The big upgrade

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  1. TimK Guest

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    So I did it, went from 2.2 to 8.5 Producer.

    It's like moving into a new house and you can't find anything.

    But it has air conditioning.
    And indoor plumbing.

    I'm gonna love this as soon as I get used to it!

    Here's why I'm no threat to anyone who does music for a living (also, sorry
    for the Iphone video).
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtEzVy0KRw

    I look forward to finishing that piece in 8.5.
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  2. Martin Holmes Guest

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    You are gonna love it!

    I like your ambient backing track for the fire. Post it somewhere when
    it's finished.

    Cheers,
    Martin

    On 10-05-29 09:46 AM, TimK wrote:
    > So I did it, went from 2.2 to 8.5 Producer.
    >
    > It's like moving into a new house and you can't find anything.
    >
    > But it has air conditioning.
    > And indoor plumbing.
    >
    > I'm gonna love this as soon as I get used to it!
    >
    > Here's why I'm no threat to anyone who does music for a living (also, sorry
    > for the Iphone video).
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtEzVy0KRw
    >
    > I look forward to finishing that piece in 8.5.
    >
    >
  3. TimK Guest

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    "Martin Holmes" <> wrote in message
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    > You are gonna love it!


    You are so right - I love it and wonder why I waited so long. It's not as
    CPU-greedy and it just sounds better. Not to mention the ability to use
    autotune will make my bad guitar playing sound better.

    > I like your ambient backing track for the fire. Post it somewhere when
    > it's finished.


    Thanks, I will. I wish I'd had a better video camera but I had a job to do,
    even if as a volunteer, so I had to go with the Iphone. It doesn't begin to
    show how hard it hit the trees. I shall probably re-do it as a slide show
    with fire stills and other shots showing the "re-birth" of the vegetation.

    > Cheers,
    > Martin
    >
    > On 10-05-29 09:46 AM, TimK wrote:
    >> So I did it, went from 2.2 to 8.5 Producer.
    >>
    >> It's like moving into a new house and you can't find anything.
    >>
    >> But it has air conditioning.
    >> And indoor plumbing.
    >>
    >> I'm gonna love this as soon as I get used to it!
    >>
    >> Here's why I'm no threat to anyone who does music for a living (also,
    >> sorry
    >> for the Iphone video).
    >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtEzVy0KRw
    >>
    >> I look forward to finishing that piece in 8.5.
    >>
    >>

    >
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    "TimK" <> wrote in message
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    > So I did it, went from 2.2 to 8.5 Producer.
    >
    > It's like moving into a new house and you can't find anything.
    >
    > But it has air conditioning.
    > And indoor plumbing.
    >
    > I'm gonna love this as soon as I get used to it!
    >
    > Here's why I'm no threat to anyone who does music for a living (also,
    > sorry for the Iphone video).
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtEzVy0KRw
    >
    > I look forward to finishing that piece in 8.5.


    Congrats on your upgrade.

    I am thinking about upgrading myself to get the new features.
    Last weekend however, I noticed an annoying event in 8.5 that I have not
    seen in 7.

    On my machine at home I have 7, my friends machine is very similar to mine
    ( I built them both)
    The only differences are that he has a quad-core 9550 where I have a duo
    8600, and he has upgraded to 8.5
    Everything else is the same WinXP SP3 Intel MoBo Video Card, RAM.

    I really like the look of 8.5 but when I use the nudge feature during
    playback the application crashes.
    Other than an occasional stutter the piece continues playing with the nudged
    track in the new position with my machine running 7.

    Has anyone else experienced that phenomenon?

    Papa Homer



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    In news:hu6nqa$24do$ the killer robot "Papa Homer"
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    cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    > I really like the look of 8.5 but when I use the nudge feature during
    > playback the application crashes.
    > Other than an occasional stutter the piece continues playing with the
    > nudged track in the new position with my machine running 7.


    Sounds like the audio engine is struggling to get back on track, but can't
    because the DAW soft is busy trying to keep other balls in the air. I
    dropped out of Sonar at V5, but it seemed to not like anything being
    changed audio wise as playback was happening. A feature I don't miss.

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    "Glennbo" <> wrote in message
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    > In news:hu6nqa$24do$ the killer robot "Papa Homer"
    > <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
    > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> I really like the look of 8.5 but when I use the nudge feature during
    >> playback the application crashes.
    >> Other than an occasional stutter the piece continues playing with the
    >> nudged track in the new position with my machine running 7.

    >
    > Sounds like the audio engine is struggling to get back on track, but can't
    > because the DAW soft is busy trying to keep other balls in the air. I
    > dropped out of Sonar at V5, but it seemed to not like anything being
    > changed audio wise as playback was happening. A feature I don't miss.
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    Thank you for your comment.
    I have read a bit here about Reaper.
    Can one do this in Reaper without the annoyance?

    P.H.



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    In news:hu6qdv$27cp$ the killer robot "Papa Homer"
    <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
    cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...

    > Can one do this in Reaper without the annoyance?


    Can't say how it performs for other people, but for me it lets me do insane
    things while playing back without causing any more than a split second
    splat. This only happens if I do something like move a playing wave file a
    lot, like a full measure or something. Using the "bump" keys (4 and 6 on
    the numeric 10 key pad), I can nudge a playing waveform forward or
    backward, and only produce single pops *if* I happen to catch the wave at
    one of it's up or down extremities. Most the time, I get no artifact.

    The eval download is the full uncrippled program. You should give it a try
    if for nothing else, to use as a 2nd point of reference on your hardware.

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    "Glennbo" <> wrote in message
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    > In news:hu6qdv$27cp$ the killer robot "Papa Homer"
    > <> grabbed the controls of the spaceship
    > cakewalk.audio and pressed these buttons...
    >
    >> Can one do this in Reaper without the annoyance?

    >
    > Can't say how it performs for other people, but for me it lets me do
    > insane
    > things while playing back without causing any more than a split second
    > splat. This only happens if I do something like move a playing wave file
    > a
    > lot, like a full measure or something. Using the "bump" keys (4 and 6 on
    > the numeric 10 key pad), I can nudge a playing waveform forward or
    > backward, and only produce single pops *if* I happen to catch the wave at
    > one of it's up or down extremities. Most the time, I get no artifact.
    >
    > The eval download is the full uncrippled program. You should give it a
    > try
    > if for nothing else, to use as a 2nd point of reference on your hardware.
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    Thanks!
    Am I correct to assume I can find it here?
    www.reaper.fm/download.php
    (I am at work and the site is blocked from my PC)
    P.H.



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    In news:hu6t9t$2avb$ the killer robot "Papa Homer"
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    > Am I correct to assume I can find it here?
    > www.reaper.fm/download.php
    > (I am at work and the site is blocked from my PC)


    Yup, and the direct link to the current Windows 32 installer is here.

    http://www.reaper.fm/files/3.x/reaper352-install.exe

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    >> Am I correct to assume I can find it here?
    >> www.reaper.fm/download.php
    >> (I am at work and the site is blocked from my PC)

    >
    > Yup, and the direct link to the current Windows 32 installer is here.
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    > http://www.reaper.fm/files/3.x/reaper352-install.exe
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    Thanks again, I can't wait to get home and try this out!
    (The cached pages in google look fantastic)



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    It's a nice app IMO. If you're 'old skool' and hardware consoles,
    outboard gear routing etc. make sense to you, then Reaper will too once
    you forget how other programs work. At least, it made good sense for me
    from that perspective. It feels like an actual hardware flow to me but
    with none of the limitations of actual hardware -- full sends out and
    back, blended sends ('one click out insert'), pre and post everything,
    as many as your PC can handle. And midi follows almost the same routing
    that audio does.

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    > Thanks again, I can't wait to get home and try this out!
    > (The cached pages in google look fantastic)
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    "Papa Homer" <> wrote in message
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    > I really like the look of 8.5 but when I use the nudge feature during
    > playback the application crashes.
    > Other than an occasional stutter the piece continues playing with the
    > nudged track in the new position with my machine running 7.
    >
    > Has anyone else experienced that phenomenon?


    I haven't experienced it, and I use nudge quite a bit with playback going,
    primarily in increments of 1 ms, 5 ms, or 10 ms. Occasionally it does cause
    a dropout, but it hasn't yet crashed on me (in any version of SONAR, no less
    8.5.3, which is the latest update level on 8.5). FWIW, my system is SONAR
    8.5.3 x64 running on Windows 7 Professional x64, with the hardware being an
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 with 4 GB of RAM.

    Rick

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    "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message
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    > It's a nice app IMO. If you're 'old skool' and hardware consoles,
    > outboard gear routing etc. make sense to you, then Reaper will too once
    > you forget how other programs work. At least, it made good sense for me
    > from that perspective. It feels like an actual hardware flow to me but
    > with none of the limitations of actual hardware -- full sends out and
    > back, blended sends ('one click out insert'), pre and post everything, as
    > many as your PC can handle. And midi follows almost the same routing that
    > audio does.
    >
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    > Sue Morton
    >
    >
    > "Papa Homer" <> wrote in message
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    >> Thanks again, I can't wait to get home and try this out!
    >> (The cached pages in google look fantastic)

    >


    Thank you Sue.
    I have a little experience with hardware and so should feel right at home.
    Indeed, my daughter keeps trying to proselytize me into converting to Native
    Instruments.
    My old skool stuff includes a Kurzweil K2500RS, Korg 05 r/w, Yamaha Vl-70m,
    and a Roland Super JV 1080.
    I love those synths!
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    "Rick Paul" <> wrote in message
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    > "Papa Homer" <> wrote in message
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    >> I really like the look of 8.5 but when I use the nudge feature during
    >> playback the application crashes.
    >> Other than an occasional stutter the piece continues playing with the
    >> nudged track in the new position with my machine running 7.
    >>
    >> Has anyone else experienced that phenomenon?

    >
    > I haven't experienced it, and I use nudge quite a bit with playback going,
    > primarily in increments of 1 ms, 5 ms, or 10 ms. Occasionally it does
    > cause a dropout, but it hasn't yet crashed on me (in any version of SONAR,
    > no less 8.5.3, which is the latest update level on 8.5). FWIW, my system
    > is SONAR 8.5.3 x64 running on Windows 7 Professional x64, with the
    > hardware being an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 with 4 GB of RAM.
    >
    > Rick
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    Thanks Rick,
    I'll take a look at the settings for the nudge on my friend's 8.5
    My Sonar7 is set to 1 ms, 5 ms, and 10 ms, and It doesn't cause any crashes,
    ever.
    Do you think that some difference in the ASIO buffer settings between the
    two machines could cause something like that?
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    "Papa Homer Brinlee" <> wrote in message
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    > My Sonar7 is set to 1 ms, 5 ms, and 10 ms, and It doesn't cause any
    > crashes,
    > ever.
    > Do you think that some difference in the ASIO buffer settings between the
    > two machines could cause something like that?


    I wouldn't think it should cause crashes, but obviously something has to be
    flaky somewhere in there if it is crashing. Someone would have to look at
    the crash dumps to have a better clue as to what appears to be crashing.
    Depending on what else is going on, it could be anything from a plug-in to
    some kind of drivers issues to something in SONAR itself.

    Rick

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