Studio options - Advice needed

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  1. Gavin Guest

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    I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    knowledgeable about these things, please:

    Option 1
    1 room 11x20

    Option 2:
    2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    Room A - 11x13
    Room b - 11x9

    Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better sound, or
    should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of isolation,
    possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?

    I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel walled, and
    have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be quiet at
    night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two separate
    rooms.

    I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects. Mostly
    solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very seldom
    a full band.

    Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks so much,
    --
    Gavin
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  2. Ricky W. Hunt Guest

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    Single 11x20 room.

    "Gavin" <> wrote in message
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    >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    >
    > Option 1
    > 1 room 11x20
    >
    > Option 2:
    > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    > Room A - 11x13
    > Room b - 11x9
    >
    > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better sound, or
    > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of isolation,
    > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    >
    > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel walled,
    > and
    > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be quiet at
    > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    > separate
    > rooms.
    >
    > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    > Mostly
    > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    > seldom
    > a full band.
    >
    > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks so much,
    > --
    > Gavin
    >
    >
    >
  3. Steven Bell Guest

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    Ditto.
    As soon as you said you weren't going to able to treat the rooms, the choice
    became clearer.

    My current studio is a 12x22x9 (single) room.

    Steven

    "Ricky W. Hunt" <> wrote in message
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    > Single 11x20 room.
    >
    > "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    > > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    > > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    > >
    > > Option 1
    > > 1 room 11x20
    > >
    > > Option 2:
    > > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    > > Room A - 11x13
    > > Room b - 11x9
    > >
    > > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better sound,

    or
    > > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of isolation,
    > > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    > >
    > > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel walled,
    > > and
    > > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be quiet

    at
    > > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    > > separate
    > > rooms.
    > >
    > > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    > > Mostly
    > > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    > > seldom
    > > a full band.
    > >
    > > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    > >
    > > Thanks so much,
    > > --
    > > Gavin
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  4. Gavin Guest

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    I can treat the rooms - i just can't SOUNDPROOF.

    I'm planning on using this:

    http://www.primacoustic.com/LZ16.htm

    So in that case - same reccomendation?

    "Steven Bell" <> wrote in message
    news:2PxHd.196$...
    > Ditto.
    > As soon as you said you weren't going to able to treat the rooms, the
    > choice
    > became clearer.
    >
    > My current studio is a 12x22x9 (single) room.
    >
    > Steven
    >
    > "Ricky W. Hunt" <> wrote in message
    > news:3HvHd.15205$eT5.8772@attbi_s51...
    >> Single 11x20 room.
    >>
    >> "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    >> > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    >> > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    >> >
    >> > Option 1
    >> > 1 room 11x20
    >> >
    >> > Option 2:
    >> > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    >> > Room A - 11x13
    >> > Room b - 11x9
    >> >
    >> > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better sound,

    > or
    >> > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of isolation,
    >> > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    >> >
    >> > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel walled,
    >> > and
    >> > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be quiet

    > at
    >> > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    >> > separate
    >> > rooms.
    >> >
    >> > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    >> > Mostly
    >> > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    >> > seldom
    >> > a full band.
    >> >
    >> > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks so much,
    >> > --
    >> > Gavin
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
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  5. Gavin Guest

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    Asked another way 0 is it really BAD to have a control room that's "only"
    10'6" x 13', or with treatment , is that an acceptable size?

    Gavin


    "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I can treat the rooms - i just can't SOUNDPROOF.
    >
    > I'm planning on using this:
    >
    > http://www.primacoustic.com/LZ16.htm
    >
    > So in that case - same reccomendation?
    >
    > "Steven Bell" <> wrote in message
    > news:2PxHd.196$...
    >> Ditto.
    >> As soon as you said you weren't going to able to treat the rooms, the
    >> choice
    >> became clearer.
    >>
    >> My current studio is a 12x22x9 (single) room.
    >>
    >> Steven
    >>
    >> "Ricky W. Hunt" <> wrote in message
    >> news:3HvHd.15205$eT5.8772@attbi_s51...
    >>> Single 11x20 room.
    >>>
    >>> "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>> >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    >>> > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    >>> > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    >>> >
    >>> > Option 1
    >>> > 1 room 11x20
    >>> >
    >>> > Option 2:
    >>> > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    >>> > Room A - 11x13
    >>> > Room b - 11x9
    >>> >
    >>> > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better
    >>> > sound,

    >> or
    >>> > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of
    >>> > isolation,
    >>> > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    >>> >
    >>> > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel
    >>> > walled,
    >>> > and
    >>> > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be
    >>> > quiet

    >> at
    >>> > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    >>> > separate
    >>> > rooms.
    >>> >
    >>> > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    >>> > Mostly
    >>> > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    >>> > seldom
    >>> > a full band.
    >>> >
    >>> > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    >>> >
    >>> > Thanks so much,
    >>> > --
    >>> > Gavin
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
  6. Roberto Cerini Guest

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    You may want to ask here as well:
    http://forum.studiotips.com/index.php

    Rob



    "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    >
    > Option 1
    > 1 room 11x20
    >
    > Option 2:
    > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    > Room A - 11x13
    > Room b - 11x9
    >
    > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better sound, or
    > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of isolation,
    > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    >
    > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel walled,
    > and
    > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be quiet at
    > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    > separate
    > rooms.
    >
    > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    > Mostly
    > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    > seldom
    > a full band.
    >
    > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks so much,
    > --
    > Gavin
    >
    >
    >
  7. pac Guest

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    How high are the ceilings,what material is the ceiling made of, what's
    on the floor?

