How To Record Better - A Beginner's Call for Help!

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Hello All!

Disclaimer - Long Post Ahead.

A quick introduction - I've been playing the keyboard since a couple of years now and have managed to improve my playing significantly, however, in the perennial quest of building my chops and technique, I largely neglected the importance of learning how to 'record' an instrument properly, so to speak, how to do justice to the 'audio' part of the entire musical experience.

Fast forward to today, I have my own YouTube channel where I post video recordings through my smartphone. Both the audio and video is recorded directly with the in-built microphones of the smartphone.

My problem is - I'd really want to record 'better' and do justice to my playing and learning of the instrument. I somehow feel that with the proper recording gear, things will change for the better and I'd really be able to live up to my own expectations (quite a self critic, I am)

Here's the help I need -

1. Could you please suggest me a portable recorder that can help me record my playing on the fly as in without any extra bells or whistles.

2. Could you please suggest alternative ways that are cheap and simple to start with and would definitely improve the sound I record.

3. Alternatively, if there's any other way (better or simpler than the ones above) to record what I play, please suggest the same.

Few Things To Be Considered -

1. I own a modern day smartphone and a decent laptop with audacity, no DSLR, no Point and Shoot cam, nothing more.

2. I own a Casio CDP-120 Digital Piano.

3. My budget for the entire activity depends on the viability of the solution provided by you folks. However, I can stretch upto 200-300 USD at max.

3. I live in a fairly noisy environment, which is critical as I don't plan to move around anytime soon plus have no means of soundproofing the scene for now. So, looking for something which only captures the music and not the noise.

Extra Bits -

1. I have a fair bit of understanding about MIDI, Cables and Microphones but mostly a noob at it.

2. I know a bit about external sound cards which can allow my digital keyboard to be connected to the PC and record directly, while allowing me to listen to what I play simultaneously.

3. Ideally, would love to get a solution as simple as possible and yet improve the audio quality of my playing (that's partially why the Zoom H1 looks like a viable option to me so far)

So there you have it folks. Thank you for reading this so far, I would really appreciate if you could share your valuable thoughts and help a fellow keyboard lover! Apologies for the long and boring post, but I really wanted you guys to know where I am coming from and where I want to head to....

As I said, I love to play for my own self and really want to hear the best version of what I do!

I've had some wonderful appreciation and support from folks here at KeyboardForums in the past, especially Gary who has been very helpful and kind with his feedback.

Looking forward to some incredible advice and tips, friends!

Many Thanks
B
 

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Hi Bharat...

It seems we've been down this road before.

I can't really speak for video recording but here's a couple of suggestions for simple studio quality recording on the fly.

Get a Tascam Porta Studio Recorder. Better to spring for the 6 track or 8 track instead of the stereo because at least then you can add and record separate tracks for percussion and basslines and accompaniment later on even if you don't feel up to it right away.

Amazon offers a few package deals with everything you need to get started.

These might be the simplest way for you to start making professional quality recordings.

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DR-05-Portable-Handheld-accessory/dp/B01D0H550E/

https://www.amazon.com/DP-006-Portastudio-Portable-Multi-Track-Recorder/dp/B00BEGS5NI/

https://www.amazon.com/DP-008EX-Portastudio-Portable-Multi-Track-Recorder/dp/B00B9060X6/

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DP-008EX-8-Track-Digital-Headphones/dp/B01E639WSW/

https://www.amazon.com/Recorder-Accessory-Microphone-Headphones-FiberTique/dp/B06XFXNVD9/

Or you could simply input your keyboard's line outs to your computer soundcard's line in as I've explained to you before but you really don't seem to grasp just how simple a process it truly is.

As for editing your recorded soundtracks into your videos? That's a matter of finding decent editing software and skilffully splicing and syncing the finished product.

If you really need a lot of handholding and explanation I'd suggest that you check out http://homerecording.com/bbs/ and read thru the beginners' posts over there.

It's really not rocket science Bharat.

