Sync Issues

Discussion in 'cakewalk.audio' started by Neil Rutman, May 10, 2010.

  1. Neil Rutman Guest

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    This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose. When
    I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is slightly
    delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track it
    was created with. This is also happening with giga track being fed into the
    machine via toslink.

    When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with a
    mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a couple
    of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and
    drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.

    WXP
    Sonar 8

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks,

    Neil R
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  2. Glennbo Guest

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    The killer robot "Neil Rutman" <> grabbed the
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    > This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help
    > diagnose. When I record a midi part into computer from an external
    > synth it is slightly delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio
    > track with the midi track it was created with. This is also happening
    > with giga track being fed into the machine via toslink.
    >
    > When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything
    > with a mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at
    > least a couple of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24
    > (hardware and drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and
    > uad2 card.


    Sonar has an offset you can tweak for this kind of problem, but I've never
    used it so other than it being there, I don't know much else about it.

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  3. Steve_Karl Guest

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    I'd check on G'bo's thought first.
    I think it's called midi offset and it's a tweak that is done in one of the .ini files.
    The "real forum" people will know exactly how what and where.

    Your giga tracks via toslink most likely aren't related to this but it would be great if the midi offset
    fixed that also.

    If you reinstalled your Gina24 then check your Console > Settings > GSIF > and make sure you're not running at too
    high of a buffer. I always run at 64 samples.
    This setting probably only effects your latency when triggering giga from a keyboard but it's good to know where it is set.






    "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:...
    > This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose. When I record a midi part into computer from an external
    > synth it is slightly delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track it was created with. This is also
    > happening with giga track being fed into the machine via toslink.
    >
    > When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with a mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software
    > for at least a couple of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and drivers) as well as my midi interface
    > (midisport) and uad2 card.
    >
    > WXP
    > Sonar 8
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Neil R
    >
  4. Neil Rutman Guest

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    Just to be more clear - when I record a midi part it is delayed. When I fix
    the delay on the midi track and then render to audio (ext synth) the
    rendered audio is also delayed.

    Neil R

    "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message
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    > This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose.
    > When I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is
    > slightly delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi
    > track it was created with. This is also happening with giga track being
    > fed into the machine via toslink.
    >
    > When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with
    > a mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a
    > couple of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware
    > and drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.
    >
    > WXP
    > Sonar 8
    >
    > Any thoughts?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Neil R
    >
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  5. Steve_Karl Guest

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    Everything used to work?
    Have you changed any settings in Sonar relating to sample rate?

    How long ago did it work for sure?

    Can you system restore to before the problem started?







    "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Just to be more clear - when I record a midi part it is delayed. When I fix the delay on the midi track and then render to audio
    > (ext synth) the rendered audio is also delayed.
    >
    > Neil R
    >
    > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message news:...
    >> This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose. When I record a midi part into computer from an external
    >> synth it is slightly delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track it was created with. This is also
    >> happening with giga track being fed into the machine via toslink.
    >>
    >> When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with a mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or
    >> software for at least a couple of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and drivers) as well as my midi
    >> interface (midisport) and uad2 card.
    >>
    >> WXP
    >> Sonar 8
    >>
    >> Any thoughts?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Neil R
    >>

    >
    >
  6. polymod Guest

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    "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message
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    > This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose.

    When
    > I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is slightly
    > delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track it
    > was created with. This is also happening with giga track being fed into

    the
    > machine via toslink.
    >
    > When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with

    a
    > mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a

    couple
    > of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and
    > drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.


    Can you duplicate this symptom in Reaper?

    Poly
  7. Steve_Karl Guest

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    "polymod" <> wrote in message news:4be86d20$0$22537$...
    >
    > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose.

    > When
    >> I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is slightly
    >> delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track it
    >> was created with. This is also happening with giga track being fed into

    > the
    >> machine via toslink.
    >>
    >> When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything with

    > a
    >> mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a

    > couple
    >> of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and
    >> drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.

    >
    > Can you duplicate this symptom in Reaper?
    >
    > Poly


    Good idea.
  8. polymod Guest

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    "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message
    news:hs9ttk$mju$-september.org...
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    > "polymod" <> wrote in message

    news:4be86d20$0$22537$...
    > >
    > > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message
    > > news:...
    > >> This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help diagnose.

    > > When
    > >> I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is

    slightly
    > >> delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi track

    it
    > >> was created with. This is also happening with giga track being fed into

    > > the
    > >> machine via toslink.
    > >>
    > >> When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything

    with
    > > a
    > >> mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a

    > > couple
    > >> of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and
    > >> drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.

    > >
    > > Can you duplicate this symptom in Reaper?
    > >
    > > Poly

    >
    > Good idea.


    Yea, sometimes the resident computer dummy comes up with a gem<VBG>

    Poly
  9. Neil Rutman Guest

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    I don't have reaper installed but I will try with Vegas and see what
    happens. Great suggestion Poly!! Thanks Steve and Gbo as well.

    Neil R

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    > "Steve_Karl" <> wrote in message
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    >> "polymod" <> wrote in message

    > news:4be86d20$0$22537$...
    >> >
    >> > "Neil Rutman" <> wrote in message
    >> > news:...
    >> >> This is a new issue and was wondering if anyone here can help
    >> >> diagnose.
    >> > When
    >> >> I record a midi part into computer from an external synth it is

    > slightly
    >> >> delayed. Easy fix is to line up the new audio track with the midi
    >> >> track

    > it
    >> >> was created with. This is also happening with giga track being fed
    >> >> into
    >> > the
    >> >> machine via toslink.
    >> >>
    >> >> When I render softsynths this is not an issue. When I record anything

    > with
    >> > a
    >> >> mic this is not an issue. No new hardware or software for at least a
    >> > couple
    >> >> of months. I removed and re-installed my echo layla 24 (hardware and
    >> >> drivers) as well as my midi interface (midisport) and uad2 card.
    >> >
    >> > Can you duplicate this symptom in Reaper?
    >> >
    >> > Poly

    >>
    >> Good idea.

    >
    > Yea, sometimes the resident computer dummy comes up with a gem<VBG>
    >
    > Poly
    >
    >
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