Van Halen on Kross 2

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Hi guys... Anybody know the setup on Kross 2 to play songs such as "Why can't this be love", "dreams", "love walks in", etc.? I've heard good patches that are for sale but I don't want 50 other songs (not right now, anyways)... Just these Van Halen songs. Anybody have any idea?
 
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My suggestion would be to head over to the Korg forum and ask in the dedicated Kross section.

I used to have a Kross 2 but Van Halen, no they are not my scene but hopefully someone can advise on a Combi that you can set up together with the Fx required.
 
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I remember the Korg Microstation having a Combi that worked perfectly for 'Why Can't This Be Love'. It even had the drumbeat in there for practicing. I have not found it on the Kross 1, and I am not sure if it is on the Kross 2. The main sound, other than the bass sound in the beginning of the song, is a Sync Lead type sound. Since the Kross (and Kross 2) cannot sync the oscillators like an analog synth can, I am not completely sure how they did it, but I am sure you can get close :)

With regard to 'Dreams', that is basically a Piano and a Synth patch played together with a bit of Sustain on the synth sound. It would be a saw type synth sound that layers with the piano.

'Loves Walks In' is similar in its fashion. You could also layer Synth Strings or Analog Strings as well to add more sustain to the sound.

When setting up the Combis for this, put Reverb in one of the MFX slots and add Chorus to the Synth and String parts.

Other than buying program/combi packs online, you may have to create them yourself. I make all of my own Combis and programs that I need for any of the songs I do with the band I am in.

I do not have the Kross 2. I have the Kross 1. I have a friend who bought a Kross 2-88 and I help her program her sounds for her band. Since the Kross 1 and Kross 2 are almost identical in operation, I can offer advice on how to make them sound good.

Grace,
Harry
 
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I remember the Korg Microstation having a Combi that worked perfectly for 'Why Can't This Be Love'. It even had the drumbeat in there for practicing. I have not found it on the Kross 1, and I am not sure if it is on the Kross 2. The main sound, other than the bass sound in the beginning of the song, is a Sync Lead type sound. Since the Kross (and Kross 2) cannot sync the oscillators like an analog synth can, I am not completely sure how they did it, but I am sure you can get close :)

With regard to 'Dreams', that is basically a Piano and a Synth patch played together with a bit of Sustain on the synth sound. It would be a saw type synth sound that layers with the piano.

'Loves Walks In' is similar in its fashion. You could also layer Synth Strings or Analog Strings as well to add more sustain to the sound.

When setting up the Combis for this, put Reverb in one of the MFX slots and add Chorus to the Synth and String parts.

Other than buying program/combi packs online, you may have to create them yourself. I make all of my own Combis and programs that I need for any of the songs I do with the band I am in.

I do not have the Kross 2. I have the Kross 1. I have a friend who bought a Kross 2-88 and I help her program her sounds for her band. Since the Kross 1 and Kross 2 are almost identical in operation, I can offer advice on how to make them sound good.

Grace,
Harry
Amazing! This is very useful information...however...haha...I have no clue where to find and how much to set each "tuning". "A little more", "a bit of sustain" doesn't help me much yet as I just bought the keyboard a week ago and am still figuring out the menus. Which piano is used? What strings are used?...any idea? This is a great start and I'll work with your suggestions to see what I can come up with. Thanks for your help! I'll keep you posted!
 
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Amazing! This is very useful information...however...haha...I have no clue where to find and how much to set each "tuning". "A little more", "a bit of sustain" doesn't help me much yet as I just bought the keyboard a week ago and am still figuring out the menus. Which piano is used? What strings are used?...any idea? This is a great start and I'll work with your suggestions to see what I can come up with. Thanks for your help! I'll keep you posted!
My first recommendation is to go through each sound and see how they sound to you. Yeah, I konw there are a lot of them on the Kross 2, but you should probably go through them just to hear them. You may find, upon initial listening, that they sound a bit dry and dull. Do not worry, Korg kind of does things this way. What I have found with my many years with Korg products, is that they are kind of dry at first. When you add Reverb to them, they will really open up the sound, especially on the Piano sounds.

For 'Love Walks In', you could use the Kross Grand Piano, Stereo Grand Piano, or maybe even a Bright Piano for the principal sound in the Combi you will make for it. You could even probably use the Rock Piano program. It may work the best.

For the String part, there should be a program called Synth Strings or Analog Strings that you could use. Two programs you can check out are the Synth String Pad and Analog Strings.

For the Synth part, look for a Saw type synth sound in the Synth Lead Category. Keep in mind that sometimes, the lead synth sounds are going to be monophonic (meaning you can only play a single note). You can change this in the program itself, by changing it from Mono to Poly. It is some of the first menus when you are editing the program. Save your new program to a User location and you should be fine. Fat Saw Lead, Unison Pad, or Saw Ensemble Synth might work for this layer.

For 'Dreams', You could probably use a similar type setup as you would for 'Love Walks In', but I would probably add an EP sound in there, something like an FM Piano or FM EP sound to add to the attack of the Piano sound. I would also map the volume of the strings and pad to the Mod Wheel so that you could control the volume of them so they do not add mud to the percussive parts of the song after the intro... this will be explained in the manual. You could also add a volume (also called expression) pedal to the Kross 2 and you could control the volume that way on each track you set it up for.

For 'Why Can't This Be Love', what you choose depends on what you are playing. If you are doing the bass part in the beginning of the song, then I would go through your bass sounds, as none of them look familiar to me. For the synthy sound after the intro, you could certainly use Fat Sync Lead or MS2K FastSync Lead for the Hard Sync sound that VH used for that song. I would recommend splitting the keyboard to where the bass is on the left and the sync synth sounds are on the right.

With all of these, you will need to add EFX as well, and that is explained in the manual and is much easier than my trying to explain it here.

Once you get the navigation down on the Kross, then you will be breezing around that thing like nobody's business. Another thing to consider - there is an editor for the Kross 2 that you can run on your PC or as a plugin for your DAW. Just plug in a USB cable between the two, fire up the editor and you will be able to navigate around much easier that fiddling through all of the menus. I have used the editor for my Kross 1 quite a lot for designing sounds and it really is helpful and much easier than navigating around through that LCD screen.

I hope that this helps a bit more. All of the synth programs I speak of are based on the Program Listing sheet for the original Kross 2. If you have the new Kross 2, you may have additional sounds that I did not find on the list.

Grace,
Harry
 
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Harry... Many kudos to you! This is exceptional information for a Kross 2 newbie like myself. I really appreciate the time and effort that it took to explain all this. I'm going to dig into the menus and see what I get, wish me luck!
 

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