Just get the sound directly into the computer using a direct connection and sync it up with the video. It can be done with horrendously expensive hardware or it can be done as simply as with a Webcam and a couple of audio cables.

The choices are up to you and I suggest you do your homework before you drop a dime on additional hardware.

Gary ;)
 
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Hi Bharat...

It seems we've been down this road before.

I can't really speak for video recording but here's a couple of suggestions for simple studio quality recording on the fly.

Get a Tascam Porta Studio Recorder. Better to spring for the 6 track or 8 track instead of the stereo because at least then you can add and record separate tracks for percussion and basslines and accompaniment later on even if you don't feel up to it right away.

Amazon offers a few package deals with everything you need to get started.

These might be the simplest way for you to start making professional quality recordings.

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DR-05-Portable-Handheld-accessory/dp/B01D0H550E/

https://www.amazon.com/DP-006-Portastudio-Portable-Multi-Track-Recorder/dp/B00BEGS5NI/

https://www.amazon.com/DP-008EX-Portastudio-Portable-Multi-Track-Recorder/dp/B00B9060X6/

https://www.amazon.com/Tascam-DP-008EX-8-Track-Digital-Headphones/dp/B01E639WSW/

https://www.amazon.com/Recorder-Accessory-Microphone-Headphones-FiberTique/dp/B06XFXNVD9/

Or you could simply input your keyboard's line outs to your computer soundcard's line in as I've explained to you before but you really don't seem to grasp just how simple a process it truly is.

As for editing your recorded soundtracks into your videos? That's a matter of finding decent editing software and skilffully splicing and syncing the finished product.

If you really need a lot of handholding and explanation I'd suggest that you check out http://homerecording.com/bbs/ and read thru the beginners' posts over there.

It's really not rocket science Bharat.

Just get the sound directly into the computer using a direct connection and sync it up with the video. It can be done with horrendously expensive hardware or it can be done as simply as with a Webcam and a couple of audio cables.

The choices are up to you and I suggest you do your homework before you drop a dime on additional hardware.

Gary ;)

Thanks for the headstart Gary! I appreciate our taking your time and helping me out all over again.

Just a quick question, what are your views about portable recorders like Zoom and Tascam?
 

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I bought my daughter (an aspiring opera singer) the Zoom Q2N. She hasn't told me how it works for her. If she ever uses it (grumble, grumble, grumble), I'll post a sample here. It's incredibly small. It's designed for high pressure sounds. Basically, it's a stereo microphone with a video camera stuck in the middle. It saves onto a memory card which you can stick in your computer for uploading to YouTube, etc. It's in your budget.

One reason I got it for her is that opera singers, especially sopranos, tend to over-power any microphones they're using. There were two recordings made of her junior recital. My phone's recording had fewer overloading distortions, but it still had some. The other recording was a microphone going directly to a computer sitting next to me, and it distorted even more. She needs to produce demos for auditions, so getting the best quality sound was important.

(If you want to see what my phone captured, go to:
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[Edit: sorry, those were supposed to be links, not embedded media.]

If you're looking at continuing to post to YouTube, you should look at video cameras designed for musicians, with external microphone / line inputs. If you're using an electronic keyboard, use the line out of the keyboard (or mixer, if you're using external effects) and go directly to the camera. If you're using acoustic instruments, use a dedicated musician's camera with a good built in microphone or a video camera that uses an external microphone. Look at sites aimed at musicians (Sweetwater, Sam Ash, etc.) and look at the cameras they sell. I doubt they would list something that didn't take external mikes.

How to use a line in on the camera. Get a cord that's got a 1/4" stereo plug at one end, and an 1/8" plug at the other end. (Or an adaptor.) Stick the 1/4" plug into the line out of your keyboard, and the 1/8" plug into the line/microphone input on your camera. Check the settings for the camera, and set it to line.
 
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@Fred Coulter your daughter has an incredible voice, you must be very proud! :D

I hope she does make use of the video recorder, it will be interesting to hear how the quality compares to your phone.
 

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