Psr regular voices
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Rayblewit
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Voices . . I think you will get most of the same standards . . Piano, horns, synth etc.
But you will also get heaps more . . Guitars for instance, there will be dozens of options.
I am wondering did you mean to ask about acmps rather than voices?
I believe many of these present in the 453 do exist in the psr's plus many more.
You need to test drive.
Best of luck.
Ray
But you will also get heaps more . . Guitars for instance, there will be dozens of options.
I am wondering did you mean to ask about acmps rather than voices?
I believe many of these present in the 453 do exist in the psr's plus many more.
You need to test drive.
Best of luck.
Ray
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Linda
No, the E series and the S series voices sound different, with the S series sounding richer and fuller but there is a but and its a big one, do read on.
Please do not get hooked on Yamaha just because you have one already.
I used to have a Yamaha and when I was looking to upgrade I went out and played quite a few different makes and models.
At my local store I played a Yamaha PSR S775 back to back with a Korg PA700, one sounded like a toy and looked as though it was made of cheap plastic compared to the other, I bought the Korg.
Do go to your music store and have a play of both you will be surprized at how the S775 performs relative to the Korg.
The Korg has a great advantage over many Arrangers in that each Style is fully customisable as are the Individual Instrument voices, once you get a Style and its keyboard STS buttons set you save it as the Song you have set it up to play then whenever you want to play that song again you call it up and play. No more faffing around like on the E series getting the Style just how you want it with the Korg its a single button press.
No, the E series and the S series voices sound different, with the S series sounding richer and fuller but there is a but and its a big one, do read on.
Please do not get hooked on Yamaha just because you have one already.
I used to have a Yamaha and when I was looking to upgrade I went out and played quite a few different makes and models.
At my local store I played a Yamaha PSR S775 back to back with a Korg PA700, one sounded like a toy and looked as though it was made of cheap plastic compared to the other, I bought the Korg.
Do go to your music store and have a play of both you will be surprized at how the S775 performs relative to the Korg.
The Korg has a great advantage over many Arrangers in that each Style is fully customisable as are the Individual Instrument voices, once you get a Style and its keyboard STS buttons set you save it as the Song you have set it up to play then whenever you want to play that song again you call it up and play. No more faffing around like on the E series getting the Style just how you want it with the Korg its a single button press.
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To answer your specific question, you should look at the MSB, LSB, and PC values which are listed for the voices of two different Yamaha models to see if they're the "same" voices. For the "panel voices" it's possible that the MSB or LSB will be different even if the voices have the same names, but some of them might have the same MSB, LSB, and PC values.
As Biggles pointed out, even if those values are the same, the voices on a PSR-S model will most likely sound "richer and fuller" than the "same" voices on a PSR-E model. That's because the PSR-E models can use only one element per voice whereas the PSR-S models can use multiple elements per voice. An "element" is basically a single sound sample, so being able to use two or more elements per voice means that two or more sound samples can be layered together to create a single voice, resulting in a "richer and fuller" sound than if only a single sound sample were used.
But as suggested, it's best to compare models from different manufacturers before you make up your mind what to get. You can take other people's opinions and suggestions into consideration-- which can be immensely valuable if someone has extensive experience with two or more different models or brands and can point out the pros and cons of each-- but you should always try to "test drive" any models you're considering so you can form your own opinion which one feels best, sounds best, and operates best for your particular needs.
As Biggles pointed out, even if those values are the same, the voices on a PSR-S model will most likely sound "richer and fuller" than the "same" voices on a PSR-E model. That's because the PSR-E models can use only one element per voice whereas the PSR-S models can use multiple elements per voice. An "element" is basically a single sound sample, so being able to use two or more elements per voice means that two or more sound samples can be layered together to create a single voice, resulting in a "richer and fuller" sound than if only a single sound sample were used.
But as suggested, it's best to compare models from different manufacturers before you make up your mind what to get. You can take other people's opinions and suggestions into consideration-- which can be immensely valuable if someone has extensive experience with two or more different models or brands and can point out the pros and cons of each-- but you should always try to "test drive" any models you're considering so you can form your own opinion which one feels best, sounds best, and operates best for your particular needs.
Before you do further research do have a look at
It is the first of Korgs own video tutorials, which I think will help you.
I am not suggesting that the Korg is the best for you but their video tutorials are far better than other makes and if you watch the series of them they will give you a good idea of what features are available in the more upmarket Arranger series than the beginner Arrangers.
You should find that Yamaha S series have similar features and as it happens arguably the best Arranger is the Yamaha Genos but that is serious money like £3700 here in the UK, nothing comes close to it in cost, the best Korg is the PA4X at £2500.
Good luck
It is the first of Korgs own video tutorials, which I think will help you.
I am not suggesting that the Korg is the best for you but their video tutorials are far better than other makes and if you watch the series of them they will give you a good idea of what features are available in the more upmarket Arranger series than the beginner Arrangers.
You should find that Yamaha S series have similar features and as it happens arguably the best Arranger is the Yamaha Genos but that is serious money like £3700 here in the UK, nothing comes close to it in cost, the best Korg is the PA4X at £2500.
