Registration Freeze for PSR e453

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  1. Allwyn

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    Hi team,

    Wanted to check if there is any way we can freeze styles and transpose parameters without changing voices.
     
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    SeaGtGruff I meant to play that note! Moderator

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    I think it might be possible, but you can't do it on the keyboard itself-- you'd need to hack the registrations in your BUP or USR files using a hex editor. I don't recommend doing that unless you're familiar with hex data and hex editors-- as well as the structure of your BUP or USR files-- and positively know what you're doing.

    The PSR-S, Tyros, and certain older PSR models did have a "freeze" function, but the PSR-E models don't have that. However, if a given data field within a saved registration contains invalid data-- generally a hex value of FF, but in some cases 7F-- then the keyboard will ignore that data field when the registration is recalled, such that the current setting of that item will be left untouched. This is a bit different than the freeze function, but it lets you achieve similar results.

    I can't promise anything for sure, but If you email one of your BUP or USR files to SeaGtGruff@yahoo.com so I can examine it, I may be able to write a simple Windows utility to let you freeze the voices in a registration, as well as add a second split point to your keyboard.

    (It turns out that the registrations for the PSR-E models-- at least, those I've seen-- contain two different data fields for the split point. The keyboard sets both fields to the same value when you save a registration, but they actually control two separate split points, similar to the way that PSR-S and certain older PSR models have two separate split points for the auto accompaniment and split voice. If you set the accompaniment split point to a lower value than the split voice split point, you can split your keyboard into three sections-- accompaniment on the left, split voice in the middle, and main and dual voices on the right. Normally you can't play with the split voice if the accompaniment is turned on, and the PSR-E models don't have functions for setting the two split points separately, so the only way to achieve this is by hacking a registration.)
     
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    Hi SeaGtGruff,

    Thanks for d info,

    Is it possible for any user to just save it generally not hacking by software, in normal ways as like psr i455 has a freeze lock mode which is absent in the e453.

    Even Casio ctk 7300in has d freeze lock feature wher styles cant be changed. Just d voices can b selected over the registry buttons once a style or rhythm is played
     
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    SeaGtGruff I meant to play that note! Moderator

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    The only data that can be "frozen" are the settings related to styles, patterns, and songs.

    If you press the STYLE button before you save a registration, the style settings will be saved-- Style Number, Style Variation, Style Volume, and Style Tracks-- but not the pattern and song settings.

    If you press the PATTERN button before you save a registration, the pattern settings will be saved-- Pattern Number, Pattern Section, Pattern Volume, and Pattern Tracks-- but not the style and song settings.

    If you press the SONG button before you save a registration, the song settings will be saved-- Song Volume and Song Tracks-- but not the style and pattern settings.

    In this way you can save the voices and other settings without saving the style settings, such that when you recall the registration it will change the voices and other settings but the currently-selected style will not be affected. But you can't do it the other way-- save the style settings but not the voice settings-- which is what your initial post seemed to be asking for (unless I misunderstood your question).
     
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    SeaGtGruff I meant to play that note! Moderator

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    I mean "frozen" on the keyboard, without having to hack any files.
     
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    Thank you!

    This helps a lot. The e453 is just a voicer to me I also use a ctk 7300 in where I have customised the rhythms that it gives a full band experience. Will share with u a style file which I created from a psr 710.

    This is a gift from me to you. Its very rare. And I doubt u must have ever heard such a rhythm earlier. None of the keyboards have it. Its common in India here we use it as a party medley.

    Hope u like it. Send me you id will mail it to you tomorrow.

    Thanks once again for the help.

    Allwyn Joe
    Octaves-band from the sand.
     
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    Hi Seagtgruff,

    I have mailed you. This is the master style file for yamaha keys.

    Its like a one man band file. Do give me the suggestions on this.


    Please check.;)

    Regards,
    Allwyn
     
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    SeaGtGruff I meant to play that note! Moderator

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    Okay, thank you! I'll check it out later and let you know what I think.
     
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    SeaGtGruff I meant to play that note! Moderator

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    I haven't tried it on my PSR-E443 yet, but I just looked at it in a hex editor and I see that it's a 4-variation SFF2 file. The PSR-E453 can't play SFF2 files, only SFF1 files. And although the PSR-E453 is able to use 4-variation style files, it can play only the A and B variations.

    If you'd like, I can convert the style file from SFF2 to SFF1 for you, and create two or more versions of it so all 4 variations are accessible on your PSR-E453. For instance, one version could contain the A and B variations, and another version could contain the C and D variations (but moved into the A and B positions so you can select them). I can also check the voices and drum kits, and change them as needed to ones that are available on the PSR-E453.
     
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