I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded into Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is locked at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from itunes 9 to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will if no noe can think of what might be causing this???? Neil R
"Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:... > I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded into > Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all > playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is locked > at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar > files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from itunes 9 > to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any > thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will if > no noe can think of what might be causing this???? How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media Player? Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? Poly
Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no reason to test them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! Neil R "polymod" <> wrote in message news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... > > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message > news:... >> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded > into >> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all >> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is > locked >> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar >> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from >> itunes > 9 >> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any >> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will >> if >> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? > > How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media > Player? > Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? > > Poly > >
My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio and set it to the Layla. Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties "Don't map through this device" If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( echo has a remover util. ) Reboot and reinstall the Layla. You won't loose your Saved Sessions. G' Luck! Steve "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news... > Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no > reason to test them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! > > Neil R > > "polymod" <> wrote in message news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >> >> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >> news:... >>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded >> into >>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all >>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >> locked >>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar >>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from itunes >> 9 >>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any >>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will if >>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >> >> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media Player? >> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >> >> Poly >> >> > >
Thanks Steve. I did all of that andno help. The only thing I can think of is that some how my machine was recording at a faster speed the day of this project and now it's back to normal speed and the files are playing like chipmunks. I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch down/slow down a file in reaper. Neil R "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:id9aeu$9a9$-september.org... > My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) > Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio > and set it to the Layla. > Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB > > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties > "Don't map through this device" > > If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( echo > has a remover util. ) > Reboot and reinstall the Layla. > You won't loose your Saved Sessions. > > G' Luck! > > Steve > > > > > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message > news... >> Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. >> Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no reason to test them >> outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! >> >> Neil R >> >> "polymod" <> wrote in message >> news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >>> >>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>> news:... >>>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded >>> into >>>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all >>>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >>> locked >>>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar >>>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from >>>> itunes >>> 9 >>>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any >>>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will >>>> if >>>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >>> >>> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media >>> Player? >>> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >>> >>> Poly >>> >>> >> >> > >
In news: the killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... > I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch down/slow down > a file in reaper. It's as easy as grabbing the playback rate slider and moving it down till you are to pitch. Just like an old analog recorder. Like dis!!! http://members.cox.net/spambaconandspam/Varispeed.avi -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
