avoid Rhapsody and Shockhound

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  1. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    Gill Smith, Nov 2, 2010
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  2. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 2, 5:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks
    >
    > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    snocap is another to avoid. I bought some of my own tracks on the
    recommendation of someone here, and found I never had those tracks
    show as being sold. Surprise surprise surprise!

    Also, thought I don't know for sure, exfolks.com might be another
    issue. I finally canceled my account with them. I had several people
    say they bought tracks from me through ezfolks but I never saw a
    penny. Not only that, I couldn't even find an accounting page for my
    account.

    Good to know where the bad spots are. Post more if you have had doubts
    or issues. I'd love to know.
     
    Danny T, Nov 2, 2010
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  3. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    The Good Guys so far as I'm concerned are

    iTunes
    eMusic
    Amazon
    Napster



    On 2 Nov, 20:37, Danny T <> wrote:
    > On Nov 2, 5:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    >
    > > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks

    >
    > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > snocap is another to avoid. I bought some of my own tracks on the
    > recommendation of someone here, and found I never had those tracks
    > show as being sold. Surprise surprise surprise!
    >
    > Also, thought I don't know for sure, exfolks.com might be another
    > issue. I finally canceled my account with them. I had several people
    > say they bought tracks from me through ezfolks but I never saw a
    > penny. Not only that, I couldn't even find an accounting page for my
    > account.
    >
    > Good to know where the bad spots are. Post more if you have had doubts
    > or issues. I'd love to know.


    --
    http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
     
    Gill Smith, Nov 3, 2010
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  4. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 3, 5:54 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    > The Good Guys so far as I'm concerned are
    >
    > iTunes
    > eMusic
    > Amazon
    > Napster
    >
    > On 2 Nov, 20:37, Danny T <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > On Nov 2, 5:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:

    >
    > > > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks

    >
    > > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > > snocap is another to avoid. I bought some of my own tracks on the
    > > recommendation of someone here, and found I never had those tracks
    > > show as being sold. Surprise surprise surprise!

    >
    > > Also, thought I don't know for sure, exfolks.com might be another
    > > issue. I finally canceled my account with them. I had several people
    > > say they bought tracks from me through ezfolks but I never saw a
    > > penny. Not only that, I couldn't even find an accounting page for my
    > > account.

    >
    > > Good to know where the bad spots are. Post more if you have had doubts
    > > or issues. I'd love to know.

    >
    > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    in itunes.
     
    Danny T, Nov 3, 2010
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  5. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    On Nov 3, 7:15 pm, Danny T <> wrote:

    > I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    > in itunes.


    I've never used CDbaby

    the name alone puts me off!

    and messing about with CDs seems so 'last century'

    --
    http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
     
    Gill Smith, Nov 3, 2010
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  6. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 3, 3:51 pm, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    > On Nov 3, 7:15 pm, Danny T <> wrote:
    >
    > > I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    > > in itunes.

    >
    > I've never used CDbaby
    >
    > the name alone puts me off!
    >
    > and messing about with CDs seems so 'last century'
    >
    > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    Rethink it. They really are a good deal. I don't know how to get onto
    itunes any easier but besides that, they have a single release deal
    and some other things that might interest you.
     
    Danny T, Nov 3, 2010
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  7. Gill Smith

    Rick Stone Guest

    On 11/3/2010 4:51 PM, Gill Smith wrote:
    > On Nov 3, 7:15 pm, Danny T<> wrote:
    >
    >> I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    >> in itunes.

    >
    > I've never used CDbaby
    >
    > the name alone puts me off!
    >
    > and messing about with CDs seems so 'last century'
    >
    > --
    > http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    CDbaby is actually the BEST one for musicians to deal with. They take a
    MUCH smaller cut than Amazon (which is a total ripoff!)

    To give you an example, for my CDs that you can purchase on CDbaby for a
    mere $15/each, CDbaby PROMPTLY pays me $11. While Amazon sells the same
    CD for $20, and pays me only $7.20/each. Plus with CDbaby, I can send
    them 10 CDs at a time and save money by using Media Rate mail. Amazon
    orders ONE single CD every time they sell one, costing me about $3.00 to
    send (1st class postage plus the mailing container). I'm lately
    considering just not selling through Amazon anymore (I'm kind of doing
    that by default anyway lately since the keep sending me an order for ONE
    CD for the last month, and it's not even worth the walk to the post office).

    Add to that CDBaby actually answers the PHONE when you call (Amazon
    won't even answer an email when you have a problem, like the time I sent
    them CDs and the never acknowledged receipt of the product).

