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I originally posted in the piano forums, but they recommended I post here since you guys are more into the 'arranging' side of things.
My dilemma is that I am seeking something that I think doesn't exist in the marketplace right now for some reason. After many MANY (wayyy too many) hours of research, reading and watching video reviews, I have yet to come across a digital piano that fulfills my wants, which are (in approximate order of importance):
Good for daily piano practice and learning
Above average action (for the above)
Above average piano sounds, at least
88 keys
Above average speaker system (PREFER a console, but I am also looking at stage pianos with their cabinets)
All of the above things are easy to find...in fact I can name about 5 models off the top of my head that I would buy tomorrow, if it werent' for this next item, which is the rub:
Above average arranger (by 'above average' I am referring to something that has backup accomp that sounds realistic instead of so many out there that are the cheesiest of the cheese, not just in quality of the backing instrument sounds, but also in the rhythm and accomp. style).
It seems that there is no market or interest in having both the first set listed above, coupled with that nice arranger.
I have played around on a Yamaha DG670 some, and the sounds are very good on that, and I would say the accomp is well above average. The problem with that model is that first set of 'wants' - mostly the action and the speakers (not sure if the default piano sounds on that are the same high quality as on their higher models or not, but if not, that is also an issue)
If money were no object, I would probably go buy one of the higher end Clavinova's tomorrow, as a few of those models satisfy all the above (and maybe some high end console models from other manufacturers, not sure), but $2500 is probably my max, and preferably less.
Considered/considering:
Yamaha: DGX670, maybe CLP-735, CSP-150, 515, maybe CVP 701?
Casio: PX-560. This one is VERY interesting but I have not heard or played it in person. Wary about the potential cheesiness of the accompaniament, but sold on the very cool arranger AND synth (lite) functionality. I think this model probably represents the most 'jack-of-all-trades' DP out there, for a reasonable price. But it's SO old! Also worried about crap action on this one (relative to others I am looking at in my budget)
Kawai: ES 920, CN39
Roland: FP-90X, not sure which current console model would be the equivalent of a Clavinova here
Strongly considering:
"settling" for the DG670, because I DO like to play around with arranger, synth type sound creation, and just general goofing off. I have owned a couple of similar models in the past, and recorded some songs using sequencers and Cakewalk (solely for fun, and personal use).
Kawai ES920 sounds like it's the direct competitor to the Yamaha 670 (although considerably more expensive), and from what I can tell, probably has a better core piano sound, AND better action, two very important things for me. Speakers are also much much better apparently (certainly more powerful).
And finally, the Casio 560. This one really only worries me because it's so damn old that I think the other more current models will have surpassed it in terms of connections, sound quality, and maybe even quality of the arranger features (might sound out of date if you know what I mean, like my 25 year old Roland DP'ss accompaniaments).
ANY thoughts appreciated and welcome!
My dilemma is that I am seeking something that I think doesn't exist in the marketplace right now for some reason. After many MANY (wayyy too many) hours of research, reading and watching video reviews, I have yet to come across a digital piano that fulfills my wants, which are (in approximate order of importance):
Good for daily piano practice and learning
Above average action (for the above)
Above average piano sounds, at least
88 keys
Above average speaker system (PREFER a console, but I am also looking at stage pianos with their cabinets)
All of the above things are easy to find...in fact I can name about 5 models off the top of my head that I would buy tomorrow, if it werent' for this next item, which is the rub:
Above average arranger (by 'above average' I am referring to something that has backup accomp that sounds realistic instead of so many out there that are the cheesiest of the cheese, not just in quality of the backing instrument sounds, but also in the rhythm and accomp. style).
It seems that there is no market or interest in having both the first set listed above, coupled with that nice arranger.
I have played around on a Yamaha DG670 some, and the sounds are very good on that, and I would say the accomp is well above average. The problem with that model is that first set of 'wants' - mostly the action and the speakers (not sure if the default piano sounds on that are the same high quality as on their higher models or not, but if not, that is also an issue)
If money were no object, I would probably go buy one of the higher end Clavinova's tomorrow, as a few of those models satisfy all the above (and maybe some high end console models from other manufacturers, not sure), but $2500 is probably my max, and preferably less.
Considered/considering:
Yamaha: DGX670, maybe CLP-735, CSP-150, 515, maybe CVP 701?
Casio: PX-560. This one is VERY interesting but I have not heard or played it in person. Wary about the potential cheesiness of the accompaniament, but sold on the very cool arranger AND synth (lite) functionality. I think this model probably represents the most 'jack-of-all-trades' DP out there, for a reasonable price. But it's SO old! Also worried about crap action on this one (relative to others I am looking at in my budget)
Kawai: ES 920, CN39
Roland: FP-90X, not sure which current console model would be the equivalent of a Clavinova here
Strongly considering:
"settling" for the DG670, because I DO like to play around with arranger, synth type sound creation, and just general goofing off. I have owned a couple of similar models in the past, and recorded some songs using sequencers and Cakewalk (solely for fun, and personal use).
Kawai ES920 sounds like it's the direct competitor to the Yamaha 670 (although considerably more expensive), and from what I can tell, probably has a better core piano sound, AND better action, two very important things for me. Speakers are also much much better apparently (certainly more powerful).
And finally, the Casio 560. This one really only worries me because it's so damn old that I think the other more current models will have surpassed it in terms of connections, sound quality, and maybe even quality of the arranger features (might sound out of date if you know what I mean, like my 25 year old Roland DP'ss accompaniaments).
ANY thoughts appreciated and welcome!