I have had this happen a few time with Layla. I really don't know how or why it happens. Some how the clock gets shifted and the files are recorded @48K instead of 44K. The only way I have found to fix it is to open the files in Wavelab and change the sample rate there. Then they will open elsewhere ok. If they are very important files, and you can't shift the sample rate. Let me know, I could help. Good luck. Max Arwood 1-870-572-2306 day 1-870-338-3326 night "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks Steve. I did all of that andno help. The only thing I can think of > is that some how my machine was recording at a faster speed the day of > this project and now it's back to normal speed and the files are playing > like chipmunks. I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch > down/slow down a file in reaper. > > Neil R > > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message > news:id9aeu$9a9$-september.org... >> My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) >> Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >> and set it to the Layla. >> Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB >> > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties >> "Don't map through this device" >> >> If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( >> echo has a remover util. ) >> Reboot and reinstall the Layla. >> You won't loose your Saved Sessions. >> >> G' Luck! >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >> news... >>> Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. >>> Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no reason to test >>> them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! >>> >>> Neil R >>> >>> "polymod" <> wrote in message >>> news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >>>> >>>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>>> news:... >>>>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I >>>>> recorded >>>> into >>>>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are >>>>> all >>>>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >>>> locked >>>>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other >>>>> Sonar >>>>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from >>>>> itunes >>>> 9 >>>>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any >>>>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I >>>>> will if >>>>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >>>> >>>> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media >>>> Player? >>>> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >>>> >>>> Poly >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
In news:Xns9E42C37FDD228BrownShoesDontMakeIt@85.214.73.210 the killer robot Glennbo <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons... >> I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch down/slow down >> a file in reaper. > > It's as easy as grabbing the playback rate slider and moving it down > till you are to pitch. Just like an old analog recorder. Like > dis!!! http://members.cox.net/spambaconandspam/Varispeed.avi BTW, the audio in this clip is distorted because it was being picked up by the mic in my Logitech camera and only recorded at 8 bit 11,025Khz. I figgered if the clip had some audio, it would illustrate the variable speed playback/record function better. -- Remove YourHeadFromYourAss to Reply by email ________ __ / ____/ /__ ____ ____ / /_ ____ / / __/ / _ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \/ __ \ / /_/ / / __/ / / / / / / /_/ / /_/ / \____/_/\___/_/ /_/_/ /_/_.___/\____/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glennbo http://www.soundclick.com/glennbo Non-Linear Sound http://www.soundclick.com/jambits Hear My Music http://www.soundclick.com/ThePseudonyms
Thanks Max & Glennbo. I'll be working on this tonight and report back if I need more help. Neil R "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message news:id9g9k$k1d$-september.org... >I have had this happen a few time with Layla. I really don't know how or >why it happens. Some how the clock gets shifted and the files are recorded >@48K instead of 44K. The only way I have found to fix it is to open the >files in Wavelab and change the sample rate there. Then they will open >elsewhere ok. > If they are very important files, and you can't shift the sample rate. > Let me know, I could help. > > Good luck. > Max Arwood > > 1-870-572-2306 day > 1-870-338-3326 night > > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Thanks Steve. I did all of that andno help. The only thing I can think of >> is that some how my machine was recording at a faster speed the day of >> this project and now it's back to normal speed and the files are playing >> like chipmunks. I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch >> down/slow down a file in reaper. >> >> Neil R >> >> "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message >> news:id9aeu$9a9$-september.org... >>> My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) >>> Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >>> and set it to the Layla. >>> Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB >>> > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties >>> "Don't map through this device" >>> >>> If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( >>> echo has a remover util. ) >>> Reboot and reinstall the Layla. >>> You won't loose your Saved Sessions. >>> >>> G' Luck! >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>> news... >>>> Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. >>>> Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no reason to test >>>> them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! >>>> >>>> Neil R >>>> >>>> "polymod" <> wrote in message >>>> news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >>>>> >>>>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>>>> news:... >>>>>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I >>>>>> recorded >>>>> into >>>>>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are >>>>>> all >>>>>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >>>>> locked >>>>>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other >>>>>> Sonar >>>>>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from >>>>>> itunes >>>>> 9 >>>>>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? >>>>>> Any >>>>>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I >>>>>> will if >>>>>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >>>>> >>>>> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media >>>>> Player? >>>>> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >>>>> >>>>> Poly >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