Good luck
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One more thing I’d like to add about the PSR-S is that you might be tempted to go with it because you’re already familiar with a PSR-E model. But— and I say this without ever having played a PSR-S myself, so take it as you will— I suspect that you’d find the PSR-S to be a “different beast” than the PSR-E, possibly having more differences than similarities as far as their operating procedures. So don’t be afraid to consider a different brand just because you already have some experience with one of Yamaha’s models. I’m not trying to steer you away from a PSR-S if that is what you want; I’m just saying that you might be faced with a learning curve regardless of which brand you end up going with.
Rayblewit
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I once owned a PSR E model (early one) 10 years ago.
I updated to a PSR S650. a few years ago.
I tried out a few other brands too. I chose the PSR S650 because the voices and ACMPS were the same as I was used to.
(apart from the fact I got a good deal btw).
So I tend to disagree with @Biggles to some extent. So the Yamaha S models do indeed have the same basics as the E models but somewhat enhanced (as @SeaGtGruff described).
The PSR S650 has unbelievable sounds with the DSP feature! I would imagine the PSR S775 would be amazing!
So I say @LindaP you should definately test drive the PSR S775 and compare it with what you are familiar with.
Cheers
Ray
I updated to a PSR S650. a few years ago.
I tried out a few other brands too. I chose the PSR S650 because the voices and ACMPS were the same as I was used to.
(apart from the fact I got a good deal btw).
So I tend to disagree with @Biggles to some extent. So the Yamaha S models do indeed have the same basics as the E models but somewhat enhanced (as @SeaGtGruff described).
The PSR S650 has unbelievable sounds with the DSP feature! I would imagine the PSR S775 would be amazing!
So I say @LindaP you should definately test drive the PSR S775 and compare it with what you are familiar with.
Cheers
Ray
One thing that you will find in any none E model irrespective of manufacturer is that they are far more versatile and customisable than you are used to and hence whatever the make there will be a steep learning curve.
Again I am not steering you towards Korg its just I know more about them and how their support system works which does blow other manufacturers into the water.
Korg UK has its own Magazine in Korg PA World and as part of that the two Sales Guys that cover the UK have a live web streaming webinair every month where they answer direct live questions and demonstrate how to use the functions of the PA series, I have had a one to one session with one of them in person and they really are very good.
What I am getting at is the webinairs can be found via
so if you register and follow the links where the last episode is available to watch and it covers using Fx, setting them up and how they sound.
Its such customisable actions that makes the next stage of keyboard ownership exciting as the difference in available sound quality is huge and as many of the more professional Arranger keyboards than the E series have exactly this vast array of available features.
Hence do be flexible and try different makes and do get the Sales person to show you what each one will do and just how a single sound can be adjusted to sound very different.
Knowledge is the key, know what is available, what it can do, how it performs, how it is customised and then try. try, try before you buy.
Again I am not steering you towards Korg its just I know more about them and how their support system works which does blow other manufacturers into the water.
Korg UK has its own Magazine in Korg PA World and as part of that the two Sales Guys that cover the UK have a live web streaming webinair every month where they answer direct live questions and demonstrate how to use the functions of the PA series, I have had a one to one session with one of them in person and they really are very good.
What I am getting at is the webinairs can be found via
so if you register and follow the links where the last episode is available to watch and it covers using Fx, setting them up and how they sound.
Its such customisable actions that makes the next stage of keyboard ownership exciting as the difference in available sound quality is huge and as many of the more professional Arranger keyboards than the E series have exactly this vast array of available features.
Hence do be flexible and try different makes and do get the Sales person to show you what each one will do and just how a single sound can be adjusted to sound very different.
Knowledge is the key, know what is available, what it can do, how it performs, how it is customised and then try. try, try before you buy.
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Thanks for your advice. I don’t think the 453 sounds like a toy so I doubt that the 775 would but I will try it soon to see how it works in live performances. Korg is not very popular here so I think I stick with Yamaha. Do you know of any forum where there are 775/975 users?
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The PSR Tutorial Forum has a lot of members who use the PSR-S models.
Rayblewit
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The opening tune on this vid is exactly the same I have on my S650.
I would imagine there are dozens more sounds which Yamaha uses on all its models.
I m currently looking to upgrade to the Yamaha S670 or S675.
I am not sure the S775 is worth the extra price.
Why are you planning such a massive jump in models Linda?
Ray
Rayblewit
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Linda,
You were asking about voices . .
This may give you a clue.
You were asking about voices . .
This may give you a clue.
Rayblewit
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By some strange coincidence this vid appeared on my youtube search engine page . . It's predictable and scary.
I thought of you Linda.
Cheers Ray
I thought of you Linda.
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I hope you have a lot of fun exploring and learning its many features! It’s definitely a lot of keyboard— and, unlike the PSR-E model you had, it can be upgraded by installing Voice & Style Expansion packs. I think there should be a number of packs which Yamaha has made available for free, so you might want to see what your options are. I’m not sure what the limit is on how much you can install, but there is a limit, so you’ll want to pick and choose rather than just installing everything out there. 
Rayblewit
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Well done Linda. Congrats.
Enjoy the learning.
Looking forward to a report on your progress in due course.☺
Ray
Enjoy the learning.
Looking forward to a report on your progress in due course.☺
Ray
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Yes great sounds! Definitely a professional instrument. Already covered the expenses performing last night.
Linda