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Greetings. I saw this post somewhere from a developer for Korg who created a leslie that he claims is extremely close to the Neo Ventilator.
The Korg he used was a Kronos. Below is what he said. Can anyone translate the Kronos leslie paramaters to a Kross2 leslie so we all can have
a great internal leslie? Any ideas appreciated
HERE IS HIS POST:
Hi all. This is my first post in a long time on this forum. I'm a sound designer/programmer/keyboard tech and I've done factory programs for many Korg products including the M3 Xpanded, Raidas, and the King Korg.
The subject of this post is how to get (IMO) a "better" Leslie sound from the Kronos CX-3 engine. The 2.11 update included the "re-designed" CX-3
with an improved amp and speaker simulation which took it way beyond what the original CX-3 was. However, anyone who has tried running a CX-3 program out one of the assignable outs and into a Neo Instruments Ventilator will tell you that the Ventilator really is the "shizzle" and the CX-3's own Leslie falls, well, a bit short of that.
So I sat down with the goal of improving the Leslie sound using just the Kronos' CX-3 engine, to the point where I could consider not using the Ventilator anymore. And it's not hard to do.
Basically, it's a simple matter of adding the Rotary Speaker OD (effect #075) as an insert effect to the CX3 program. This gives you, technically, "two Leslies", running the CX-3's rotary into the Rotary Speaker OD effect. There are those who might tell you this can introduce phase cancellation or distortion artifacts - personally I don't care. All I know is it does improve the sound.
Here's what you do:
1. Make sure the CX-3 program is using Amp Type 1, and that the speaker is set to "Custom".
2. Place the Rotary Speaker OD effect (#075) into the first Insert FX slot (IFX1)
3. Set the CX-3 program's routing to IFX1
4. Set the Rotary OD's parameters like this:
Switch - Toggle
Wet/Dry balance - between 50:50 and 60:40.
Mic Distance - 30-45
Mic spread - 100
Horn intensity - 0.80
Rotor intensity - 0.75
5. Speed - can be either slow or fast (it should be the same as the CX-3's rotary speed). Now when you throw the Mod lever forward it will change the speed on "both" rotary speakers.
Disclaimer: if the CX-3's rotary is set to fast and the Rptary Speaker OD's speed is set to fast, you will hear the Insert effect rotary play a bit of "catch up" when you exit the CX-3 program and then re-select it from another program. This was the case with the M3 (which featured the same Rotary Speaker OD effect) - it always took a tiny bit of time to "engage". If both the CX-3 rotary and the insert effect rotary are set to slow speed, you won't really hear this "catching-up" effect.
That's it. Now while playing the CX-3 sound, toggle the Insert FX 1 on and off. You should be able to clearly hear the difference. I know I do…it adds that "whistling shimmer" and "horn/rotor separation" that is characteristic of the Ventilator (and a real Leslie 122).
The Korg he used was a Kronos. Below is what he said. Can anyone translate the Kronos leslie paramaters to a Kross2 leslie so we all can have
a great internal leslie? Any ideas appreciated
HERE IS HIS POST:
Hi all. This is my first post in a long time on this forum. I'm a sound designer/programmer/keyboard tech and I've done factory programs for many Korg products including the M3 Xpanded, Raidas, and the King Korg.
The subject of this post is how to get (IMO) a "better" Leslie sound from the Kronos CX-3 engine. The 2.11 update included the "re-designed" CX-3
with an improved amp and speaker simulation which took it way beyond what the original CX-3 was. However, anyone who has tried running a CX-3 program out one of the assignable outs and into a Neo Instruments Ventilator will tell you that the Ventilator really is the "shizzle" and the CX-3's own Leslie falls, well, a bit short of that.
So I sat down with the goal of improving the Leslie sound using just the Kronos' CX-3 engine, to the point where I could consider not using the Ventilator anymore. And it's not hard to do.
Basically, it's a simple matter of adding the Rotary Speaker OD (effect #075) as an insert effect to the CX3 program. This gives you, technically, "two Leslies", running the CX-3's rotary into the Rotary Speaker OD effect. There are those who might tell you this can introduce phase cancellation or distortion artifacts - personally I don't care. All I know is it does improve the sound.
Here's what you do:
1. Make sure the CX-3 program is using Amp Type 1, and that the speaker is set to "Custom".
2. Place the Rotary Speaker OD effect (#075) into the first Insert FX slot (IFX1)
3. Set the CX-3 program's routing to IFX1
4. Set the Rotary OD's parameters like this:
Switch - Toggle
Wet/Dry balance - between 50:50 and 60:40.
Mic Distance - 30-45
Mic spread - 100
Horn intensity - 0.80
Rotor intensity - 0.75
5. Speed - can be either slow or fast (it should be the same as the CX-3's rotary speed). Now when you throw the Mod lever forward it will change the speed on "both" rotary speakers.
Disclaimer: if the CX-3's rotary is set to fast and the Rptary Speaker OD's speed is set to fast, you will hear the Insert effect rotary play a bit of "catch up" when you exit the CX-3 program and then re-select it from another program. This was the case with the M3 (which featured the same Rotary Speaker OD effect) - it always took a tiny bit of time to "engage". If both the CX-3 rotary and the insert effect rotary are set to slow speed, you won't really hear this "catching-up" effect.
That's it. Now while playing the CX-3 sound, toggle the Insert FX 1 on and off. You should be able to clearly hear the difference. I know I do…it adds that "whistling shimmer" and "horn/rotor separation" that is characteristic of the Ventilator (and a real Leslie 122).