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Message: [QUOTE="Biggles, post: 195921, member: 9560"] It was not joyriders, Nephew had a neighbour who was in organized crime. They intended to use the old Honda SUV for some criminal related purpose. They had stolen the car key from his home so the imobilizer was turned off, they targetted just the key nothing else. Nephew no longer lives in the same area. Its the normal method here in the UK to steal a car, either that or car jacking. So many cars here have trackers embedded in them, mine included. Modern cars can be accessed in 5s flat by use of a $25 scanner and another similar device connected to the OBD can have the key code changed. Not that I actually know how to do this, a Security guy on a car forum I belong to explained in great detail how the criminal fraternity operate and how he has to circumvent their actions with the very large fleet of company cars he advises upon. [/QUOTE]