    Go here and spend days learning...


    http://johnlsayers.com/phpBB2/index.php

    Good people in the forum over there and a lot of designs for rooms.

    pac



    Gavin wrote:

    > Asked another way 0 is it really BAD to have a control room that's "only"
    > 10'6" x 13', or with treatment , is that an acceptable size?
    >
    > Gavin
    >
    >
    > "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >
    >>I can treat the rooms - i just can't SOUNDPROOF.
    >>
    >>I'm planning on using this:
    >>
    >>http://www.primacoustic.com/LZ16.htm
    >>
    >>So in that case - same reccomendation?
    >>
    >>"Steven Bell" <> wrote in message
    >>news:2PxHd.196$...
    >>
    >>>Ditto.
    >>>As soon as you said you weren't going to able to treat the rooms, the
    >>>choice
    >>>became clearer.
    >>>
    >>>My current studio is a 12x22x9 (single) room.
    >>>
    >>>Steven
    >>>
    >>>"Ricky W. Hunt" <> wrote in message
    >>>news:3HvHd.15205$eT5.8772@attbi_s51...
    >>>
    >>>>Single 11x20 room.
    >>>>
    >>>>"Gavin" <> wrote in message
    >>>>news:...
    >>>>
    >>>>>I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    >>>>>building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone is
    >>>>>knowledgeable about these things, please:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Option 1
    >>>>>1 room 11x20
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Option 2:
    >>>>>2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    >>>>>Room A - 11x13
    >>>>>Room b - 11x9
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better
    >>>>>sound,
    >>>
    >>>or
    >>>
    >>>>>should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of
    >>>>>isolation,
    >>>>>possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel
    >>>>>walled,
    >>>>>and
    >>>>>have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be
    >>>>>quiet
    >>>
    >>>at
    >>>
    >>>>>night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    >>>>>separate
    >>>>>rooms.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some projects.
    >>>>>Mostly
    >>>>>solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or very
    >>>>>seldom
    >>>>>a full band.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Thanks so much,
    >>>>>--
    >>>>>Gavin
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >
  8. Steven Bell Guest

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    Sorry I missed the distinction between treating vs. "proofing". It does
    make it a little less clear-cut. But you did say, "cannot do much
    treatment". Since smaller means more treatment, I'd still say keep it big.

    What I am learning about room acoustics and treatment is that the smaller
    you go, the more you'll need to treat (fix, bandage, absorb) because the
    sound will be bouncing all over the place.

    And since it's primarily yourself in there, isolation isn't a big deal.
    And with the second most likely use recording one person at a time, I don't
    see much value in the small amount of isolation you'd be getting with the
    limited treatment.

    Disclaimer: I am *not* an expert at this. Just some who knows how to read
    and type.

    Steven



    "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Asked another way 0 is it really BAD to have a control room that's "only"
    > 10'6" x 13', or with treatment , is that an acceptable size?
    >
    > Gavin
    >
    >
    > "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I can treat the rooms - i just can't SOUNDPROOF.
    > >
    > > I'm planning on using this:
    > >
    > > http://www.primacoustic.com/LZ16.htm
    > >
    > > So in that case - same reccomendation?
    > >
    > > "Steven Bell" <> wrote in message
    > > news:2PxHd.196$...
    > >> Ditto.
    > >> As soon as you said you weren't going to able to treat the rooms, the
    > >> choice
    > >> became clearer.
    > >>
    > >> My current studio is a 12x22x9 (single) room.
    > >>
    > >> Steven
    > >>
    > >> "Ricky W. Hunt" <> wrote in message
    > >> news:3HvHd.15205$eT5.8772@attbi_s51...
    > >>> Single 11x20 room.
    > >>>
    > >>> "Gavin" <> wrote in message
    > >>> news:...
    > >>> >I have a project studio which I'm moving into a location in my office
    > >>> > building. I have TWO options, and would like some advice if anyone

    is
    > >>> > knowledgeable about these things, please:
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Option 1
    > >>> > 1 room 11x20
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Option 2:
    > >>> > 2 rooms beside each other separated by a door:
    > >>> > Room A - 11x13
    > >>> > Room b - 11x9
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Am I better to use the one LARGER room in hopes of having better
    > >>> > sound,
    > >> or
    > >>> > should I take the two SMALLER rooms, which gives me a BIT of
    > >>> > isolation,
    > >>> > possibly at the expense of sound quality due to the smaller size?
    > >>> >
    > >>> > I should mention that each of the rooms are completely parallel
    > >>> > walled,
    > >>> > and
    > >>> > have an 8 foot ceiling. This is an office building, which will be
    > >>> > quiet
    > >> at
    > >>> > night, but I CANNOT do much treatment in either the one room or two
    > >>> > separate
    > >>> > rooms.
    > >>> >
    > >>> > I will be tracking myself half the time, and other for some

    projects.
    > >>> > Mostly
    > >>> > solo artists tracing on instrument at a time. Probably never, or

    very
    > >>> > seldom
    > >>> > a full band.
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Any advice on which way to go, and why would be greatly appreciated.
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Thanks so much,
    > >>> > --
    > >>> > Gavin
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >
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