Hey, Just bought a Yamaha Motif ES8 and thus far I have not been able to change banks on it from Sonar, only patches. If I manually change the bank then I can select the patch from within Sonar, but Sonar won't change the bank. I suspect the problem is with the Motif and not with Sonar, but I've read the manual several times through and can't figure this one out. Can anyone think of something I missed? The obvious stuff: "BankSelect" on the Motif is set to "on" I downloaded the instrument definition file from the internet, but I double checked the MSB and LSB against the manual and it looks good. I also have the Motif Rack which uses the same MSB & LSB numbers and I have no problem changing the banks on it. I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, patch 100, etc). It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone? Thanks, Matt Koskenmaki
"Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:qZwkf.26494$... > > I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define Instruments > and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, patch 100, etc). > Is the Motif in Voice mode or Multi mode (or either) when you're having the problem?
Either. Both. There's also a "master" mode for using it as a keyboard controller, same thing.... "Ricky Hunt" <> wrote in message news:jOzkf.601090$_o.271080@attbi_s71... > "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message > news:qZwkf.26494$... >> >> I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define >> Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, patch >> 100, etc). >> > > Is the Motif in Voice mode or Multi mode (or either) when you're having > the problem? >
Hey Matt, I've got an S90, but I always just use a template in Seq. Play mode. You can probably get the answers you need here: http://www.sninety.com/forums/index.php?Cat=1,3 It's also a motif forum. Steve "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:NPFkf.26569$... > Either. Both. There's also a "master" mode for using it as a keyboard controller, same thing.... > > "Ricky Hunt" <> wrote in message news:jOzkf.601090$_o.271080@attbi_s71... >> "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:qZwkf.26494$... >>> >>> I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller >>> 32, patch 100, etc). >>> >> >> Is the Motif in Voice mode or Multi mode (or either) when you're having the problem? >> > >
Did you try http://www.motifator.com/ ? -- Sue Morton "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:qZwkf.26494$... > Hey, > > Just bought a Yamaha Motif ES8 and thus far I have not been able to change > banks on it from Sonar, only patches. If I manually change the bank then > I can select the patch from within Sonar, but Sonar won't change the bank. > I suspect the problem is with the Motif and not with Sonar, but I've read > the manual several times through and can't figure this one out. Can > anyone think of something I missed? The obvious stuff: > > "BankSelect" on the Motif is set to "on" > > I downloaded the instrument definition file from the internet, but I > double checked the MSB and LSB against the manual and it looks good. I > also have the Motif Rack which uses the same MSB & LSB numbers and I have > no problem changing the banks on it. > > I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define Instruments > and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, patch 100, etc). > > It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone? > > Thanks, > > Matt Koskenmaki >
Thank you both I will try the forums... that was going to be my next question. I had been looking but for some reason didn't find these two. Matt "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:ILIkf.30459$... > Did you try http://www.motifator.com/ ? > -- > Sue Morton > > "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message > news:qZwkf.26494$... >> Hey, >> >> Just bought a Yamaha Motif ES8 and thus far I have not been able to >> change banks on it from Sonar, only patches. If I manually change the >> bank then I can select the patch from within Sonar, but Sonar won't >> change the bank. I suspect the problem is with the Motif and not with >> Sonar, but I've read the manual several times through and can't figure >> this one out. Can anyone think of something I missed? The obvious >> stuff: >> >> "BankSelect" on the Motif is set to "on" >> >> I downloaded the instrument definition file from the internet, but I >> double checked the MSB and LSB against the manual and it looks good. I >> also have the Motif Rack which uses the same MSB & LSB numbers and I have >> no problem changing the banks on it. >> >> I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define >> Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, patch >> 100, etc). >> >> It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt Koskenmaki >> > >
