Time signatures in Cubase

Discussion in 'alt.steinberg.cubase' started by _flare_, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. _flare_ Guest

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    Hi,

    I have a question about time signatures in Cubase SX 3. When I'm
    writing a song, I don't write it in linear order. I usually

    write different parts at different places in the project window and
    then combine then at the end.

    Now when I try to change the time signature in the first part, the
    time signatures changes in the later parts shifts. The

    reason for this is that the position information of the parts is based
    on the number of beats (i.e. the number of quarter

    beats from the beginning of the song) rather than the number of bars
    from the beginning of the song.

    For example suppose that you create a part at the beginning of the
    10th bar in a 4/4 time signature and change the time

    signature to 5/4 after 2 bars (at the beginning of the 12th bar). Now
    this means that there are 40 quarter beats from the

    beginning of the song to the beginning of the part. Now if you change
    the time signature at the beginning of the 7th bar to

    3/4, the beginning of the part moves to the beginning of the 11th bar
    and so the time signature changes from that point

    shifts backwards. This causes a lot of problems because I use
    signature changes a lot in my songs

    My questions are the following:

    1) Is there still a similar problem in later versions of Cubase?
    2) I'm wondering if there is any way to divide the whole project into
    big parts in such a way that changes in one part

    doesn't effect the other parts (something like, more than 1 starting
    point in the project)
    3) Any other suggestions, comments?

    Thanks.

    Ali
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  2. nickm Guest

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    Investigate the Master Track. You can section your songs and set different
    tempos/time signatures at different parts of the song
  3. Jos Geluk Guest

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    _flare_ schreef:

    > I have a question about time signatures in Cubase SX 3. When I'm
    > writing a song, I don't write it in linear order. I usually
    > write different parts at different places in the project window and
    > then combine then at the end.
    > Now when I try to change the time signature in the first part, the
    > time signatures changes in the later parts shifts. The
    > reason for this is that the position information of the parts is based
    > on the number of beats (i.e. the number of quarter
    > beats from the beginning of the song) rather than the number of bars
    > from the beginning of the song.


    <snip>

    > My questions are the following:
    >
    > 1) Is there still a similar problem in later versions of Cubase?
    > 2) I'm wondering if there is any way to divide the whole project into
    > big parts in such a way that changes in one part
    > doesn't effect the other parts (something like, more than 1 starting
    > point in the project)
    > 3) Any other suggestions, comments?


    With respect, but I think this is the way it is supposed to work and I
    don't see the problem in it. It may take getting used to it though. The
    point is that not the number of bars is constant, but the number of
    beats. Keep that in mind when moving parts, or inserting or deleting time.
    And yes, there is the Master track, but I wouldn't recommend playing
    with that if the above methods still gives you headaches :).

    To be specific, it works the same way in Cubase 5.

    Jos.

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    Ardis Park Music
    www.ardispark.nl
  4. Jos Geluk Guest

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    _flare_ schreef:

    > I have a question about time signatures in Cubase SX 3. When I'm
    > writing a song, I don't write it in linear order. I usually
    > write different parts at different places in the project window and
    > then combine then at the end.
    > Now when I try to change the time signature in the first part, the
    > time signatures changes in the later parts shifts. The
    > reason for this is that the position information of the parts is based
    > on the number of beats (i.e. the number of quarter
    > beats from the beginning of the song) rather than the number of bars
    > from the beginning of the song.


    <snip>

    > My questions are the following:
    >
    > 1) Is there still a similar problem in later versions of Cubase?
    > 2) I'm wondering if there is any way to divide the whole project into
    > big parts in such a way that changes in one part
    > doesn't effect the other parts (something like, more than 1 starting
    > point in the project)
    > 3) Any other suggestions, comments?


    With respect, but I think this is the way it is supposed to work and I
    don't see the problem in it. It may take getting used to it though. The
    point is that not the number of bars is constant, but the number of
    beats. Keep that in mind when moving parts, or inserting or deleting time.
    And yes, there is the Master track, but I wouldn't recommend playing
    with that if the above methods still gives you headaches :).

    To be specific, it works the same way in Cubase 5.

    Jos.

    --
    Ardis Park Music
    www.ardispark.nl
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