Finalizing recordings in Cubase

Discussion in 'alt.steinberg.cubase' started by XODDI, Nov 13, 2010.

  1. XODDI

    XODDI Guest

    Basically, I've EQing the tracks, doing the final levels and then
    export them as a .wav file and removing any DC offset and normalizing
    them, finished. It just occurred to me that this is probably not
    optimium.

    Yes, I know I am a ****ing savage.

    So, use any specific plug-ins on the main? Render options?

    TIA

    yer pal
    XODDI
     
    XODDI, Nov 13, 2010
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    Jos Geluk Guest

    Op 14-11-2010 0:07, XODDI schreef:
    > Basically, I've EQing the tracks, doing the final levels and then
    > export them as a .wav file and removing any DC offset and normalizing
    > them, finished. It just occurred to me that this is probably not
    > optimium.
    >
    > Yes, I know I am a ****ing savage.
    >
    > So, use any specific plug-ins on the main? Render options?


    I use a multiband compressor and a bit of maximizing on the final mix. A
    little of both goes a long way, usually.

    Jos.


    --
    Ardis Park Music
    www.ardispark.nl
     
    Jos Geluk, Nov 14, 2010
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  3. XODDI

    Paulo Gomes Guest

    There's no rules, but there are some common procedures.
    After the mix, I export the file and import it on Wavelab

    Most of the times I put a multiband equalizer, a multi band compressor and
    multiband maximizer. Sometimes if needed I put an harmonic exciter and a
    stereo enhancer... These last 2 have to be used carefuly.

    Unlike you, I don't normalize but like you, I remove DC offset.

    I always leave 2 seconds of silence in the begining.

    As for Eqs, Compressors and maximizer, I don't have any rules, it goes how I
    hear it.

    Respect
    Paulo



    "XODDI" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Basically, I've EQing the tracks, doing the final levels and then
    > export them as a .wav file and removing any DC offset and normalizing
    > them, finished. It just occurred to me that this is probably not
    > optimium.
    >
    > Yes, I know I am a ****ing savage.
    >
    > So, use any specific plug-ins on the main? Render options?
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > yer pal
    > XODDI
     
    Paulo Gomes, Nov 14, 2010
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  4. XODDI

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 14, 3:09 pm, "Paulo Gomes" <>
    wrote:
    > There's no rules, but there are some common procedures.
    > After the mix, I export the file and import it on Wavelab
    >
    > Most of the times I put a multiband equalizer, a multi band compressor and
    > multiband maximizer. Sometimes if needed I put an harmonic exciter and a
    > stereo enhancer... These last 2 have to be used carefuly.
    >
    > Unlike you, I don't normalize but like you, I remove DC offset.
    >
    > I always leave 2 seconds of silence in the begining.
    >
    > As for Eqs, Compressors and maximizer, I don't have any rules, it goes how I
    > hear it.
    >
    > Respect
    > Paulo
    >
    > "XODDI" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:...
    >
    >
    >
    > > Basically, I've EQing the tracks, doing the final levels and then
    > > export them as a .wav file and removing any DC offset and normalizing
    > > them, finished. It just occurred to me that this is probably not
    > > optimium.

    >
    > > Yes, I know I am a ****ing savage.

    >
    > > So, use any specific plug-ins on the main? Render options?

    >
    > > TIA

    >
    > > yer pal
    > > XODDI


    Multi compressors, loudness maximizers and even exciters all work
    towards no dynamics. Be careful. See this: http://www.turnmeup.org/
     
    Danny T, Nov 15, 2010
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  5. XODDI

    Paulo Gomes Guest

    You're absolutely right... One gotta be carefull using those processors
    other wise it might sound dead.

    Paulo


    Multi compressors, loudness maximizers and even exciters all work
    towards no dynamics. Be careful. See this: http://www.turnmeup.org/
     
    Paulo Gomes, Nov 15, 2010
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  6. XODDI

    XODDI Guest

    On Nov 15, 6:50 am, "Paulo Gomes" <>
    wrote:
    > You're absolutely right... One gotta be carefull using those processors
    > other wise it might sound dead.
    >
    > Paulo
    >
    > Multi compressors, loudness maximizers and even exciters all work
    > towards no dynamics. Be careful. See this:http://www.turnmeup.org/


    Jos, Paulo, Danny, thanks for the tips. I have always kept compressors
    off the mains, almost superstitiously.

    But what about the UV22 Apogee dithering plug-in?
     
    XODDI, Nov 15, 2010
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  7. XODDI

    Danny T Guest

    On Nov 15, 1:05 pm, XODDI <> wrote:
    > On Nov 15, 6:50 am, "Paulo Gomes" <>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > You're absolutely right... One gotta be carefull using those processors
    > > other wise it might sound dead.

    >
    > > Paulo

    >
    > > Multi compressors, loudness maximizers and even exciters all work
    > > towards no dynamics. Be careful. See this:http://www.turnmeup.org/

    >
    > Jos, Paulo, Danny, thanks for the tips. I have always kept compressors
    > off the mains, almost superstitiously.
    >
    > But what about the UV22 Apogee dithering plug-in?


    People say they can hear the difference but I can't so I leave it
    alone.

    As for keeping compression off the mains, that is not an issue. You
    can compress the mains with stellar results, just don't over
    compress.

    Keep in mind a few things to look for. Audio, when compressed wrong
    not only loses dynamics but makes a pumping sound. You might want that
    for some things. You'll hear it if you are thinking about looking for
    it.

    If you compress everything just a little, you can bring out dynamics
    too. When you have a guitar miked up close, you'll see that some
    things really get accentuated. A compressor can level it out and make
    it sound much more natural but only when used lightly. I like to
    compress an acoustic that I'm figure style on with about 2:1 or maybe
    2.5 :1. That brings up the quite stuff and mellows the over picked
    notes. I do about the same to my vocals. I usually compress the hell
    out of the bass at about 6:1 so that it is just a solid backbone. I do
    something similar to snare and kick but I leave the toms a lot more
    loose. Back ground vocals I compress the hell out of too so that they
    are not the dynamic for people to pay attention to, leaving the lead
    vocal as the main actor. .. usually good....

    In the end when everything has the flavor that fits into the pie just
    right, I often compress the entire mix by about 1.5:1 to 2:1. that
    brings everything into the same room so to speak.

    Having said all that, I do natural sounding music where as in a dance
    song none of that applies. I am not into dance/trance/house...
    whatever. I do more of an acoustic style. When you are going for
    effects, nothing but creativity applies. The over squashed sound might
    be fine and dynamics can be achieved by removing instruments for a few
    bars. That sort of non intelligent mood music needs to grab your body,
    not your brain. No I don't like it but I do understand it....

    Good luck - make lots of music
     
    Danny T, Nov 15, 2010
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