Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

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  1. Benjamin Goldman Guest

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    My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog soft
    synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I need to use
    a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch I'm using
    (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.

    Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've programmed
    into volume ramps?

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    Ben
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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    Benjamin Goldman wrote:

    > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    > soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I need
    > to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch I'm using
    > (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    >
    > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    > programmed into volume ramps?


    Hmmmm.... it seems the VA-1 does interpret velocity data - just not
    very expressivo as I would have expected. None the less, it does
    somethin.

    Still - I'd like to know about the volume mapping.

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    Ben
  3. Benjamin Goldman Guest

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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    Benjamin Goldman wrote:

    > Benjamin Goldman wrote:
    >
    > > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    > > soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I
    > > need to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch
    > > I'm using (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    > >
    > > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    > > programmed into volume ramps?

    >
    > Hmmmm.... it seems the VA-1 does interpret velocity data - just not
    > very expressivo as I would have expected. None the less, it does
    > somethin.
    >
    > Still - I'd like to know about the volume mapping.


    ACTUALLY, some patches are VERY expressivo in dealing with velocity
    data.

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    Cheers,
    Ben
  4. Steve Ardcorr Guest

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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    I don't know about volume mapping but if your keyboard
    can't interpret velocity then it's really NOT the cats pajamas.
    But I'm guessing your using different sounds to what you first heard so
    they're not going to sound the same.

    Steve


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    >> Benjamin Goldman wrote:
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    >> > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    >> > soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I
    >> > need to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch
    >> > I'm using (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    >> >
    >> > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    >> > programmed into volume ramps?

    >>
    >> Hmmmm.... it seems the VA-1 does interpret velocity data - just not
    >> very expressivo as I would have expected. None the less, it does
    >> somethin.
    >>
    >> Still - I'd like to know about the volume mapping.

    >
    > ACTUALLY, some patches are VERY expressivo in dealing with velocity
    > data.
    >
    > --
    > Cheers,
    > Ben




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  5. Benjamin Goldman Guest

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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    Steve Ardcorr wrote:

    > I don't know about volume mapping but if your keyboard
    > can't interpret velocity then it's really NOT the cats pajamas.
    > But I'm guessing your using different sounds to what you first heard
    > so they're not going to sound the same.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >
    > "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message
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    > > Benjamin Goldman wrote:
    > >
    > > > Benjamin Goldman wrote:
    > > >
    > >>> My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    > >>> soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I
    > >>> need to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch
    > >>> I'm using (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    > > > >
    > >>> Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    > >>> programmed into volume ramps?
    > > >
    > > > Hmmmm.... it seems the VA-1 does interpret velocity data - just
    > > > not very expressivo as I would have expected. None the less, it
    > > > does somethin.
    > > >
    > > > Still - I'd like to know about the volume mapping.

    > >
    > > ACTUALLY, some patches are VERY expressivo in dealing with velocity
    > > data.
    > >
    > > -- Cheers,
    > > Ben

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    You're way off.
    Do you use SONAR? Do you use the VA-1?

    The synthesizer I was talking about is a soft synth. My main keyboard
    is a Roland A-90ex - that's worth the cat's whole wardrobe, cha cha.

    Go fish.
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    Ben
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    "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message
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    > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog soft
    > synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I need to use
    > a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch I'm using
    > (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    >
    > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've programmed
    > into volume ramps?
    >
    > --
    > Long live analog,
    > Ben


    You might try using volume envelopes. I often employ those on both the MIDI
    and Audio Tracks. If you want to REmap previously programmed controllers you
    might try the Cakewalk MIDI Event Filter. Dunno if that will work exactly
    for that but I suppose it's worth a look.


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    SoftShell wrote:

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    > "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message
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    > > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    > > soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I
    > > need to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch
    > > I'm using (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    > >
    > > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    > > programmed into volume ramps?
    > >
    > > -- Long live analog,
    > > Ben

    >
    > You might try using volume envelopes. I often employ those on both
    > the MIDI and Audio Tracks. If you want to REmap previously programmed
    > controllers you might try the Cakewalk MIDI Event Filter. Dunno if
    > that will work exactly for that but I suppose it's worth a look.


    Thanks.

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    Cheers,
    Ben
  8. Steve Ardcorr Guest

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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    Sorry meant your synth not your keyboard.
    Yes I use Sonar and no, I've never heard of VA-1.
    I got confused since you started by saying the VA-1 didn't
    interpret velocity data and then it did.



    "Steve Ardcorr" <> wrote in message
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    >I don't know about volume mapping but if your keyboard
    > can't interpret velocity then it's really NOT the cats pajamas.
    > But I'm guessing your using different sounds to what you first heard so
    > they're not going to sound the same.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >
    > "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message
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    >> Benjamin Goldman wrote:
    >>
    >>> Benjamin Goldman wrote:
    >>>
    >>> > My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog
    >>> > soft synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I
    >>> > need to use a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch
    >>> > I'm using (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    >>> >
    >>> > Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've
    >>> > programmed into volume ramps?
    >>>
    >>> Hmmmm.... it seems the VA-1 does interpret velocity data - just not
    >>> very expressivo as I would have expected. None the less, it does
    >>> somethin.
    >>>
    >>> Still - I'd like to know about the volume mapping.

    >>
    >> ACTUALLY, some patches are VERY expressivo in dealing with velocity
    >> data.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Cheers,
    >> Ben

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    In addition to what Steve suggested (I also don't recall if the MIDI event
    filter will do that), I seem to remember using a MIDI plug-in (from
    something like 10crazy or tencrazy?) that could map one controller type to
    another. However, I don't recall if it could map velocity to volume. I
    know I did use it to map aftertouch to another continuous controller and/or
    vice-versa. It's been awhile since I've used that, and, just thinking about
    it now, I'm not even sure I have the MFX loaded on my system since 32-bit
    MFXes wouldn't be supported on SONAR x64, and I'm not sure if I ever got the
    MFX wrapper (from that person who did the DirectX/DXi wrapper I've used
    successfully) to work -- I recall for certain that I couldn't get it to work
    with JMT Orchestrator -- it seemed to map it, but I couldn't make it do what
    it's supposed to do.

    Rick
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    "SoftShell" <> wrote in message
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    > "Benjamin Goldman" <> wrote in message
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    >> My trouble is that I'mprogramming my MIDI with the Ultimate Analog soft
    >> synth. That synth is totally the cat's pajamas! Anyway, I need to use
    >> a Scale VOLUME function if at all posible. The patch I'm using
    >> (perhaps the whole synth) doesn't respond to velocity.
    >>
    >> Is there a CAL or some way I can map the velocity ramps I've programmed
    >> into volume ramps?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Long live analog,
    >> Ben

    >
    > You might try using volume envelopes. I often employ those on both the
    > MIDI and Audio Tracks. If you want to REmap previously programmed
    > controllers you might try the Cakewalk MIDI Event Filter. Dunno if that
    > will work exactly for that but I suppose it's worth a look.
    >
    >
    > --
    > _____________________
    >
    > Steve Wilson
    >
    >
    >
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  10. Benjamin Goldman Guest

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    Re: Wanted: Scale Volume instead of Scale Velocity

    Steve Ardcorr wrote:

    > Sorry meant your synth not your keyboard.
    > Yes I use Sonar and no, I've never heard of VA-1.
    > I got confused since you started by saying the VA-1 didn't
    > interpret velocity data and then it did.
    >
    >
    >


    Ah.

    That VA-1 is awesome. That is, of course, if you like
    analogue/subtractive synthesis. It costed like ten bucks. I think
    Russ gave us the heads up on that deal . . . and what a deal.

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    Ben
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