Korg pa1000 - two different vocal presets in one Style

[Maestro]

How to save two different vocal presets in one style, can the vocal preset be linked to a certain STS in the rhythm or say to a variation, it means that in one variation or STS I have a lower third and in another variation or STS I have both a lower and an upper third, I tried to do it by assigning the vocal preset to a certain STS, but when I move to the next STS to put another vocal preset it remains for all 4 STSs, can it be done

 

[haager]

Hello,
It is not possible to save vocal presets in a style.

To choose a different VoicePreset that is done with the select button or via selection of sending a series of MIDI messages:
- Control Change #00 (Bank Select MSB) message with value ‘0’.
- Control Change #32 (Bank Select LSB) message to choose the type of preset (Factory= 0, User=1, Local=2).
- Program Change message to choose the preset (PC Number 0…63)
If your controlling device can only send Program Change messages, manually select the type of preset (Factory, User, Local).

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What you can do is to assign your different variations of vocal presets (lower/upper third etc..) to a SongBook Entry.
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With each SongBook Entry, a reference to a Style or Song only is saved (Sb-Entry.jpg).
When editing an Entry for Style area, with each entry
- up to four Keyboard Sets (Sounds, Effects) are saved
- a reference to four Pads is saved
- a reference to a Voice or Guitar Preset is saved.
So you can use the same style with many different style settings, without to change the style.
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This is good for playing with song-specific styles (titleSty.jpg) , allowing you to conveniently select song sections with pre-defined style settings, including transitions (fill, break, hooks, etc.), keyboard set, pads, and of course, the desired voice presets for a style (8Beat-VP.jpg).

To advance from one entry to the next, I prefer the Songbook's SetList, as well as a footswitch (to advance to the next entry) and an assignable switch (to advance to the previous entry).

To avoid cluttering the internal Songbook, I generally recommend organizing Songbook entries on external storage devices (USB-stick) with direct access usage.

 

[Maestro]

Alright, it looks like I'll have to do it that way since there is no possibility to link a vocal preset to a specific keyboard set or variation, thank you very much for the help

 

[haager]

Alright, it looks like I'll have to do it that way since there is no possibility to link a vocal preset to a specific keyboard set or variation, thank you very much for the help

I hope you didn't misunderstand my information regarding songbook entry and set list.

This means, of course, that it is not difficult to combine vocal presets and keyboard sets with variations of a style and to select them together.
In the Pa1000, the necessary links are not stored in the Style or the KbdSets, but in the Songbook. However, they can be accessed much more conveniently and with greater versatility using the Set List function.

Although expandable, four Sb entries are sufficient for parallel switching to the variations of a style.
If the selection of a styles variation also should to change the VP and KbdSet, the Set List buttons (1-4) are used instead of the Variation buttons (1-4).

This doesn't mean, however, that the variation buttons or the kbdSet buttons (#1-4) – which you refer to as STS – are no longer usable.

The SetList button toggles between Style Variation, Voice Preset, and KbdSet. The settings of the new KbdSet are initially based on KbdSet#1, while KbdSet#2-4 allow you to select additional KbdSets to be switched to the current variation with their respective Voice Presets.

This expands the range of functions in a way that was never possible with STS alone. Additionally, the Variation buttons allow you to select the other three variations alongside the current variation without changing the Voice Preset or KbdSet.

This combined switching works with the SetList buttons without needing the Variation and KbdSet buttons – however, these buttons enable more advanced variations.
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Using a SetList on a USB drive is, in my opinion, the most efficient method of data management with the Pa1000. This keeps the internal memory lean and uncluttered, making it ideal for the most frequently used resources, that aren't constantly being changed or moved to different locations.

For combined switching between Style Variations with VP and KeyboardSets, four Sb entries per Style are sufficient. These contain the settings for VP, KbdSet, and effects in the Songbook of a USB set. SetLists are accessable via direct access, while the resources remain in the internal memory. The SetLists are easy to manage, can be sorted by genre, event, or any other criteria, and can be edited and shared. Managing the SetList with Korg's Songbook Editor, as well as searching and directly accessing SetLists, is significantly easier than within the internal Songbook.
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PS: If you never used Direct-Acces and want to create the first sb-entry: The USB device must contain at least one set that is selected as a Direct Set.

 

[Maestro]

thanks for the detailed explanation, I realized that what I wanted can be done, I just have to create 4 different songs of the same name with different settings in the songbook and then with 1 click when selecting one of those 4 songs I immediately get everything I saved in each of those 4 songs

I studied a little on the net how to do it from the direct folder and everything works perfectly

once again, many thanks for the help