Yea. I suspect the same. Possibly check the sample rate in an Audio Editor and then compare it to the project rate? I had a similar problem when transfering tracks from a DA-38. Something about "resampling" vs just "changing the sample rate" ( Sound Forge lingo ) Steve "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:... > Thanks Steve. I did all of that andno help. The only thing I can think of is that some how my machine was recording at a faster > speed the day of this project and now it's back to normal speed and the files are playing like chipmunks. I'll have to ping > glennbo and ask him how to pitch down/slow down a file in reaper. > > Neil R > > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message news:id9aeu$9a9$-september.org... >> My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >> and set it to the Layla. >> Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties >> "Don't map through this device" >> >> If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( echo has a remover util. ) >> Reboot and reinstall the Layla. >> You won't loose your Saved Sessions. >> >> G' Luck! >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news... >>> Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no >>> reason to test them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! >>> >>> Neil R >>> >>> "polymod" <> wrote in message news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >>>> >>>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>>> news:... >>>>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I recorded >>>> into >>>>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are all >>>>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >>>> locked >>>>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other Sonar >>>>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from itunes >>>> 9 >>>>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? Any >>>>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I will if >>>>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >>>> >>>> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media Player? >>>> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >>>> >>>> Poly >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
I seem to remember something like this in the very distant past (very possibly not in a Cakewalk app at all -- possibly in N-Track Studio or Samplitude or SAWse or something else that I was using at the time). The basic issue was that files got tagged with the wrong sample rate, even though they were recording at the right sample rate. The issue was the tag, not the actual audio data. Whatever software I was using at the time (maybe SAWse, which was the audio component of MasterTracks Pro Audio, or perhaps some earlier version of Sound Forge or Cool Edit) had a way to edit the tagged sample rate without changing the actual data. My ultra-vague memory is that a program doing the recording (or maybe an audio card driver -- I think I was using the Sonorus STUDI/O board at that time, but it's conceivable it could have been the MOTU 2048 mkII) was set to a different sample rate than the actual audio card, and the card was correct (thus getting the audio data right, but the tag wrong) -- the having the program at the wrong rate was just a "user error" in forgetting to change a rate in the software. Once the audio files were retagged with the right rate, the audio data and tags were in sync, and software didn't try to speed it up or slow it down (depending on the direction) due to the erroneous tag. At this point in time, I really don't recall actual details of what software I was using, no less specific operational steps to do the tweaking to get things set right. Good luck. Rick ======================================= Rick Paul Closet Cowboy Music (ASCAP) Web: http://www.RickPaul.info Studio: http://studio.RickPaul.info ======================================= "Neil Rutman" wrote in message news:... Thanks Max & Glennbo. I'll be working on this tonight and report back if I need more help. Neil R "Max Arwood" <> wrote in message news:id9g9k$k1d$-september.org... >I have had this happen a few time with Layla. I really don't know how or >why it happens. Some how the clock gets shifted and the files are recorded >@48K instead of 44K. The only way I have found to fix it is to open the >files in Wavelab and change the sample rate there. Then they will open >elsewhere ok. > If they are very important files, and you can't shift the sample rate. Let > me know, I could help. > > Good luck. > Max Arwood > > 1-870-572-2306 day > 1-870-338-3326 night > > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message > news:... >> Thanks Steve. I did all of that andno help. The only thing I can think of >> is that some how my machine was recording at a faster speed the day of >> this project and now it's back to normal speed and the files are playing >> like chipmunks. I'll have to ping glennbo and ask him how to pitch >> down/slow down a file in reaper. >> >> Neil R >> >> "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message >> news:id9aeu$9a9$-september.org... >>> My next guess would be check your "Default Device" settings in ( if XP ) >>> Control > Panel > Sounds and Audio Devices > Audio >>> and set it to the Layla. >>> Also Hardware (tab) Find Layla in the list > Properties > Properties TAB >>> > Audio Devices > + > Layla >Properties >>> "Don't map through this device" >>> >>> If that doesn't get it then I'd remove the Layla remove all drivers ( >>> echo has a remover util. ) >>> Reboot and reinstall the Layla. >>> You won't loose your Saved Sessions. >>> >>> G' Luck! >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>> news... >>>> Thank for your reply Poly. They play the same way outside of Sonar now. >>>> Yesterday they played fine inside of Sonar and had no reason to test >>>> them outside. Copying to a fresh project doesn't help. Crazy!!! >>>> >>>> Neil R >>>> >>>> "polymod" <> wrote in message >>>> news:4cf81ab9$0$5779$... >>>>> >>>>> "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message >>>>> news:... >>>>>> I'm working on series of commercials for a client. The files I >>>>>> recorded >>>>> into >>>>>> Sonar 8 a few days ago (mostly spoken word and sound fx so far) are >>>>>> all >>>>>> playing sped up. Recorded at 44.1 - 24 bit. Sound card (Layla 24 ) is >>>>> locked >>>>>> at 44.1 but still it sounds like it's playing at 48. All my other >>>>>> Sonar >>>>>> files seem to be fine. Only change to the system was upgrading from >>>>>> itunes >>>>> 9 >>>>>> to10. If that caused this issue why would my other files play ok?? >>>>>> Any >>>>>> thoughts? I would prefer not to delete itunes from my system but I >>>>>> will if >>>>>> no noe can think of what might be causing this???? >>>>> >>>>> How do the wav files play outside of Sonar eg: thru Winamp or Media >>>>> Player? >>>>> Can you just copy the wavs to another fresh project? >>>>> >>>>> Poly >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
