AI Music in Crisis
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happyrat1
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Not a fun topic.
I used to think I'd like to put my music out there. Anymore, I don't have much desire to. AI seems to be taking over, the lines of protected property seem to be skewing away from those who are actually writing and performing.
FWIW, I have never been a fan of AI music and find what I have heard of it to be somewhat irritating to listen to for any length of time. But it seems to be the wave of the future.
My personal outlook is that music is likely to become a lot like what the auto industry has become in the US. Gradually, we've gone from interesting and unique cars to cars that all pretty much look the same, little variation, and the unique things about some of those old models that you really liked, sorry, no longer available.
I used to think I'd like to put my music out there. Anymore, I don't have much desire to. AI seems to be taking over, the lines of protected property seem to be skewing away from those who are actually writing and performing.
FWIW, I have never been a fan of AI music and find what I have heard of it to be somewhat irritating to listen to for any length of time. But it seems to be the wave of the future.
My personal outlook is that music is likely to become a lot like what the auto industry has become in the US. Gradually, we've gone from interesting and unique cars to cars that all pretty much look the same, little variation, and the unique things about some of those old models that you really liked, sorry, no longer available.
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I disagree. People will hear the flaws in it, just like you did, and get tired of it real quick. People are already getting tired of all the fake, nonsensical BS posted everywhere in Facebook by AI and content creators.
I hope you are right!! I think one of my big fears in that regard is that people will slowly become so accustomed to it that they'll think that's "normal" and not want to hear actual live music played by actual live musicians anymore.
One thing I discovered quite a while ago is that I do NOT like the quantize feature that many DAW's have. There is an "imperfection" or "complexity" that happens when people are playing expressively that is just totally wiped out when quantized perfectly. It's like the soul of it is ripped out and replaced with a robot version, expressionless and lifeless.
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I've already seen audiences more interested in live music here in Southern California. That'll never go away - people need and want the human connection.
well, yeah ... I mean, that's been the case since the 1980s.
happyrat1
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A 2-word prompt into Suno. "Gerbil Apocalypse"
It even sounds like something Weird Al would do.
Don't know about you guys, but I'm dropping bricks into my undies nowdays.
And here's something more AC/DC
It gives a twofer for every prompt.
It even sounds like something Weird Al would do.
Don't know about you guys, but I'm dropping bricks into my undies nowdays.
And here's something more AC/DC
It gives a twofer for every prompt.
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sorry, but if you type "an 80s funk song" into Sumo, and you compare what it comes up, with , say, "Get Down on It" by Kool and the Gang, there's no comparison.
I don't know that I would agree that it can't do anything original. I have to admit that I'm not at all experienced in AI but my adult son was playing around with it a while back. He entered a few details, such as my name and the fact that I've had quite a bit of success in repairing various electronic items.
Within seconds, it generated a song in A Capella mode with 4-part harmony. Then he got it to do a different tune in Trad Jazz style, using the same lyrics and this time it was a female vocalist with instrument backing. I was totally surprised by it's capabilities but I doubt if either song would be a hit.
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Fake music is nothing new.
Electronic drums are used to replace real drummers in bands. Been like that since the 80 's at least.
Electronic drums are used to replace real drummers in bands. Been like that since the 80 's at least.
happyrat1
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"german yodelling oompa song"
Apparently it can't sing in german.
AI is anglo-centric.
Apparently it can't sing in german.
AI is anglo-centric.
The yodelling is not too authentic-sounding either but the instrumental accompaniment is reasonably good. The first one even included a couple of seconds of needle noise right at the end - weird!
happyrat1
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What you are forgetting is that there's a learning algorithm involved. Eventually it gets better, smarter and more talented.
Asking a computer program to generate funk or motown or soul is unfair unless it's found a large enough database to draw upon.
And a one word prompt ain't gonna cut it. Ask it to perform a syncopated beat motown style torch song and here's what it comes up with.
Considering it comes up with original music and lyrics that puts a lot of professionals to shame you can overlook the white-girl-C&W-overmodulated-vocals and appreciate what's happened here.
Imagine handing Schroeder his toy. piano and he starts performing Mozart at 4 years old.
What's your batting average when it comes to composition of a really catchy tune compared to the meh performances.
happyrat1
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Apparently it's OK singing Italian Opera.
It's like the proverbial singing pig. It's not that it sings well, but rather that it sings at all.
It's like the proverbial singing pig. It's not that it sings well, but rather that it sings at all.
I kinda have to chuckle a little...
I like jazz. A good ol' jazz standard is good music to me. Osaka Jazz Channel on YouTube has some pretty good tunes out there, and they play well. One thing I've noticed, though, when they get those Japanese ladies trying to sing American tunes with the accent they bring, the whole thing comes crashing down, at least to me. Almost like Elmer Fudd singing Ave Maria. Just doesn't work. And it's not that they're bad singers, they're actually excellent musicians. American English, though... most don't nail that part.
Those both sound great but it might be even better if it could also sing the English translation - at the same time, of course.Apparently it's OK singing Italian Opera.
It's like the proverbial singing pig. It's not that it sings well, but rather that it sings at all.
happyrat1
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Apparently once you specify Wagnerian opera it thinks Lindsay Wagner.
I can tell you're having fun up there in the far north!