REVOICE ? DGX-670

[MiddleC]

I was browsing through various sheet music selections for Clair de Lune on Musescore. I came across one that was for voice. I played it a bit on tghe app, and that was what it was.

So I wondered what it would sound like on my DGX 670. So I experimented a bit with the 4 voices to see if I could come up wiht Soprano, Alto, Tenor and Bass. I could to some extent, but not sure if I could do better.

So, I downloaded it in MIDI format. When I play it, it sounds pretty good. I chedked via the mixer what voices were being used. It showed only 1, that being used on all 4 tracks. I was thinking of using different octaves, and being as it showed the same voice for all 4 tracks...well, ok.

But the one voice it showed being used was ChoirAahs1. See picture attached.

I cannot find anything like that in the voice buttons. I notice at the top left of the screen it looks like an image of a guitar, and says Revoice. That typically is saying either Left, Main, or Layer to identify which of those buttons the voice will be assisgned to. I have no idea what that is. When I Googled it, I just got lots of ads, and tutorials, etc.

Any ideas?

 

[SeaGtGruff]

I think you may have attached the wrong picture?

The name "ChoirAahs1" sounds like it might be one of the older "legacy" voices, which Yamaha doesn't show in the voices any more for some reason; see the threads discussing how to access the GM and XG voices for discussions about that.

 

[SeaGtGruff]

Another thought... As for the "Revoice" label, I wonder if that might be indicating that the specific voice being selected by the MIDI file isn't available on the keyboard and had to be revoiced or changed to a different voice? That (voice substitution) is something Yamaha and other manufacturers will sometimes do so their keyboards can play MIDI files even if some or all of the requested voices aren't available on a given keyboard model.

 

[MiddleC]

Yes, I apparently attached an old picture.

Your thoughts sounds logical to me. I'll check per your suggestion on the GM and XG voice.

I find it interesting that they won't show voices that are the substitutions.

Correct picture attached.

 

[SeaGtGruff]

I couldn't see any text or illustration in either the Owners Manual or Reference Manual that says "Revoice," but based on the photo you attached it looks like the song file is using either a GM or XG voice already, as indicated by the text at the bottom of the screen.

So "Revoice" probably just means that you're in whatever function lets you change the voices for a MIDI song. The fact that neither of the manuals mentions it could simply be that the manuals are very sketchy, or brief and incomplete, when it comes to describing all of the functionalities of the keyboard.

 

[MiddleC]

I had the same results with the manuals. I even checked in the data manual.

The fact that neither of the manuals mentions it could simply be that the manuals are very sketchy, or brief and incomplete, when it comes to describing all of the functionalities of the keyboard.

To me the manuals in fact are not that great. Some of the information is imperfect. Sometimes even difficult to follow the directions line by line and get results expected. Example: creating and combining banks with play lists.

Michael, I just want to take this opportunity to tell you that I recognize the effort you put into this forum, and appreciate it very much.

 

[papasmurph]

I'm not that much acquainted with the 670, but can you save to a GM2 compatible MIDI file? The 670 should be GM2 compatible also for voices, and should make a best effort of voice mapping to be compatible. It has voices enough to support GM2 in full.

 

[MiddleC]

I need to research that. I don't recollect seeing anything about that type of file, but of course I've never done anything with those so who knows. I'll check it out and report back.

 

[graham uk]

Choir...Check the DGX670 Legacy Folder.
Also there are VCE's Choirs available (PSR Tutorial)

 

[MiddleC]

I missed your reply. I am again chasing a different voice.

I hadn't really even realized I could go to different directories on the voices. So, reading your reply, I've gone to the legacy folder, and there are some things there. However, the voice per topic of this thread is not there. I ended up using one of the built in choir voices, and playing at different octaves for male/female

The thing I'm chasing now is a French Horn. I have a midi (and sheet music for it) I downloaded from Musescore that I'm recording myself. I downloaded the midi just for the value of comparing to when I'm doing on the keyboard, as opposed to the synthesizer on the Musescore site.

So one of the instruments being used is a French Horn. I have the same situation: when I check the instrument in the mixer, it is in Revoice, FrenchHorn.

The ONLY French Horn voice on the 670 is FrenchHorns (plural). And it sounds nothing like the one in Revoice.

I found files for the GM ,GM2 and XG voices. There are 3 different French Horns in GM/XG, and two in lGM2. They all sound pretty much the same. The one being used via Revoice (whatever that is) sounds more bass.

I'll have to just choose a different horn if I want a different sound.

[EDIT]
Something else interesting I just experienced. I pulled up the Mixer and went to the track using the Revoice FrenchHorn. I moved off of it and selected another, sounded different. Went back to the one that came up in the first place, and played it...it too sounds different. Now that seems pretty odd to me.

JFYI when I pull up the instrument via the mixer, in revoice, there are 4 pages of voices. (Only way I've seen to pull it up is if it's in a midi file that is using it,and I use the mixer to get to it). But.,..as stated aabive...once I move off of it, and come back to it, it doesnot sound the same as playing it from the midi.