    --
    Musically Yours,
    Rick Stone
    Website: http://www.rickstone.com
    Recordings: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/jazzand
    Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/jazzand
    Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/rickstonemusic
    EPK: http://www.sonicbids.com/rickstone
     
    Rick Stone, Nov 3, 2010
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  8. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 3, 5:05 pm, Rick Stone <> wrote:
    > On 11/3/2010 4:51 PM, Gill Smith wrote:
    >
    > > On Nov 3, 7:15 pm, Danny T<>  wrote:

    >
    > >> I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    > >> in itunes.

    >
    > > I've never used CDbaby

    >
    > > the name alone puts me off!

    >
    > > and messing about with CDs seems so 'last century'

    >
    > > --
    > >http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > CDbaby is actually the BEST one for musicians to deal with.  They take a
    > MUCH smaller cut than Amazon (which is a total ripoff!)
    >
    > To give you an example, for my CDs that you can purchase on CDbaby for a
    > mere $15/each, CDbaby PROMPTLY pays me $11.  While Amazon sells the same
    > CD for $20, and pays me only $7.20/each.  Plus with CDbaby, I can send
    > them 10 CDs at a time and save money by using Media Rate mail.  Amazon
    > orders ONE single CD every time they sell one, costing me about $3.00 to
    > send (1st class postage plus the mailing container).  I'm lately
    > considering just not selling through Amazon anymore (I'm kind of doing
    > that by default anyway lately since the keep sending me an order for ONE
    > CD for the last month, and it's not even worth the walk to the post office).
    >
    > Add to that CDBaby actually answers the PHONE when you call (Amazon
    > won't even answer an email when you have a problem, like the time I sent
    > them CDs and the never acknowledged receipt of the product).
    >
    > --
    > Musically Yours,
    > Rick Stone
    > Website:http://www.rickstone.com
    > Recordings:http://www.cdbaby.com/all/jazzand
    > Videos:http://www.youtube.com/user/jazzand
    > Myspace:http://www.myspace.com/rickstonemusic
    > EPK:http://www.sonicbids.com/rickstone


    I agree Rick, I've called CDbaby and they are actually very cool to
    deal with. They know who we are and are set up to handle us in a way
    that we're happy with them.

    There were several places like CD baby that came out at the same time
    and the rest fell away fast. I think they were all good to start but
    CD baby went the extra mile in giving musicians some pretty good
    advice... for the beginning guy, and that made the difference. When
    they realized the model of giving out freebees for loyalty worked,
    they used it and went all the way. The end result it that they are and
    likely will stay the leader in indie record sales.

    I'm really happy with them with just a few small issues. They don't
    allow the musician to make their own song clips and they screwed up
    their dashboard for that new one that came out about a year or two
    back. I liked the old list control. It looked old but it worked easier
    for me.'

    The bottom line is that all of the other small companies have failed
    to report sales to me that I know happened and all of the big ones
    charge to much. I'll stick with CDbaby too.
     
    Danny T, Nov 4, 2010
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  9. On Nov 2, 6:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks
    >
    > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    I've been very happy with Rhapsody, but I don't buy tracks. I just use
    their unlimited subscription service.
     
    Jonathan (Cleve), Nov 5, 2010
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  10. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 4, 7:06 pm, "Jonathan (Cleve)" <> wrote:
    > On Nov 2, 6:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    >
    > > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks

    >
    > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > I've been very happy with Rhapsody, but I don't buy tracks. I just use
    > their unlimited subscription service.


    Then as a writer, you should see how they suck......
     
    Danny T, Nov 5, 2010
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  11. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    On Nov 3, 9:33 pm, Danny T <> wrote:
    > On Nov 3, 3:51 pm, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    >
    > > On Nov 3, 7:15 pm, Danny T <> wrote:

    >
    > > > I'm really happy with CDbaby but you probably are using them if you're
    > > > in itunes.

    >
    > > I've never used CDbaby

    >
    > > the name alone puts me off!

    >
    > > and messing about with CDs seems so 'last century'

    >
    > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > Rethink it. They really are a good deal. I don't know how to get onto
    > itunes any easier but besides that, they have a single release deal
    > and some other things that might interest you.


    I shall

    in time for the spring launch

    if I can sell my house

    --
    http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
     
    Gill Smith, Nov 5, 2010
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  12. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    "Rick Stone" <> wrote in message
    news:iasmb6$gb$-september.org...

