Stage Piano Thoughts - Roland FP-7F, Kawai ES6, Yamaha CP1, others...

Discussion in 'Keyboard Purchase Recommendations' started by pianoman2001, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. pianoman2001 New Member

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    Hi all -

    I currently have a Yamaha P-140, which I bought in 2005. It has a nice sound to it, and pretty good action. However, I am looking to move up to a better stage piano, particularly one with more realistic action.

    I'm looking at top stage pianos that are hopefully not too heavy (even at 40 pounds, the P-140 is on the heavier side), have great action, and are really focused on the sound and feel more than all sorts of sounds and features...

    THOUGHTS ON ANY OF THESE THREE OR ANY OTHERS WOULD BE VERY WELCOME! Thanks!
    - Roland FP-7F: a nice keyboard with a lot of options for adjusting action, cabinet resonance, touch sensitivity, etc. Although it has a little bit of a less bright/rich sound than I'd like, this is something that can be adjusted. (53 pounds)
    - Kawai ES6: I haven't gotten to play this yet, but it seems intriguing and like a quality possibility. (47 pounds)
    - Yamaha CP1: this is supposed to be the best of the CP series with realistic action. It has some of the same options for adjusting feel/sound that the Roland FP-7F does. It's quite heavy though. (59 pounds)
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    goz211 Moderator

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    Welcome to the forum.

    Roland FP-7F - just under £1500
    Kawai ES6 - just over £1000
    Yamaha CP1 - just under £4000

    Here's the Sound On Sound review of the Yamaha by Robin Bigwood - I don't recognise his name as one of the reviewers I am familiar with but it's a good publication

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun10/articles/yamahacp1.htm

    Are you going to gig with whatever you buy?

    How important are built in speakers to you?
  2. pianoman2001 New Member

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    Hi there -

    Thanks very much for your response and the link you gave. I am mostly going to be gigging with the keyboard I buy. (I have a grand piano at home.) Built-in speakers are great but not crucial.
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    Ok - try a Casio PX-3 on the sturdiest stand the shop has - you may be surprised how good it is. It's also very lightweight despite the weighted keys - easy to get in and out of venues.

    If you're playing well paid gigs and the look is important - and you've roadies or crew to set-up/take down, post back.
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  3. Blazerboy971 New Member

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    get a nord stage 73. the best by a mile
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    Hi Pianoman,

    I would definitely take a look at the nord range. Their keyboards are of a very high quality and produce a great sound.

    hope you find what your looking for.

    Nathan
    www.sustainpedal.co.uk
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    I agree with Blazerboy. I really think that if you want to get the best for a decent price you really have to look at the Nord range. They are red, too!!
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    You need to get a nord. You know it makes sense.
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    OK it seems that NORD seeems to be the way to go for a stage piano (and thern some) but where can I get a good one secopndhand please? I haven't seen any on EBAY for a good while? Any suggestions Please? WelshPhil
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    To be honest, it's very subjective, try one out first.

    The Nord Stage 88 is a very nice piece of kit, but if you sit it next to some much older, much cheaper units, you may not be quite so impressed. Phil, given your location I'd head down to Dawsons in Chester and try a few out before getting the credit card out.

    I still rate the Kawai MP9000 and some aspects of the Roland A90 over the Nord. Both of which can be had much cheaper, but the Nord is red. So it's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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    In fact, I'm not casting aspersions but three of the posts above are from similar accounts, 1 post, all advertising products in their signature, just seems a bit odd.
  10. WelshPhil New Member

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    Dear Ootini - thanks I will try to do that asap. Do you know if Dawsons have the Kawai for example? Or can they get one in for me to try? Last time I was in there I ended up buying a 2nd hand Tyros 2 for about £1100. Its great as a base and primary instrument with all the backing tracks,. styles, and great piano and electric piano sounds etc but it's not a true Stage Piano and definitely a Yamaha if you see what I mean. I have a Fatar Studio 900 MIDI 88note keyboard (which is great feel and touch of course) driving either/both a Roland JV1010 and Roland JV1080 modules with all the pianos and EPs etc that each MIDI sound module has within it! So that is great but NOT good for taking about and gigging etc. Any suggestions on that side of things please,my friend? Also BTW perhaps we can meet for a beer and chat ? Any ideas? drop me an email or call me on 078751 234981. Cheers. Phil
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    It's unlikely they'll have a Kawai in as I think they're discontinued, you'd just have to get lucky and find a second hand one in a shop somewhere. They may well have the Nord in and possibly the Korg high end synth and workstations.
    Meeting for a pint sounds like a plan, I'll give you a bell soon when I know when I'd be free!
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    Great! Thanks mate! Where are you actually? I am staying in Connahs Quay Deeside, but come over to Bramhall/Cheadle Hulme area to meet and play with my long-time friend and guitarist there. Are you anywhere near that area? Phil
  13. ootini New Member

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    No I'm further west, not far from Holywell. Originally from Llandudno.
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    Dear Ootini - I used to live in Conwy (but getting divorced at present hence the ocation in Connahs Quay!) and pop into Llandudno each weekend with my daughter aged 10 !!

    Lets grab a beer (say) on a Friday evening perhaps or maybe, if you are gigging, I could come and see you and buy you a beer then? Thoughts? Phil
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    Sounds like a plan, to be fair my band tend to play outside of the local area, we're playing The Borderline Club in Soho, London at the end of the month, then looking at gigs around the Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool region after that, maybe even Leeds, not played there before.

    But yes a pint and a chat about nerdy keyboard stuff sounds like a plan!
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