mix back a bit into VintageWarmer 2 to lighten up the amount of mix > compression from the tape simulation. > > 6) Slid other instrumental tracks (i.e. not the drums) and BGVs back in time to mess with the > soundstage depth. I thought I'd done the before, but, after listening, I wasn't so sure. In any > case, I "eared" them up again to try and get depth positioning more to taste. > > Now I'm wondering if I may have made the drums too present in the mix, in addition to the more > general question on if this mix works overall. > > Rick Drums are where I like them. Keys are way to quiet for my tastes. They're too important to the genre to bury, IMO. You're still cooking with gas, dude. -- Cheers, Ben
