Voce DMI-64 (or V3) and Midi Drawbar-help!

Discussion in 'alt.music.synth' started by mhanko, Dec 30, 2005.

  1. mhanko Guest

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    I have a Voce DMI-64. I've recently acquired a Voce Midi Drawbar (older
    model)

    I can get it to accept midi messages from Volume, Overdrive, and
    percussion/vib/chorus settings, but not from keyclick, hum, and more
    importantly the drawbars themselves.
    Furthermore these changes are only effective in omni mode. I pull the
    drawbars, the midi activity (COM) light shows activity, but no change
    is apparent.

    I am aware of the DMI settings at which drawbar settings are and are
    not available internally.

    I have contacted Voce (DR music) to no avail. not supported.

    The Midi Drawbar manual on the voceinc site is for a later model and
    only addresses use with a V3. The DMI manual does not address use with
    a Midi Drawbar at all.

    anyway, I tried to make all changes pertinent to drawbar use, but no
    result.

    Do I really need to get a V3? Is the operation more straightforward
    with that? Seems there's some setting on the DMI that I am missing,
    although I've gone through all parameters a few times already.

    FINALLY---There's a switch on the back that says mode. Unit does not
    specify the difference.
    ??

    Thanks!
    mike
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  2. Rick Massey Guest

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    The DMI 64 came out before the drawbar units. The drawbar units are
    specifically designed to work with the V3. They didn't do any retr support
    for the DMI module. It sucks.
    "mhanko" <> wrote in message
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    >I have a Voce DMI-64. I've recently acquired a Voce Midi Drawbar (older
    > model)
    >
    > I can get it to accept midi messages from Volume, Overdrive, and
    > percussion/vib/chorus settings, but not from keyclick, hum, and more
    > importantly the drawbars themselves.
    > Furthermore these changes are only effective in omni mode. I pull the
    > drawbars, the midi activity (COM) light shows activity, but no change
    > is apparent.
    >
    > I am aware of the DMI settings at which drawbar settings are and are
    > not available internally.
    >
    > I have contacted Voce (DR music) to no avail. not supported.
    >
    > The Midi Drawbar manual on the voceinc site is for a later model and
    > only addresses use with a V3. The DMI manual does not address use with
    > a Midi Drawbar at all.
    >
    > anyway, I tried to make all changes pertinent to drawbar use, but no
    > result.
    >
    > Do I really need to get a V3? Is the operation more straightforward
    > with that? Seems there's some setting on the DMI that I am missing,
    > although I've gone through all parameters a few times already.
    >
    > FINALLY---There's a switch on the back that says mode. Unit does not
    > specify the difference.
    > ??
    >
    > Thanks!
    > mike
    >
  3. mhanko Guest

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    OK...I got it working

    Turns out the drawbar unit I have happens to be the one (of 3!) models
    that works with the DMI
    I came across a yahoo group (Clonewheel Support Group) and posted a
    message. Turns out one of the moderators is Dave Amels from the
    original Voce Company. He was very helpful and friendly about it.

    Anyway, the drawbar unit HAS to be the one with 3 midi jacks. (merge
    in, aux in , and out) The Aux In is critical because there has to be a
    loop between the DMI and the Drawbar, (keyboard midi out to Drawbar
    merge in, Drawbar out to DMI in, DMI out to Drawbar aux in) Two of 3
    versions do not have this Aux In, including the latest model. I guess
    it might be possible to use a merge box to achieve this on the other
    models...not sure, though.

    There is a toggle switch on the back of the Drawbar labeled "mode" The
    two positions (unmarked!!) are "DMI mode" and "Non-DMI mode". DMI mode
    is toward the center of the unit. (at least on mine!)

    Drawbars are only effective on DMI presets that incorporate the
    programmable waveforms (56-63) in the DMI, set in parameter 3 (waveform
    select)

    Anyway, there's a little more to it, but that's the bottom line. It's
    not a myth!! It actually does work!
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