Matt, If you ever find an answer to this please let me what it is and know how you're using it. I've been using my S90 in master mode with a "mix" template for each song, but have been curious about PG and Bank for a long time. Reading the manual never got me anywhere with it and I can't remember what I found at the forum first time I asked. Thank you, Steve "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:hFJkf.36044$... > Thank you both I will try the forums... that was going to be my next question. I had been looking but for some reason didn't > find these two. > > Matt > > > "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message news:ILIkf.30459$... >> Did you try http://www.motifator.com/ ? >> -- >> Sue Morton >> >> "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:qZwkf.26494$... >>> Hey, >>> >>> Just bought a Yamaha Motif ES8 and thus far I have not been able to change banks on it from Sonar, only patches. If I manually >>> change the bank then I can select the patch from within Sonar, but Sonar won't change the bank. I suspect the problem is with >>> the Motif and not with Sonar, but I've read the manual several times through and can't figure this one out. Can anyone think of >>> something I missed? The obvious stuff: >>> >>> "BankSelect" on the Motif is set to "on" >>> >>> I downloaded the instrument definition file from the internet, but I double checked the MSB and LSB against the manual and it >>> looks good. I also have the Motif Rack which uses the same MSB & LSB numbers and I have no problem changing the banks on it. >>> >>> I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller >>> 32, patch 100, etc). >>> >>> It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Matt Koskenmaki >>> >> >> > >
So... the ES forum was helpful, and I discovered the problem was on Sonar's end. By much trial and error I was able to rule out any cables, the Yamaha ES8, and the midi interfaces. Back to the Sonar forum with a new problem..... Sonar won't send bank changes to any instrument on port 1 (the first instrument listed in the MIDI devices window). It doesn't matter what is physically connected to port 1 on the midi interface, only what Sonar thinks of as port 1. (That is, if I move devices up or down in the list, Sonar will not send bank changes to whatever is listed first, no matter where it is physically connected). I've found an inelegant work-around by putting my Roland VK7 first on the list, which doesn't need bank changes. Has anyone heard of this? I'm stumped.... This is a fresh install of Sonar 5.01 on a fresh install of Windows XP on a brand new computer. Thanks! Matt Koskenmaki By the way, Steve, now that the ES8 is working I'm just using it in Master mode as a non-multi-timbral instrument. That way I can use the sliders and knobs to control Sonar, it seems to be the easiest for me.... "Steve Karl" <> wrote in message news:br_lf.4047$Kg5.2919@trndny06... > Matt, > > If you ever find an answer to this please let me what it is and know how > you're using it. > I've been using my S90 in master mode with a "mix" template for each song, > but have been curious about PG and Bank for a long time. > Reading the manual never got me anywhere with it and I can't remember what > I found at the forum first time I asked. > > Thank you, > > Steve > > > > > > "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message > news:hFJkf.36044$... >> Thank you both I will try the forums... that was going to be my next >> question. I had been looking but for some reason didn't find these two. >> >> Matt >> >> >> "Sue Morton" <> wrote in message >> news:ILIkf.30459$... >>> Did you try http://www.motifator.com/ ? >>> -- >>> Sue Morton >>> >>> "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message >>> news:qZwkf.26494$... >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>> Just bought a Yamaha Motif ES8 and thus far I have not been able to >>>> change banks on it from Sonar, only patches. If I manually change the >>>> bank then I can select the patch from within Sonar, but Sonar won't >>>> change the bank. I suspect the problem is with the Motif and not with >>>> Sonar, but I've read the manual several times through and can't figure >>>> this one out. Can anyone think of something I missed? The obvious >>>> stuff: >>>> >>>> "BankSelect" on the Motif is set to "on" >>>> >>>> I downloaded the instrument definition file from the internet, but I >>>> double checked the MSB and LSB against the manual and it looks good. I >>>> also have the Motif Rack which uses the same MSB & LSB numbers and I >>>> have no problem changing the banks on it. >>>> >>>> I tried all of the Bank Select methods from within the "Define >>>> Instruments and Names" screen (normal, controller 0, controller 32, >>>> patch 100, etc). >>>> >>>> It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Matt Koskenmaki >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
I still have to figure out how to assign the 4 sliders to specific controllers <g> Oh well ... it's on my list! Steve "Matt Koskenmaki" <> wrote in message news:A00mf.32928$... > By the way, Steve, now that the ES8 is working I'm just using it in Master mode as a non-multi-timbral instrument. That way I can > use the sliders and knobs to control Sonar, it seems to be the easiest for me.... >
Matt Koskenmaki wrote: > Sonar won't send bank changes to any instrument on port 1 (the first > instrument listed in the MIDI devices window). It doesn't matter what is > physically connected to port 1 on the midi interface, only what Sonar thinks > of as port 1. (That is, if I move devices up or down in the list, Sonar > will not send bank changes to whatever is listed first, no matter where it > is physically connected). I've found an inelegant work-around by putting my > Roland VK7 first on the list, which doesn't need bank changes. Has anyone > heard of this? I'm stumped.... Have you tested this with Sonar 4 or other earlier version? I don't recall having any problems with bank changes with my QS8, and I always set it up as the first device. If the problem only exists in Sonar 5 (which I'll not be able to test for a few days) then has it been reported to Cakewalk? -- Gary R. Hook ________________________________________________________________________ Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit
