Two tier keyboard stand and ideas

Discussion in 'General Keyboard Discussion' started by ChrisNabil, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. ChrisNabil

    Jeremykeys

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    276
    Regarding legs, my Fender Rhodes and my Clavinet both had legs that screwed into the bottom of the keyboard. The on,y problem I ever had with them was that the legs were too short too play when standing up.
     
    Jeremykeys, Sep 26, 2018
    #61
    1. Advertisements

  2. ChrisNabil

    happyrat1 Destroyer of Eardrums!!!

    Joined:
    May 30, 2012
    Messages:
    6,982
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    Location:
    GTA, Canada
    While Biggles posted the Technics Organ as a Joke I was about to mention both the Hammond SK line and the Fender Rhodes which DO come with attachable legs (Not telescopic)

    However, what you are suggesting Ray would add 30% to Double the weight of some keyboards and how would you stack them if they had legs attached at the factory?

    Gary ;)
     
    happyrat1, Sep 26, 2018
    #62
    1. Advertisements

  3. ChrisNabil

    happyrat1 Destroyer of Eardrums!!!

    Joined:
    May 30, 2012
    Messages:
    6,982
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    Location:
    GTA, Canada
    Chris >>> I bow to your thorough research. Apparently you have a solid idea of what you are looking for in this rig and have done your homework. I was merely worried since $10K is a lot of coin to drop on a single purchase and you always end up losing money when you turn around and resell a few months or a year later :)

    Gary ;)
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2018
    happyrat1, Sep 26, 2018
    #63
    ChrisNabil likes this.
  4. ChrisNabil

    CowboyNQ

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,353
    Likes Received:
    1,105
    Location:
    Adelaide, Australia
    Watch from 6:00.

     
    CowboyNQ, Sep 26, 2018
    #64
    Rayblewit likes this.
  5. ChrisNabil

    ChrisNabil

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    46
    Location:
    phoenix
    Thank you Gary and thank you for the concern!. Yes, i learnt the hard way regarding reselling keyboards. After all said and done i think i lost about $600 on my Nord Stage 3 i sold thats why i tried to do as much homework as i could with this set up. I sold the Nord on ebay but with fee's ect....:(.
     
    ChrisNabil, Sep 26, 2018
    #65
  6. ChrisNabil

    Jeremykeys

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    276
    Very much like a Fender Rhodes Stage Piano. I had a Mark 1 many years ago just after the discovery of electricity.
    The back legs also had diagonal supports and the front legs were telescopic. I used to put the back legs on wooden supports, extend the front legs so I could play it standing up. I kind of wish I had never sold it but then I feel that way about every keyboard I've ever owned. I'm sure most of us feel that way.
     
    Jeremykeys, Sep 26, 2018
    #66
    CowboyNQ likes this.
  7. ChrisNabil

    Rayblewit Love Music / Love Life

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    1,773
    Likes Received:
    1,316
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
     
    Rayblewit, Sep 27, 2018
    #67
    CowboyNQ, Biggles and ChrisNabil like this.
  8. ChrisNabil

    CowboyNQ

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,353
    Likes Received:
    1,105
    Location:
    Adelaide, Australia
    Guitarist: I'll help you get that picked up, mate.
    Bassist: Yeah, whatever.
     
    CowboyNQ, Sep 28, 2018
    #68
    Rayblewit likes this.
  9. ChrisNabil

    CowboyNQ

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    1,353
    Likes Received:
    1,105
    Location:
    Adelaide, Australia
    Hi Chris,

    My setup below if it helps - I posted this before somewhere, not sure exactly where so I thought I'd repost here. The relevant part for you is the left hand side of the picture.

    I've been using the K&M 18880 for about two years now and seriously love it. It's not cheap but it's the lightest two tier stand with the quickest set up time of anything I've ever tried before.

    [​IMG]
     
    CowboyNQ, Sep 28, 2018
    #69
    Rayblewit, ChrisNabil and happyrat1 like this.
  10. ChrisNabil

    ChrisNabil

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    46
    Location:
    phoenix
    Many thanks!, gives me some ideas!
     