    > CDbaby is actually the BEST one for musicians to deal with. They take a
    > MUCH smaller cut than Amazon (which is a total ripoff!)
    >
    > To give you an example, for my CDs that you can purchase on CDbaby for a
    > mere $15/each, CDbaby PROMPTLY pays me $11. While Amazon sells the same
    > CD for $20, and pays me only $7.20/each. Plus with CDbaby, I can send
    > them 10 CDs at a time and save money by using Media Rate mail. Amazon
    > orders ONE single CD every time they sell one, costing me about $3.00 to
    > send (1st class postage plus the mailing container).


    !!!???

    definitely no more CD-on-demand from Amazon then for me

    --
    http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
     
    Gill Smith, Nov 5, 2010
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  13. Gill Smith

    Gill Smith Guest

    On Nov 5, 12:06 am, "Jonathan (Cleve)" <> wrote:
    > On Nov 2, 6:42 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    >
    > > they don't comply with requests to remove tracks

    >
    > > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/

    >
    > I've been very happy with Rhapsody, but I don't buy tracks. I just use
    > their unlimited subscription service.


    I just don't want my old mistakes aired in public

    --
    http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
     
    Gill Smith, Nov 5, 2010
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  14. Gill Smith

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 5, 6:39 am, "Gill Smith" <> wrote:
    > "Rick Stone" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:iasmb6$gb$-september.org...
    >
    > > CDbaby is actually the BEST one for musicians to deal with.  They take a
    > > MUCH smaller cut than Amazon (which is a total ripoff!)

    >
    > > To give you an example, for my CDs that you can purchase on CDbaby for a
    > > mere $15/each, CDbaby PROMPTLY pays me $11.  While Amazon sells the same
    > > CD for $20, and pays me only $7.20/each.  Plus with CDbaby, I can send
    > > them 10 CDs at a time and save money by using Media Rate mail.  Amazon
    > > orders ONE single CD every time they sell one, costing me about $3.00 to
    > > send (1st class postage plus the mailing container).

    >
    > !!!???
    >
    > definitely no more CD-on-demand from Amazon then for me
    >
    > --http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/


    If you want CD dups made cheap, use http://kunaki.com They're a pain
    for mac guys like me because the only way to upload your stuff is
    through a PC connection. I had to get a PC for that - it is the
    single, only thing I do with it but it was worth it. They are fast and
    easy once you upload your CD. Be aware though that your actual CD art
    (not the front cover - back cover but face of the CD) will come out
    darker then you see it on your screen. I like to make the art several
    shades lighter or just do a printed word CD art thing.

    Anyway, they are about a hair over $1 per plus a little for shipping
    when you order 10. For some reason they charge more for when you buy
    large quantities. It works out pretty well for me to just order about
    10 per gig anyway.
     
    Danny T, Nov 5, 2010
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  15. Gill Smith

    Rick Stone Guest

    On 11/5/2010 2:23 PM, Danny T wrote:

    > If you want CD dups made cheap, use http://kunaki.com They're a pain
    > for mac guys like me because the only way to upload your stuff is
    > through a PC connection. I had to get a PC for that - it is the
    > single, only thing I do with it but it was worth it. They are fast and
    > easy once you upload your CD. Be aware though that your actual CD art
    > (not the front cover - back cover but face of the CD) will come out
    > darker then you see it on your screen. I like to make the art several
    > shades lighter or just do a printed word CD art thing.
    >
    > Anyway, they are about a hair over $1 per plus a little for shipping
    > when you order 10. For some reason they charge more for when you buy
    > large quantities. It works out pretty well for me to just order about
    > 10 per gig anyway.


    I use Kunaki for short run stuff as well and they do a good job. As for
    stuff coming out darker, this is true in general when going from screen
    to print. This is why you always order PROOFS of your artwork before
    actually going into production with any of the major cd
    replicators/printers. There can also be variations of color, and it may
    not be pretty. Check your work, then check it again. With Kunaki, I
    order one and look it over, make adjustments, then delete the old
    project and create a new one (I know it's kind of a pain since you have
    to upload the whole thing and all you really want to do is change the
    artwork, but they don't give you an option to do it any other way).
    I've sometimes done this from 2-4 times before getting exactly what I
    want, but it's still pretty cheap (and then I just give away the ones
    with minor color variations).

    Another thing you can do (you can read that SHOULD do!) is to calibrate
    your monitor. There's a pretty inexpensive kit you can get from Buy.com
    to do this now. And also just develop your eye and learn how things are
    going to translate from screen to print. After you do it for a while,
    you'll get a feel for it.

    --
    Musically Yours,
    Rick Stone
    Website: http://www.rickstone.com
    Recordings: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/jazzand
    Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/jazzand
    Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/rickstonemusic
    EPK: http://www.sonicbids.com/rickstone
     
    Rick Stone, Nov 5, 2010
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