    ChrisNabil, Sep 28, 2018
    #70
    CowboyNQ likes this.
  11. ChrisNabil

    ChrisNabil

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    46
    Location:
    phoenix
    So this is my set up now. Took me three hours last night to find out why i was not able to get any sound through my Genos when trying to hook both up to my Monitors. I then realised there is a knob called "Gain - Peak" that was turned off. Once i turned that up i was well away :). I have two stands, a two tier X stand at the back and a Z stand for the Montage in the front. It works a treat.



    a1.jpg
     
    ChrisNabil, Sep 29, 2018
    #71
    Becky, CowboyNQ, happyrat1 and 2 others like this.
  12. ChrisNabil

    happyrat1 Destroyer of Eardrums!!!

    Joined:
    May 30, 2012
    Messages:
    6,982
    Likes Received:
    2,807
    Location:
    GTA, Canada
    Ground control to Major Chris...

    Commencing blastoff engines on :D

    Sweet looking rig. Have lots of fun with it, :)

    Gary ;)
     
    happyrat1, Sep 29, 2018
    #72
    ChrisNabil likes this.
  13. ChrisNabil

    ChrisNabil

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    46
    Location:
    phoenix
    Hahaha :) Thank you Gary. Yeah, now comes the hard bit, learning how to operate them lol. So far.... Wow !! i am amazed at the voices are incredible
     
    ChrisNabil, Sep 30, 2018
    #73
    happyrat1 likes this.
  14. ChrisNabil

    Mighty Motif Max

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Congratulations! Have fun!
     
    Mighty Motif Max, Sep 30, 2018
    #74
    ChrisNabil likes this.
  15. ChrisNabil

    Jeremykeys

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2017
    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    276
    Sounds like you're going to have a lifetime of fun!
     
    Jeremykeys, Sep 30, 2018
    #75
    ChrisNabil likes this.
  16. ChrisNabil

    ChrisNabil

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    46
    Location:
    phoenix
    Thank you guys!
     
    ChrisNabil, Sep 30, 2018
    #76
    CowboyNQ likes this.
  17. ChrisNabil

    anotherscott

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2010
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    19
    Although Chris is already set with his 2-stand combo, the K&M18880 with the 18881 stacker flipped backwards would be my choice for a single stand in this situation, i.e. if you want two boards in as "organ like" a configuration as possible (both manuals flat, second manual above and behind the first, with as little space between them as possible, with all controls fully accessible).

    The same laptop/ipad sequencer you can use with a Montage you can also use with a Tyros... but you don't have to, since unlike the Montage, the Tyros does include a full function MIDI sequencer. The Tyros arranger functions, then, are not a substitute for the kind of sequencing you prefer, but rather an addition. Both approaches can be useful for composition or for backing tracks. A sequencer lets you precisely control every part; an arranger lets you much more quickly get a rough arrangement together without having to precisely control every part, generating it in real-time as you play. Tyros includes both functions.

    Another nice thing about an arranger is, if you are entertaining people (whether at a party at home, or hired as one-man entertainment), and you like to play with backing tracks, you're not limited to the songs you have pre-sequenced . With an arranger, someone has a request, you know the song well enough to fake it... you hit a button and play it with full backing tracks, with no advance prep. (And of course, you're getting better quality backing tracks on a Genos than on a cheap arranger.) Also, improvising with an arranger is kind of like jamming with a band... you may not know exactly what everyone else is going to be playing, but hearing what they play can in turn prompt you to play something yourself that you might not have come up with otherwise. OTOH, you can't improv over a sequence until you compose the sequence. The point is, there are creative uses for both approaches.

    But personally, the biggest appeal of the Genos for me might be the sounds. As MMM said, the Genos offers a different sound set, and it's a lot more than an extra "electronic piano sound." Something MMM didn't mention is the AEM (Articulation Element Modeling) used in their SA2 voices, which Yamaha describes this way:

    "This technology simulates the subtle nuances and performance characteristics of musical instruments. When you play, Genos automatically chooses appropriate samples in real time, according to what and how you play. Samples are smoothly joined and articulated, just as they would naturally occur on an acoustic instrument."

    Basically, a lot of acoustic instruments sound better and play more naturally/realistically on a Tyros, than on a Montage or on possibly anything else. There's some interesting basic info about this at http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-articulation-future/
    So even if you don't care about the arranger functions, if you want a keyboard with the best sounding live-playable non-keyboard acoustic instrument emulations, it's probably Tyros.
     
    anotherscott, Nov 6, 2018
    #77
    ChrisNabil likes this.
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.